Thanks. The only reason why I mentioned JiveTalk was becausw I know that if settings are correct it could "run in the background" and I wanted people to know that I ruled it out as an issue. It works fine for me and sincerely don't think it is the source of my ills. Again, it only shuts down on me while using the web, whether it be blackberry's browser or Opera Mini. That and the battery drain are the most frustrating. The crappy "_@" thing in my voicemail notification pop up window I can live with until att officially "releases" their OS version, but the shut downs and battery drain I can not.