Love the 8700c. Not much wider than the 7100. Feels really good as a phone. Very fast. Most of them did not have SIMs. I tried one from one the Cingular reps. Tried the phone and the web. WoW the web cooked and the phone sounded really clear to me. I think this will be a winner. Food was great. Excellent sushi, and I drank Blackberry Tini's. I give it a thumbs up. Yes we got vouchers but I think all this talk about plans is rubbish. My firm's rep will be calling me. I have no worries.