i have just run jbenchmark on a bell 7130. although it is not as fast as the 8700 is (a lot of the big-deal of the 8700 is about it's fast new 300 mhz xscale cpu) - the 7130 is definitely the next fastest Blackberry. With JBecnhmark 2.0, the 7130 scores 38. That is 4-5 points higher then the old champ, the 7250. However: I am doing develpment work on the berry and i can tell you that although the 8700 is being heralded as a new class of berry that will make new things possible that old berries can't do - the 7130 is in an 'in between class' of device because you are able to do somethings the others could not . The benchmark doesn't tell the whole story: in my own code test i am getting GREAT results. Remember: jbenchmark runs as a midlet. although Blackberry runs generic java / j2me midlets - it also has it's own optimized java APIs that jbenchmark does not test. That is where i am seeing REALLY good performance - MUCH MUCH better than the 7250 and other Blackberries.