rasmith3530 thanks for your lengthy and detail answer. I can see your point, I used to have also a QTECK and now I moved to 8310. The only thing that I miss in QTECK was the calendar which was more fancy, with colors etc. I tried to use other calendars for the BB but they were heavy. QTECK was very sensitive though, I dropped it once and it broke !!! my 8310 is very resistant and very well build. Somehow my BB has everything I need and no more!!! easy to find and easy to handle. TotalTech I also had problems with WM - it was freezing all the time. The big advantage of WM I think is the variety of programs available everywhere. For example I had an excellent calculator with many fancy functions - I used to have the microsoft office, similar programs in BB use a lot of memory and I had to uninstall them. Thanks again.