I love my 8700. Its the single best converged device I've ever used, and I've had a Treo 600, Treo 650, SMT 5600, PPC Phone Edition, MPX 200, etc. I think RIM understands that a converged device suffers when it tries to replace your phone, pda, video player, picture viewer, digital camera, mp3 player and video camera. IMHO the 8700 is tops for Phone and PIM.