| | Blackberry would not turn on but now it will :)
So I tried the procedure for wiping the device except, it would interupt in the middle saying application loader was unable to connect with your device.
I tried charging it with my Wall Charger, only to find it would not work, what I did find that would charge it was my cigarette lighter charger in my car.
I had the same problem with my 8310 where only my PC or car would charge it.
Then the icon came up saying I need to reload software and
I ran loader.exe /nojvm and it worked great.
Thanks everyone I now have a working Blackberry Bold.