Ok I think I may be going totally mad. I have upgraded to 4.1 in the trial version and for the life of me I cannot get the LCS OTA or interactive installs to work. I have changed all the .asp files to express the directory where located and it just tells me it can't find the page when I follow the link to install the Blackberry Enterprise Messenger. I can live with that, so I follow the directions on how to load it through Device Manager and it tells me there is no software designed for my device. I have moved the .alx and .cod files to the same dir. I was tinkering with the Push OTA install and the apploader reindex just wouldn't find it. Maybe the files in the Trial .zips are corrupted. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.