@DallasFlier, I tend to side with Jibi on his opinion of 4G.

Just do a quick Wiki search and you'll see no HUGE mention that its defined by WiMax ... that press announcement was for stock holders and contracted manufacturers alike. Its the choice Sprint is going with late next year. Still, its interesting that Verizon is ahead with EVDO rev. A while Sprint is just beginning to launch.

Eitherway back on topic.

Thanks Boy Genius; I do remember you beginning the want/need for Camera on a BlackBerry ... I joined in with my own beliefs as I thought it could simply be handled by service books administered by the BES. I was hoping for internal gps (I actually hate the technology; as I'd have NO use for it), as it doesnt add a huge cost to end users data plans.

Speaking of which do you hear any word of Rogers Wireless getting the 8100 & reducing their expensive data plans?!