bfrye, I sent a PM with the link to Guess -- I suggested he put the applciation in our Downloads section. If I remember correctly, you posted links to the RIM JDE and the Java SDK as well -- I don't think we can put THOSE monsters in our Downloads section, but perhaps you could PMGuess those links and he could put them in the description of the application, so that folks could easily access them at the same time they are downloading this app...