OK , I know what most of you might think after reading this but its my experience with the Curve vs. the 8700c. So , after 3 days with the Curve I have to return to the 8700c ! I got an excellent deal on the Curve through Cingular's Premier site ( 58.00 ) shipped but I just can't get used to the Curve's trackball . I'm a trackwheel type man and the fact that I can do all with the trackwheel vs. the trackball and menu deal just isn't appealing to me . overall I must say the Curve is an excellent device and blackberry hit its mark with it. unfortunitely its mark isn't me.