Ppl, if you're not supposed to post things you've heard in a rumour mill then let's stop talking in here period and just wait till the phone has been officially released or announced.

This person I'm talking about works at RIM and like I said saw and played with the CDMA curve. All he told me was that the keypad is aesthetically different than the current curve. That is a fact and not a rumour cause he saw it with his own eyes and not pics. Now he also told me that VZ is releasing it in a week or two, that to me is not fact until it's actually released.