Not sure I follow by updating the thread. It is a known issue, RIM will acknowledge it however they don't have an official patch until 4.1.5MR1, if you are running 4.1.4MR4 (not MR5 ) there is a patch a few of us are using that appears to work. Its "as is" from a tech. at RIM, from what I've gathered it has worked for everyone except a BES server in Australia so it could be US localized but I can't confirm that. Send WillFulmer or myself a PM and I'm sure we can send you that patch if you'd like to try it. Again its "as is", personally I tested on a seperate BES test server first.