i want to find out whats going on because if u just select the first option when turning it off you dont get battery discharge but the bb turns on when a calendar item or alarm goes off. that's why i want to us full power off. the problem is sometimes i dont have my charger and if i select full power off the bb discharges. it drives me nuts. when i spoke to tech support they told me that its not supposed to happen. the first bb i had did it and i thought it was because i had used a cheap car charger on it. however with my new bb i have never used the cheap charger and it still happens. it really drives me nuts.