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no data plan -
12-07-2007, 06:56 AM
Hi,
I dont have data plan, just use GPRS with Opera Mini. Can someone post the jad or jar file for the Gmail 1.5 for BB so i can turn it into alx and cod and upload it via upload manager?
Thanks and I greatly appreciate it
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Google 1.5.1 -
12-07-2007, 07:27 AM
Looks like the just released 1.5.1. Hopefully they have fixed the problems many of us are having. Downloading now...
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12-07-2007, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by makedonce
Hi,
I dont have data plan, just use GPRS with Opera Mini. Can someone post the jad or jar file for the Gmail 1.5 for BB so i can turn it into alx and cod and upload it via upload manager?
Thanks and I greatly appreciate it
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The .jad file is here:
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm-BlackBerry-42.jad
Hint for non-BIS users:
You can use the User Agent Switcher plugin ( http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/59) for the Firefox browser and set up a new User Agent "BlackBerry8700/4.2.1" (replace 8700 with your BB model and 4.2.1 with your OS version if needed) to download practically ANY OTA installer in order to make your own ALX installer. Just switch to this fake BB user agent and open the OTA link, e.g. Gmail, so the web page will believe that your computer is a BlackBerry and happily deliver the .jad file.
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i need the jar now.. -
12-07-2007, 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sheepBB
The .jad file is here:
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm-BlackBerry-42.jad
Hint for non-BIS users:
You can use the User Agent Switcher plugin ( http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/59) for the Firefox browser and set up a new User Agent "BlackBerry8700/4.2.1" (replace 8700 with your BB model and 4.2.1 with your OS version if needed) to download practically ANY OTA installer in order to make your own ALX installer. Just switch to this fake BB user agent and open the OTA link, e.g. Gmail, so the web page will believe that your computer is a BlackBerry and happily deliver the .jad file.
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Thanks for the Jad file, but in order to make alx and cod i also need the jar file? do u have any suggestions how to create jar from jad?
Thanks
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12-07-2007, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by makedonce
Thanks for the Jad file, but in order to make alx and cod i also need the jar file? do u have any suggestions how to create jar from jad?
Thanks
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The jar file is linked to in the jad, but you do NOT need it. Simply grab the cod files listed in the jad and create the alx, that's everything you need.
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now you confused me -
12-07-2007, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sheepBB
The jar file is linked to in the jad, but you do NOT need it. Simply grab the cod files listed in the jad and create the alx, that's everything you need.
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Now you confused me. Which app do i use to open the open the jad and get the cod? I know how to write the alx.. but how do i get the cod?
Thanks a bunch
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12-07-2007, 10:05 AM
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Now you confused me. Which app do i use to open the open the jad and get the cod? I know how to write the alx.. but how do i get the cod?
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You can open the .jad file (OTA installer) you have downloaded with any text editor. In there, you will find the names of the .cod files as follows (Gmail app; in this case there are 3 files):
RIM-COD-URL-0: gm_42_L1.cod
RIM-COD-Size-0: 95264
RIM-COD-URL-1: gm_42_L1-1.cod
RIM-COD-Size-1: 91736
RIM-COD-URL-2: gm_42_L1-2.cod
RIM-COD-Size-2: 63556
To find out the actual URLs of those files you can use the URL of the .jad file which is:
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm-BlackBerry-42.jad
The .cod files are in the same path, so the URLs are:
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm_42_L1.cod
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm_42_L1-1.cod
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm_42_L1-2.cod
Download these files to a folder and you are ready to go. The ALX I created looks like this (to be saved in the same folder as the .cod files):
Code:
<loader version="1.0">
<application id="Gmail">
<name>Google Mail</name>
<description>mobile gmail app</description>
<version>1.5.1</version>
<vendor>Google</vendor>
<copyright>Copyright (c) 2007 Google</copyright>
<fileset Java="1.0">
<files>
gm_42_L1-2.cod
gm_42_L1-1.cod
gm_42_L1.cod
</files>
</fileset>
</application>
</loader>
I hope this helps  .
P.S.: Having no BIS / BES myself, I installed Gmail (among a whole bunch of other OTA-only applications) in the way described here, so I can tell for sure this will work if done correctly. I don't post the actual installer package here because I feel Google would not be happy about it.
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thanks -
12-07-2007, 10:26 AM
I will try to install it as you suggested and let you know if it worked.
I'll also try the same with other apps.
Thanks
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12-07-2007, 10:58 AM
It works. Thanks for the 411...
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12-07-2007, 11:21 AM
Has anyone come up with a solution to the LED blinking problem? Mine works except for that.
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12-07-2007, 11:31 AM
I read on another board, that you have to disable the LED indicator for the GMail application. It has it's own profile, so it won't disrupt any of the other indicators.
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12-07-2007, 12:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sheepBB
Hint for non-BIS users:
You can use the User Agent Switcher plugin ( http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/59) for the Firefox browser and set up a new User Agent "BlackBerry8700/4.2.1" (replace 8700 with your BB model and 4.2.1 with your OS version if needed) to download practically ANY OTA installer in order to make your own ALX installer. Just switch to this fake BB user agent and open the OTA link, e.g. Gmail, so the web page will believe that your computer is a BlackBerry and happily deliver the .jad file.
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(for the masses)
I wrote a nice (well, nice in my opinion  ) blog post on how to put this all together for folks, it's exactly what I used to get all those URLs I posted previously.
nokia symbian user agents & phone masquerading « rivviepop phantom
Ignore the whole Nokia aspect of it, I was using a S60 device when it was written - it works the same for anything you're doing, not just Nokia.
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12-07-2007, 12:22 PM
BTW one feature that's so small but makes a huge difference in 1.5.1 -- they added spacebar scrolling down in an email! That was the most frustrating thing about 1.1.0, it made scrolling through large stuff a real pain.
The Del key still doesn't delete an email yet and there's no way to label an email/conversation before Archiving it, though. *sigh* The new Contacts feature is pretty neat but lags a bit, kinda unusable.
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12-08-2007, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AnthroMatt
Just tried removing it, pulling battery, installing again, pulling battery, then running the app, and it still doesn't work. Is there any way to get the old one back????
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this happened to me when I installed the new google talk. re-register.
Go to:
Options
Advanced
Host Routing Table
Click the scroll wheel and choose "Register Now"
Google talk worked after that.
Give it a try.
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Hyperlinks? -
12-08-2007, 07:28 PM
I have the new GMail app and it's working. My only (and big) complain is that it does NOT show/highlight hyperlinks. why not? That really sucks! Is there a way to fix this? It clearly highlights the obvious web addresses within an email ( www.______.com) but how do I get it to highlight links such as "for more info click here" that have the web address embedded into the "click here". I get a lot of emails that have this. If it can't be done, that's a deal-breaker for me!
Thanks for any help you can offer.
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12-08-2007, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ISMPlus
If it can't be done, that's a deal-breaker for me! 
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I don't think there's anything we can do, I face the same problem - when I get spam-like newsletters and want to use the Unsubscribe link that's inevitably at the end it's not hyperlinked. I go back to the usual Messages applet where I can click the link to get the job done then... *shrug* (hey it works  )
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12-08-2007, 08:17 PM
does anyone know how much data this uses to send and receive messages?
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12-09-2007, 09:20 PM
I had been using the Gmail applet for a while and then I realized that accessing Gmail with the BB Browser is actually a pretty pleasant experience. 
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12-10-2007, 08:22 AM
It's a bit annoying to enter user and password everytime I reset the bb with v1.5.1
Best,
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12-10-2007, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Spamdumpster
Can someone please explain to me why you'd use this instead of BIS?
I don't buy the keep emails separate thing. What else is there?
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This application is also useful for people who don't want to subscribe to a BlackBerry plan, or who use a carrier that does not support BlackBerry (another country, for example).
BlackBerry can work without a BlackBerry plan -- and use generic Internet data instead (like Nokia, etc). GMAIL Mobile works great on this. See the Networking forum for the FAQ on using a BlackBerry on a non-BlackBerry plan.
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12-10-2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaime
It's a bit annoying to enter user and password everytime I reset the bb with v1.5.1
Best,
Jaime
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Try quitting and restarting GMAIL (via menu, not via Back button which just minimizes it), this forces it to save the settings. I think it's just a bug at the moment.
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12-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rivviepop
BTW one feature that's so small but makes a huge difference in 1.5.1 -- they added spacebar scrolling down in an email! That was the most frustrating thing about 1.1.0, it made scrolling through large stuff a real pain.
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Hitting "T" and "B" works -- going to the top and bottom of a large conversation is nice.
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12-10-2007, 09:45 PM
Do you need a BIS, to use the push IMAP service?
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12-11-2007, 09:32 AM
Those of you using the new version... are you exporting your contacts to Outlook (or something similar) and syncing with your device? I really like that Gmail added contacts to this version... but without the work of adding them to your address book, is it even worth it? I like to know who is calling me and not have to guess all the time.
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12-11-2007, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by smallville20
Those of you using the new version... are you exporting your contacts to Outlook (or something similar) and syncing with your device? I really like that Gmail added contacts to this version... but without the work of adding them to your address book, is it even worth it? I like to know who is calling me and not have to guess all the time.
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It's as ugly as you think, I do double bookkeeping with my Contacts. The GMail really only is email (not phone/address/etc.), so every new address I get I save it in two places to cover all the bases for use. Once I did the initial grunt work of getting it all set up, keeping up with it is actually pretty simple.... but it would be nice to get them combined. 
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12-14-2007, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sheepBB
You can open the .jad file (OTA installer) you have downloaded with any text editor. In there, you will find the names of the .cod files as follows (Gmail app; in this case there are 3 files):
RIM-COD-URL-0: gm_42_L1.cod
RIM-COD-Size-0: 95264
RIM-COD-URL-1: gm_42_L1-1.cod
RIM-COD-Size-1: 91736
RIM-COD-URL-2: gm_42_L1-2.cod
RIM-COD-Size-2: 63556
To find out the actual URLs of those files you can use the URL of the .jad file which is:
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm-BlackBerry-42.jad
The .cod files are in the same path, so the URLs are:
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm_42_L1.cod
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm_42_L1-1.cod
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.5.1/L1/gm_42_L1-2.cod
Download these files to a folder and you are ready to go. The ALX I created looks like this (to be saved in the same folder as the .cod files):
Code:
<loader version="1.0">
<application id="Gmail">
<name>Google Mail</name>
<description>mobile gmail app</description>
<version>1.5.1</version>
<vendor>Google</vendor>
<copyright>Copyright (c) 2007 Google</copyright>
<fileset Java="1.0">
<files>
gm_42_L1-2.cod
gm_42_L1-1.cod
gm_42_L1.cod
</files>
</fileset>
</application>
</loader>
I hope this helps  .
P.S.: Having no BIS / BES myself, I installed Gmail (among a whole bunch of other OTA-only applications) in the way described here, so I can tell for sure this will work if done correctly. I don't post the actual installer package here because I feel Google would not be happy about it.
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Hi I just got my first blackberry (8700g) and here in finland we an get blackberry plans so im very interested in using the gmail program on my blackberry. Is there any easier way to get it onto the device as im not so good with computers and just cant understand your instructions.
thanks for any advice!!
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12-15-2007, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by krash106
Hi I just got my first blackberry (8700g) and here in finland we an get blackberry plans so im very interested in using the gmail program on my blackberry. Is there any easier way to get it onto the device as im not so good with computers and just cant understand your instructions.
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12-27-2007, 05:11 PM
finally decided to try out the newest gmail mobile app since it supports alerts now... a couple minutes into playing with it, i had already experienced 3 errors so i deleted it.... the main issue seemed to happen when composing a new email... as soon as i start typing an address, it crashes with the attached exception... i'm guessing that it has something to do with automatically trying to display matches from my contacts list... i tried this 3 times and it crashed 2 of those times.
i also received another exception (2nd attachment below) when trying to send the email once i composed it.
i'll probably give it another shot when they release the next version, as some of the features seemed pretty nice to have, especially the conversation grouping that makes gmail so much nicer than any other web based email system.
Rob
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is there a way to bypass enterprise policy? -
12-28-2007, 04:15 PM
I think our corporate network is blocking the download. I had it installed before but after enterprise activation it didn't work anymore so i deleted the application. Anyway, does anybody knows a way to bypass corporate policy so i can get gmail app to work on my BB?
Oh and by the way, through the BB browser i can access gmail at gmail.com and check my personnal emails, but not as fast and easy as with gmail app.
Thanks
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Thanks Mark -
01-01-2008, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Rejhon
Try quitting and restarting GMAIL (via menu, not via Back button which just minimizes it), this forces it to save the settings. I think it's just a bug at the moment.
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Nice find. This was driving me crazy, as I reset 1X a day, and it was a pain to sign in again.....
Thanks!!
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01-07-2008, 02:42 PM
I have a 8100 with no BIS/BES plan so the method of using the firefox user agent tool is great. However, after installing gmail 1.5.1, I noticed that every time I used the application loader, it says that gmail needs to be updated because the second and third cod files (-1 and -2) are not installed. Only the first cod file (with no dash) was installed. My alx has the other two cod files listed and on the bb in the application list, I can see the cod files listed under library.
Is this normal? Or could this be causing my gmail to be stuck at "0kb loading" when trying to show my inbox?
Maybe sheepbb can shed some light on the matter?
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01-08-2008, 03:23 AM
cant save attachments. theres no option to save a pic. it just says "Back"
also i dont get an alert for new mail after setting things up in Profiles. i have to refresh the page to get new mail. am i supposed to set things up in email wizard again?
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01-13-2008, 06:18 PM
I have BIS where my gmail pushed, Why would I want to use this program?
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01-13-2008, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hotburnttoast
I have BIS where my gmail pushed, Why would I want to use this program?
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As do I.. But I still have this app just in case I do need to get access to old emails not stored on my BlackBerry device.
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01-14-2008, 12:28 PM
Nevermind...
Blackberry 8120: 09 - Present
Blackberry 8100: 06 - 09
Blackberry 7100: 02 - 06
Motorola TimePort: 98 - 02
Motorola Microtac: 92 - 98
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01-16-2008, 02:22 PM
for anyone using this application. I have the gmail application setup on my phone, will it automatically go out and pick up new messages that come in and notify me via flashing light + vibe just like a text message? How long does it take to fish it from the web?
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01-17-2008, 09:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeycuccaro
for anyone using this application. I have the gmail application setup on my phone, will it automatically go out and pick up new messages that come in and notify me via flashing light + vibe just like a text message? How long does it take to fish it from the web?
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yes it will... but the application has to be running in the background. from my experience, when i reset my phone, the gmail app does not start up automatically. once it's running in the background, it will alert you whenever you receive new messages. It's not immediate like having gmail set up like a POP account in BIS, but it doesn't lag too bad.
btw - I only keep this app on my device for searching old emails. I read and reply to my gmail messages through the built-in messages app (+ Empower).
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01-17-2008, 09:26 AM
thanks man it does refresh it just lags a bit. Only complaint i have is the LED flashes for like 10 min even though i have opened my new messages. Had to take the notification off until google fixes this little bug
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01-17-2008, 11:58 AM
I am using this app now for a second gmail address that is just for online stuff, nothing important really, but I noticed that it does not check email and notify of a new one by itself. I have it running in background and set to notify of new mail, but it doesn't do this. I have to open the app and hit refresh.... kinda pointless.
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01-17-2008, 02:03 PM
I am on BES with no BBbrowser, only Opera 4. Using this guide I now have the Gmail app running (thanks very much).
Can this same method be used for Google Maps?
I grabbed the .jad and .jar files using the user agent extension in Firefox but I cannot create the .alx file because the .jad does not point to any .cod files.
I am pretty new to the BB experience so I hope that make sense.
Any ideas how to make this work?
Thanks!
I just found the .alx file on google. Also found a couple of BES packages but I cannot install. When I click on the .alx from the DM I get an error saying "no additional applications for your device were found".
Any ideas how to make this work?
Last edited by hatkins : 01-17-2008 at 02:25 PM.
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