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MiniMoni - Traffic/Data monitor - Beta testers welcome -
12-14-2007, 03:13 PM
Hi all,
Update to version 0.41.3:
- The user is now able to configure the date, the billing occurs, this way defining at which day of the month the period's counter is reset. Please have a look on my website (below) for the detailed rules of calculation.
- The current period start and end date is shown in the logbook screen.
- A second logbook screen is added to show the summary of the last periods - reachable from the menu in the daily logbook screen.
- A purge logbook function is available in the logbook screen's menu. The user may choose how many days to keep (30, 60, 90) and if the period's logbook should be purged as well. At the end of the purging function a small summary shows how many records were deleted.
- Changes to the building of the main screen. This should avoid the problems reported on different devices having some small arrows at the button without being able to really scroll.
- The application pops to foreground now, if the limit is reached.
- The logbooks are displayed in reverse order now, the most recent entries on top.
- Plus a lot of small things in the code, which I forgot to write down and that's why are not mentioned here.
So from my point of view the basic functionality, I planned to implement originally and what was added here on the forum is implemented now. Things which were mentioned here in the posts not implemented yet are still on my to do list but will take little time. Except the autostart feature what will be my next challenge and comes soon.
I had a look on the capture proposal - I think it will a little overload our small devices - may be it's a subject of a different project.
Please, if you feel there are needs forgotten by me, post them here and I'll see what I can do.
From the experience of the last update for the people using the OTA: It may take time until you are able to download the now version. But it is already there! Try it again later. The last time it took more then 2 hours for to be able to see the new version.
Please see MiniMoni - Traffic monitor for BlackBerry for a more detailed description of the new functions.
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It was asked several times in the forum and I took the opportunity to practise Java programming for the BB. So here is what the application is about :
- Logs the amount of traffic
- Writes daily data usage in a kind of logbook
- Every logbook entry can have a remark
- Cumulate the amount of traffic over the month
- Opportunity to set an alert on exceeding a predefined limit
- Several configuration options
- Scrolling graph showing the last minute's traffic
- For devices with SD - ability to write the content of the logbook to the SD
- Separate "Traffic watch" to observe the traffic for a limited period of time separately (Testing of an application etc.)
Please take into account: This is a beta version! Read the website carefully before using it! Please be aware that your provider might do some rounding, so the traffic you have to pay for might be 10%-20% more then we measure on the device.
Website with some screen shoots and explanation
MiniMoni - Traffic monitor for BlackBerry
Download (for DM)
http://www.ehnert.net/MiniMoni/MiniMoni.zip
Download (for OTA)
http://www.ehnert.net/MiniMoni/MiniMoni.jad
Please let me know any problems/suggestions.
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Last edited by AxelE : 12-29-2007 at 11:28 AM.
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12-14-2007, 03:19 PM
Wow, thanks. Some folks in Canada are gonna love you.
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12-14-2007, 03:31 PM
Thanks!!!
Installed and deployed to 1/2 dozen people through the BES.
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12-14-2007, 03:37 PM
Wow, a lot of testers 
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12-14-2007, 04:36 PM
I installed but not sure how I can test since I am using BIS 
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12-14-2007, 04:39 PM
Just let it run a couple of days in the background and you'll see the logbook filling. It doesn't matter that you are on BIS.
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I installed but not sure how I can test since I am using BIS 
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12-14-2007, 04:47 PM
As I recall from the other thread, some users had asked for some app to measure either of curiosity or need, to see the data usage on the BB.
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12-14-2007, 06:08 PM
sweet! I have no real need to monitor my data usage but I love me some geeky tools that...well, let me be nerdy.
Here's a JAD file for those (like me) who need OTA installs:
MiniMoni.jad
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MIDlet-Name: Mini Monitor Application
MIDlet-Vendor: LexaSoft
MIDlet-Version: 0.26.3
MIDlet-Description: Small monitoring application for traffic parameters
MIDlet-Jar-Size: 0
RIM-COD-URL-1: MiniMoni.cod
RIM-COD-Size-1: 48404
RIM-COD-Module-Dependencies: net_rim_cldc,net_rim_os
MicroEdition-Configuration: CLDC-1.1
MicroEdition-Profile: MIDP-2.0
Manifest-Version: 1.0
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12-14-2007, 06:10 PM
You da man, Rivvie, thanks for the OTA!
and, of course, you too, Axel!
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12-14-2007, 06:17 PM
Axel, a suggestion: for screens *other* than the main screen, switch to using the user's Theme fonts. The amount of info on the main screen makes sense you need to control the font, but the Prefs, About, Traffic Watch and so forth should degrade back to my theme font so that it feels like part of my BB, smooth look-n-feel integration.
(right now it's all squishimified down to your hardcoded font, I use the T-Mobile ZEN default 'BBMillibank Tall 8' font for my device and really like it)
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12-14-2007, 06:21 PM
BTW, really really nice "first" programming effort on the BB. If this is your Hello World I can't wait to see what's coming next. 
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12-14-2007, 06:37 PM
Respekt - Vorab schonmal ein großes Lob an Dich, Axel!
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12-14-2007, 09:57 PM
AWESOME APP!!!!! you rock! sooooo happy now... lol
i love it but one thing i would love to see in a futur version (if you decided to of course) is being ablek to change the date that the month resets at, as i'm sure alot of people have different billing cycles for when there data plan restarts... other then that its awesome... loving it so far!
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12-14-2007, 11:19 PM
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As I recall from the other thread, some users had asked for some app to measure either of curiosity or need, to see the data usage on the BB.
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12-15-2007, 06:35 AM
Hi all,
thanks to all for testing and giving feedback.
@mrking: Happy to be your Santa Claus
@Cory Scheuer: I expected this request  . Though I have shortly to think about it, what is the best way to implement this.
@rivviepop: This IS my Hello world application  . I'll think about an option in preferences to let the user decide if to use the application's fonts or system's fonts. I'll not do this for the main and logbook screen, though. Because for both screens you will not be happy with this  . And thanks a lot for the OTA.
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12-15-2007, 03:12 PM
After using it for a couple days, I would like to see an option to display the data as more than just bytes. It would be great to display it in kilobytes as well. megabytes too, but can be limiting.
Sometimes I just go cross-eyed counting the digits. 
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12-15-2007, 03:16 PM
I'll add an option later on to show the amount as kB or MB...
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12-15-2007, 04:36 PM
You may try to download the new version (0.30.0) with the opportunity to select "Show kB" in the preferences. So you might relax your eyes  The max/s is shown in bytes, though, all the time. Using GPRS as me, it makes more sense.
http://www.ehnert.net/MiniMoni/MiniMoni.zip
There is second option added for the fonts to use, which still has no real function
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After using it for a couple days, I would like to see an option to display the data as more than just bytes. It would be great to display it in kilobytes as well. megabytes too, but can be limiting.
Sometimes I just go cross-eyed counting the digits. 
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12-15-2007, 04:42 PM
Axel, is there a remote chance it doesn't see Wifi traffic based on the APIs used? I haven't had a lot of time to debug, but I could swear it doesn't see my Wifi like it does my EDGE usage. I'll have to be more methodical and debug better, but that's what it felt like (maybe I was smoking crack at the time). Hrmm.
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12-15-2007, 04:56 PM
Difficult for me to say ... As I'm using a device without Wifi and for that have a JDE 4.2 installed no information is there about Wifi traffic. But I'll have a look on the 4.3 JDE later on, though, it would mean to maintain two different versions - what I honestly would not like to ...  But I agree, if the Wifi is included the measurement stops to make sense.
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Axel, is there a remote chance it doesn't see Wifi traffic based on the APIs used? I haven't had a lot of time to debug, but I could swear it doesn't see my Wifi like it does my EDGE usage. I'll have to be more methodical and debug better, but that's what it felt like (maybe I was smoking crack at the time). Hrmm.
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12-15-2007, 05:23 PM
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You may try to download the new version (0.30.0) with the opportunity to select "Show kB" in the preferences. So you might relax your eyes  The max/s is shown in bytes, though, all the time. Using GPRS as me, it makes more sense.
http://www.ehnert.net/MiniMoni/MiniMoni.zip
There is second option added for the fonts to use, which still has no real function 
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When i download it is still version 0.26.3
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12-15-2007, 05:27 PM
Mike, just tried it myself and got the new one. Probably cleaning the cache of your browser?
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12-15-2007, 05:30 PM
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Mike, just tried it myself and got the new one. Probably cleaning the cache of your browser?
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Very nice. Thank you.
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12-15-2007, 05:36 PM
Mike, fine. I recomment to close the program before installing the new version. Otherwise the BB will boot.
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12-16-2007, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rivviepop
sweet! I have no real need to monitor my data usage but I love me some geeky tools that...well, let me be nerdy.
Here's a JAD file for those (like me) who need OTA installs:
MiniMoni.jad
Code:
MIDlet-Name: Mini Monitor Application
MIDlet-Vendor: LexaSoft
MIDlet-Version: 0.26.3
MIDlet-Description: Small monitoring application for traffic parameters
MIDlet-Jar-Size: 0
RIM-COD-URL-1: MiniMoni.cod
RIM-COD-Size-1: 48404
RIM-COD-Module-Dependencies: net_rim_cldc,net_rim_os
MicroEdition-Configuration: CLDC-1.1
MicroEdition-Profile: MIDP-2.0
Manifest-Version: 1.0
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What am I missing, I need it OTA as well, how do I install as I see no link? Thanks.
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12-16-2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AxelE
Difficult for me to say ... As I'm using a device without Wifi and for that have a JDE 4.2 installed no information is there about Wifi traffic. But I'll have a look on the 4.3 JDE later on, though, it would mean to maintain two different versions - what I honestly would not like to ...  But I agree, if the Wifi is included the measurement stops to make sense.
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I was a bit more scientific about it and indeed, Wifi traffic is not being counted. I used the Traffic Watch feature and recorded an EDGE session of data to the BlackBerry homepage, but the same steps with Wifi enabled (either mode, T-Mobile proxy or Direct) resulted in 0 bytes recorded (cache cleared between tests, of course). This is confirmed by the graphic displaying graph lines for EDGE and no display of anything during Wifi.
Maybe there's a different network API hook you can use in SDK 4.2? The BB 8820 is an "older" device with Wifi which I would assume is SDK 4.2 in nature, but not being a BB coder I am just guessing here...
Last edited by rivviepop : 12-16-2007 at 03:06 PM.
Reason: fix bad quote
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12-16-2007, 03:09 PM
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What am I missing, I need it OTA as well, how do I install as I see no link? Thanks.
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You must host the OTA files yourself until Axel decides he wishes to host it. You can read more at a blog entry of mine (it's also somewhere here on BBF if you search):
configuring apache for mobile browsing « rivviepop phantom
Here's a new JAD for 0.30.0
MiniMoni.jad
Code:
MIDlet-Name: Mini Monitor Application
MIDlet-Vendor: LexaSoft
MIDlet-Version: 0.30.0
MIDlet-Description: Small monitoring application for traffic parameters
MIDlet-Jar-Size: 0
RIM-COD-URL-1: MiniMoni.cod
RIM-COD-Size-1: 49488
RIM-COD-Module-Dependencies: net_rim_cldc,net_rim_os
MicroEdition-Configuration: CLDC-1.1
MicroEdition-Profile: MIDP-2.0
Manifest-Version: 1.0
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12-16-2007, 03:17 PM
That are really good news.
So obviously the traffic watch was the first time of real use
I had a look in the 4.3 API yesterday evening end did not find any changes to the part of the API I use. The same for the different 4.2 versions.
Currently working on the font, what is time consuming as I have to take into account everywhere in the code. Secondly I try to find a solution to handle the "billing period problem" ...
Regards AxelE
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I was a bit more scientific about it and indeed, Wifi traffic is not being counted. I used the Traffic Watch feature and recorded an EDGE session of data to the BlackBerry homepage, but the same steps with Wifi enabled (either mode, T-Mobile proxy or Direct) resulted in 0 bytes recorded (cache cleared between tests, of course). This is confirmed by the graphic displaying graph lines for EDGE and no display of anything during Wifi.
Maybe there's a different network API hook you can use in SDK 4.2? The BB 8820 is an "older" device with Wifi which I would assume is SDK 4.2 in nature, but not being a BB coder I am just guessing here...
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12-16-2007, 04:04 PM
rivviepop
seems we wrote in parallel
For the OTA I already made a test and had a problem afterwards with my BB that causes me to delete all application data. But it might have been a problem with my JAD file.
I can use your JAD and put it together with the COD on the webserver.
Will do this in the upcoming days
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12-16-2007, 04:30 PM
Hi all,
for everybody who might need an OTA:
http://www.ehnert.net/MiniMoni/MiniMoni.jad
I've not tested that. Please let me know if it works.
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12-16-2007, 04:33 PM
Just loaded this. Nice app! It seems to me that WiFi data would be nice to have but as a separate logging. I'd want to be able to keep track of the billable data vs. the free data.
A Kudos goes out to AxelE for this app. As was stated above, the Rogers folks will be very happy with you! It'll be nice for travelling overseas, as well.
Well done! Nice UI, as well.
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12-16-2007, 04:41 PM
Hi John,
Thanks for the kudos  Glad to receive so much acknowledgement for my "Hello world" application
For the WLAN... Right now I haven't found an API access to this information. Moreover: I have no opportunity to test it as I'm using a device without it... But I've put it beside on my to do list other proposals
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Just loaded this. Nice app! It seems to me that WiFi data would be nice to have but as a separate logging. I'd want to be able to keep track of the billable data vs. the free data.
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12-16-2007, 04:46 PM
I tried the OTA link and it brings me to the download page ok. I already had it loaded so I didn't download again. Looks good, though.
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12-16-2007, 04:55 PM
I posted the OTA link in your first post....Hope that's ok.
Also, I just rebooted and the device counter reset to 0. Is there a way to keep continuity with this?
I really don't need to keep track of my data but this app is intriguing to me. I like it.
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12-16-2007, 05:00 PM
The daily and monthly totals are saved every hour in the flash. As well as the current counter status from the API. If the device is booted the totals are still there and will be used for further calculations. As the API counters are reset to 0 on boot the traffic cumulated between the last writing of the data and the moment of boot is lost. This could be avoided by two measures: Writing more often (there is a menu point "Update now", which could be used to trigger the writing), or closing the application before reboot. Because on close of the application the data is written to the flash in any case.
Hope I expressed myself understandable ...
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What happens to the data if the device is rebooted? Is the logging data saved in the app as well as on the SD card? I guess what I'm asking is will there be continuity in the data recorded for the month if the device is rebooted?
Also, I tried the OTA link and it brings me to the download page ok. I already had it loaded so I didn't download again. Looks good, though.
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12-16-2007, 05:04 PM
Excellent! So, the most that would be lost is one hour of data counting if an "update now" or "close" is not performed. Is this written to the SD card or is it written to device memory. My other thought is how much device memory will this app use (for recording, etc.) over the course of a month? BB's have been notorious for losing memory over the course of several days and can usually be attributed to 3rd party apps.
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12-16-2007, 05:05 PM
Thanks for that.
Reseting the counter does'nt really harm as I explained in my previous post. If you take care closing the application right before booting you will loose no information. If not, the most you may loose is the traffic of the last hour.
So, the counter are 0. But the number on top of page should not be 0. Of course only, if between installing the apps and rebooting was a timeframe of more then one hour
BTW: I don't need to keep the track on my data volume either  But for this application seemed to be a real need and so it was a good exercise for my first Java program.
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I posted the OTA link in your first post....Hope that's ok.
Also, I just rebooted and the device counter reset to 0. Is there a way to keep continuity with this?
I really don't need to keep track of my data but this app is intriguing to me. I like it.
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12-16-2007, 05:10 PM
Thanks. That worked great. I did an "update now" and then rebooted. The app showed the same data count on top as before the reboot.
Again, nicely done application. Will be interesting to use it for a month and see just how much data I do use.
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12-16-2007, 05:11 PM
We better should IM...  You are completaly right, the max you can use is one hour.
The information is stored in the device memory. Only if you use the function to write the logbook on SD information will be written on SD. I did not use SD for the all the data as not all devices have SD.
We can estimate to have less then 1 k for preferences and less the 1 k for the counters to be stored. This two parts are not increasing over the time. The only part that might increase is the logbook storing a record of lets say 50 bytes per day. Right now I have no purging established, but the idea is to later on delete all logbook records older then 60 days.
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Excellent! So, the most that would be lost is one hour of data counting if an "update now" or "close" is not performed. Is this written to the SD card or is it written to device memory. My other thought is how much device memory will this app use (for recording, etc.) over the course of a month? BB's have been notorious for losing memory over the course of several days and can usually be attributed to 3rd party apps.
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12-16-2007, 05:12 PM
Fine to see, that it works as designed
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Thanks. That worked great. I did an "update now" and then rebooted. The app showed the same data count on top as before the reboot.
Again, nicely done application. Will be interesting to use it for a month and see just how much data I do use.
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