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Ramsy · 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack55

I have the T-Mobile 8320
It's both WiFi & Edge

I also have a 8320 and getting the same error message ("Sorry, service temporarily unavailable") on both WiFi and EDGE connections. I have reinstalled twice and get the same error every time.

jack55 · 05-15-2008, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsy

I also have a 8320 and getting the same error message on both wi-fi and EDGE connections. I have reinstalled twice and get the same error every time.

So... I'm not the only one with the 8320 that won't work.

talon · 05-15-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jack55

What is ALT + LGLG?

From the home screen, while holding the ALT key, press, 'L', then 'G', then 'L' then 'G'. It brings up the event log (kinda like windows event viewer, but more possibly more cryptic).

Jaime · 05-15-2008, 03:21 PM

Is there any news about BIS-B?

Best,
Jaime

demon_xxi · 05-15-2008, 04:35 PM

Hi everyone.
I'm now busy with several projects on my work.
Most of them BB related so I really do a research on supporting most BB devices and connection configurations. Not of today but quite sure on this weekend I'll release an update of BBTran..

Please be patient, just need to spend some time with my wife this evening ;)

PS: Thanks for your feedback. I'm downloading 8320 T-Mobile simulator now to take some test on it first of all.

demon_xxi · 04:25 AM

Hi All.
I've just released v1.1.
Those who had no problems with connection can upgrade program buy just running. It will prompt for update automatically.
Otherwise use OTA links in header or on BBTran - Universal translator software site.

In this update new screen added with Connection Settings.
You can open it using context menu.
There are BIS/TCP options.
for TCP connections there are also WiFi options: YES/NO/Preferred
Preferred will use wiFi if it is available.

+Some minor bug fixes.

Ramsy · 05-19-2008, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon_xxi

Hi All.
I've just released v1.1.
Those who had no problems with connection can upgrade program buy just running. It will prompt for update automatically.
Otherwise use OTA links in header or on BBTran - Universal translator software site.

In this update new screen added with Connection Settings.
You can open it using context menu.
There are BIS/TCP options.
for TCP connections there are also WiFi options: YES/NO/Preferred
Preferred will use wiFi if it is available.

+Some minor bug fixes.

Unfortunately, on my 8320, I still get the error that says "Sorry, service is temporarily unavailable ...."

I have tried all the transport options and turned WiFi off. Each time, I get the same error.

demon_xxi · 05-19-2008, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsy

Unfortunately, on my 8320, I still get the error that says "Sorry, service is temporarily unavailable ...."

I have tried all the transport options and turned WiFi off. Each time, I get the same error.

Try the following connection settings:
Transport: BIS/BES
WiFi: Off
Custom Options: ConnectionUID=GPMDSNA01

GPMDSNA01 should be th UID of the "IPPP for BIS" Service Book on your device.
if not then use your one
some times also works Custom Options: ConnectionType=mds-public

DNoble · 05-19-2008, 11:33 AM

Is this application only for the Curve device?

demon_xxi · 05-19-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DNoble

Is this application only for the Curve device?

Should work on any device on 4.1 platform and above.
Perl works fine with me.

fkjr2 · 05-19-2008, 11:41 AM

nice thanks for the update!

rivviepop · 05-19-2008, 12:14 PM

Online update went smoothly, all is well here. Thanks for a new version!

Ramsy · 05-19-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon_xxi

Try the following connection settings:
Transport: BIS/BES
WiFi: Off
Custom Options: ConnectionUID=GPMDSNA01

GPMDSNA01 should be th UID of the "IPPP for BIS" Service Book on your device.
if not then use your one
some times also works Custom Options: ConnectionType=mds-public

Unfortunately, neither of those suggestions worked. (Also, GPMDSNA01 is the correct UID of my IPPP for BIS service book.)

demon_xxi · 05-19-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsy

Unfortunately, neither of those suggestions worked. (Also, GPMDSNA01 is the correct UID of my IPPP for BIS service book.)

Ramsy,
the same issue has Jamie now. We are going to do more test and the I'll report for your device support.

Can you give more details on your plan.
do you have APN settings.
do you have data plan or you want to use BIS only?
what is your operator and bb device?

thanks for your feedback.

Ramsy · 05-19-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon_xxi

Ramsy,
the same issue has Jamie now. We are going to do more test and the I'll report for your device support.

Can you give more details on your plan.
do you have APN settings.
do you have data plan or you want to use BIS only?
what is your operator and bb device?

thanks for your feedback.

I have an unlimited data plan with T-Mobile. My BB is connected with a Blackberry Enterprise Server as well as with a Blackberry Desktop Redirector (I have two separate push e-mail accounts.) My APN settings are set to wap.voicestream.com.

demon_xxi · 05-19-2008, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsy

I have an unlimited data plan with T-Mobile. My BB is connected with a Blackberry Enterprise Server as well as with a Blackberry Desktop Redirector (I have two separate push e-mail accounts.) My APN settings are set to wap.voicestream.com.

Did you try to Specify Transport: TCP
Without any custom options.
try to hit Retry 2-3 times.
And also is there any delay before error message or it comes immediately?

Ramsy · 05-19-2008, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon_xxi

Did you try to Specify Transport: TCP
Without any custom options.
try to hit Retry 2-3 times.
And also is there any delay before error message or it comes immediately?

I tried specifying TCP and BIS/BES as the transport type. Using either, there is a delay in getting the error. The delay is longer with TCP then with BIS/BES. Using either TCP or BIS/BES, I see the blue arrows in the upper right hand corner showing data traffic in and out of my Blackberry. With TCP, the error shows up in about 5 secs. With BIS/BES, the error shows up in about 2 seconds.

rivviepop · 05-19-2008, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsy

I tried specifying TCP and BIS/BES as the transport type. Using either, there is a delay in getting the error. The delay is longer with TCP then with BIS/BES. Using either TCP or BIS/BES, I see the blue arrows in the upper right hand corner showing data traffic in and out of my Blackberry. With TCP, the error shows up in about 5 secs. With BIS/BES, the error shows up in about 2 seconds.

heya, did you try setting your ALT + LGLG into debug mode and looking for any log messages that might help clue in on what's wrong? (see my post previous page) It's strange that a number of us with, in theory, the same devices on T-Mobile are having two different sets of results...

rivviepop · 05-19-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon_xxi

Did you try to Specify Transport: TCP
Without any custom options.
try to hit Retry 2-3 times.
And also is there any delay before error message or it comes immediately?

I just had a random thought - what protocol and port is the app reaching out across, is it HTTP/80 or something different?

demon_xxi · 05-19-2008, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivviepop

I just had a random thought - what protocol and port is the app reaching out across, is it HTTP/80 or something different?

just HTTP.
1.1.1 version is almost ready.
* improved connection screen.
* trying to fix some bug on several devices.

should work then

rivviepop · 05-19-2008, 09:24 PM

Quick question before you release - when I updated from 1.0 to 1.1, I had to reboot. I forgot to look real quick, but I *guessed* (just a guess) that was because when I clicked the Update link from BBTran, it didn't quit/exit before I started the new download. But since I didn't look... (I will this next time for 1.1.1)

Does the app exit itself after you click Update and it launches the browser? If not, it should to prevent a device reboot... in my opinion.

demon_xxi · 05-20-2008, 04:46 AM

Wirelessly posted

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivviepop

Quick question before you release - when I updated from 1.0 to 1.1, I had to reboot. I forgot to look real quick, but I *guessed* (just a guess) that was because when I clicked the Update link from BBTran, it didn't quit/exit before I started the new download. But since I didn't look... (I will this next time for 1.1.1)

Does the app exit itself after you click Update and it launches the browser? If not, it should to prevent a device reboot... in my opinion.

I close the BBTran on update. You can even close the browser and seen that BBTran is no more running. But for some reason reboot is required. I'll try ti figure out why.

demon_xxi · 05-20-2008, 10:03 AM

Hi all.
Just released v1.2 with major bug fix.
also refined settings screen.
and now app by default hides but not closes to avoid checks on startup.
(but you can force exit in settings).
+ BIS-B support
+ MDS support
+ Connection Timeout setting

dshipmon · **OS:** 4.6.0.167

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsy

I also have a 8320 and getting the same error message ("Sorry, service temporarily unavailable") on both WiFi and EDGE connections. I have reinstalled twice and get the same error every time.

I got the same message on my 8310. When I had 1.1 it worked fine, but the upgrade to 1.2 shut down. Any suggestions?

rivviepop · 05-20-2008, 11:14 AM

Updated to 1.2, as soon as it started I got a Connection unavailable; the settings were set to 'Default'. Changing that option to 'TCP', exiting and coming back in allowed it to work. I would have expected 'Default' to work, as that setting works in all my other apps (for what it's worth).

Note that I have BIS/BIS-B on my device and data plan, but these are not visible options on the settings screen, nor do I see BES or MDS visible.

Ramsy · 05-20-2008, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon_xxi

Hi all.
Just released v1.2 with major bug fix.
also refined settings screen.
and now app by default hides but not closes to avoid checks on startup.
(but you can force exit in settings).
+ BIS-B support
+ MDS support
+ Connection Timeout setting

I am happy to report that v1.2 is now working on my 8320. Both MDS and TCP transport work for me now. However, when I started v1.2 for the first time, I got the same error - no connection. By switching between MDS and TCP and retrying, it eventually worked on the 2nd or 3rd retry. Now, both MDS and TCP work.

Thanks for your efforts. This program will come in handy.

dshipmon · **OS:** 4.6.0.167

[quote=rivviepop;936919]Updated to 1.2, as soon as it started I got a Connection unavailable; the settings were set to 'Default'. Changing that option to 'TCP', exiting and coming back in allowed it to work. I would have expected 'Default' to work, as that setting works in all my other apps (for what it's worth).

This solved my problem as well. I had to change the Transport in settings to BIS (I did not try TCP to see if it worked as well).

rivviepop · 05-20-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dshipmon

This solved my problem as well. I had to change the Transport in settings to BIS (I did not try TCP to see if it worked as well).

Interesting - I have Default, TCP, and Custom - but no BIS. But I know for a fact I have BIS on my device, other apps are configured and using it just fine. Do you have the add-on BB data plan for $20, or the all-inclusive data/minutes/sms plan? (I have the latter)

dshipmon · 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rivviepop

Interesting - I have Default, TCP, and Custom - but no BIS. But I know for a fact I have BIS on my device, other apps are configured and using it just fine. Do you have the add-on BB data plan for $20, or the all-inclusive data/minutes/sms plan? (I have the latter)

I have the unlimited Blackberry connect for 29.99. (I'm also on the family talk plan with unlimited text) (I have Default, TCP, BIS, and Custom). I'm am AT&T customer.

rivviepop · 05-20-2008, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dshipmon

I have the unlimited Blackberry connect for 29.99. (I'm also on the family talk plan with unlimited text) (I have Default, TCP, BIS, and Custom). I'm am AT&T customer.

Interesting. What's the info on your "IPP for BIBS" service book? (I think this is the one that controls BIS) This is mine on the 8320:

Name: IPP for BIBS
UID: GPMDSNA01
CID: IPP
User ID: -1
OSID: (blank)
Gateway IP: //206.51.26.192:19781;19780/
blackberry.net|GPAK
Description: IPP for BIBS

This is a T-Mobile combined plan: 1000 minutes, unlimited SMS and unlimited data (BIS & TCP). Mine actually says "BIBS" not "BIS" on it, that's not a typo...

dshipmon · **OS:** 4.6.0.167

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivviepop

Interesting. What's the info on your "IPP for BIBS" service book? (I think this is the one that controls BIS) This is mine on the 8320:

Name: IPP for BIBS
UID: GPMDSNA01
CID: IPP
User ID: -1
OSID: (blank)
Gateway IP: //206.51.26.192:19781;19780/
blackberry.net|GPAK
Description: IPP for BIBS

This is a T-Mobile combined plan: 1000 minutes, unlimited SMS and unlimited data (BIS & TCP). Mine actually says "BIBS" not "BIS" on it, that's not a typo...

I don't know what IPP for BIBS is. Where do I find that? I'm not on a BES.

rivviepop · 05-20-2008, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dshipmon

I don't know what IPP for BIBS is. Where do I find that? I'm not on a BES.

On your device, go to Options -> Advanced -> Service Books. Look for one of them that starts with "IPP" (it might say IPP for BIS, not IPP for BIBS) then click on it to view the details.

dshipmon · 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivviepop

On your device, go to Options -> Advanced -> Service Books. Look for one of them that starts with "IPP" (it might say IPP for BIS, not IPP for BIBS) then click on it to view the details.

I don't have one that says IPP for BIS

IPPP FOR BIBS [IPPP]

Record Type: Active
Name: IPPP for BIBS
UID: GPMDSNA01
CID: IPPP
User ID:-1
DSID:
Gateway IP: //206.51.26.192:19791;19790/blackberry.net/GPAK
Description: IPPP for BIBS

I don't know what any of this mean so I don't mess with it.

I also see something that says IPPP for 5 click [IPPP]

demon_xxi · 05-22-2008, 08:00 PM

Hi all.
Sorry for a small break.
Was planning a lot of improvements.
I already added AutoText support for input as well as spell checking ;)
Also thesaurus and pronunciation are in ToDo list next.
So far so good. Will publish soon.

Also you can read a post about BBTran on Blackberry Bold at BBTran - Universal translator software

demon_xxi · 05-22-2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dshipmon

I don't have one that says IPP for BIS

IPPP FOR BIBS [IPPP]

Record Type: Active
Name: IPPP for BIBS
UID: GPMDSNA01
CID: IPPP
User ID:-1
DSID:
Gateway IP: //206.51.26.192:19791;19790/blackberry.net/GPAK
Description: IPPP for BIBS

I don't know what any of this mean so I don't mess with it.

I also see something that says IPPP for 5 click [IPPP]

Well some details from the author ;)

Default is a connection without any tweaking, I do not know why it's not working. Looks like I'm going to replace it with "Autnomatic" which will detect best settings by default.

BIS is a connection through IPPP Service Books with name "IPPP for BIS" or "IPPP for 5 Click". If app finds one of these records then BIS option is available and can be used. Let me know if you have some other IPPP Service Books for internet access. I'll add them to detection scheme.

BIS (mds-public) is another option. it is nondocumented I have not much details but it also works for me.

MDS is a connection through IPPP Service Books with name "Desktop", "BlackBerry" or "Internet". Usually used in BES I believe. Also let me know if there some other alternatives on your devices.

TCP is a direct transport using APN Settings. WiFi is also here.

But even if there are mo right option for you now. You can use Custom mode. Just select specific Service Record from the list (the list contains all IPPP records from Service Book) and add ";deviceside=true" (without quotes) to custom options. Or any other tweaks if you need and have enough experience.

Regards,
Sergey .

rivviepop · 05-22-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by demon_xxi

BIS is a connection through IPPP Service Books with name "IPPP for BIS" or "IPPP for 5 Click". If app finds one of these records then BIS option is available and can be used. Let me know if you have some other IPPP Service Books for internet access. I'll add them to detection scheme.

This is why BBTran on my device does not show BIS as an option - my service book is specifically named "IPPP for BIBS". Yeah, it says "BIBS" not "BIS", I don't know why it's different - but it works, I have normal BIS access with my data plan/device. Thanks.

demon_xxi · 05-22-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivviepop

This is why BBTran on my device does not show BIS as an option - my service book is specifically named "IPPP for BIBS". Yeah, it says "BIBS" not "BIS", I don't know why it's different - but it works, I have normal BIS access with my data plan/device. Thanks.

Ok, then you can try Custom option for now. And I'll add support of BIBS in next release too.

Nice feedback! Thanks

rivviepop · 05-22-2008, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon_xxi

Ok, then you can try Custom option for now. And I'll add support of BIBS in next release too.

hmmmm.... Custom with "deviceside=true" doesn't seem to work (TCP works OK!); here is the connection debug log:

Code:

a net.rim.tunnel - Clos-wap.voicestream.com - 5/22 18:04:07
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXss - 5/22 18:04:06
W BBTran - 8::20644::net.bbtran.Communication.SettingsProvider$CheckSettingsRunner::org.xmlpull.v1.XmlPullParserException: expected: START_TAG {http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}Envelope (position:START_TAG <html>@1:6 in java.io.InputStreamReader@b1ec2cbb)  - 5/22 18:04:06
W BBTran - 7::20608::net.bbtran.Communication.SettingsProvider$CheckSettingsRunner::HttpTransport error - 5/22 18:04:06
d net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXsb - 5/22 18:04:06
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXst - 5/22 18:04:06
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXss - 5/22 18:04:06
d net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXsb - 5/22 18:04:06
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXst - 5/22 18:04:06
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXss - 5/22 18:03:47
d net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXsb - 5/22 18:03:47
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXst - 5/22 18:03:47
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXss - 5/22 18:03:47
W BBTran - 6::1100::org.ksoap2.transport.HttpTransport::HT.Calling...Post - 5/22 18:03:47
W BBTran - 5::1084::org.ksoap2.transport.HttpTransport::HT.Calling...Properties provided - 5/22 18:03:47
d net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXsb - 5/22 18:03:47
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXst - 5/22 18:03:47
W BBTran - 4::1056::org.ksoap2.transport.HttpTransport::HT.Calling...Connection Established - 5/22 18:03:47
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXss - 5/22 18:03:46
d net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXsb - 5/22 18:03:46
i net.rim.tcpdatagram - TXst - 5/22 18:03:46
d net.rim.tunnel - THw2 - 5/22 18:03:46
d net.rim.tunnel - STu3 - 5/22 18:03:46
a net.rim.tunnel - STac - 5/22 18:03:46
d net.rim.tunnel - STu2 - 5/22 18:03:46
d net.rim.tunnel - STu1 - 5/22 18:03:46
d net.rim.tunnel - THa2 - 5/22 18:03:46
a net.rim.tunnel - Kick-wap.voicestream.com - 5/22 18:03:46
a net.rim.tunnel - Open-wap.voicestream.com - 5/22 18:03:46
i net.rim.tcp - TCIc - 5/22 18:03:46
a System - CMM: BBTran(2858) no sig from 0x33 - 5/22 18:03:46
a System - CMM: BBTran(2858) no sig from 0x33 - 5/22 18:03:46
W BBTran - 3::120::org.ksoap2.transport.HttpTransport::HT.Calling...Prepared - 5/22 18:03:46
W BBTran - 2::52::org.ksoap2.transport.HttpTransport::HT.Calling...Starting - 5/22 18:03:46
W BBTran - 1::20::java.lang.String::Using Connection opstions: ;ConnectionTimeout=10000;ConnectionUID=GPMDSNA01;;deviceside=true - 5/22 18:03:46
a System - CMM: BBTran(2858) no sig from 0x33 - 5/22 18:03:46
a System - CMM: BBTran(2858) no sig from 0x33 - 5/22 18:03:46

I noticed the double ";;" in there and tried it again without the ";" (and also without the whole deviceside=true string), same problem so that's not it. There's definitely network activity going on as we can see by the log, and visually I get the blue connection arrows and so forth; not sure what's wrong though. Any ideas?

pandabearsue · **Doesn't work -** 05-29-2008, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack55

I just downloaded BBTran and it says:
"Sorry, service is temporarly unavailable..."

I just downloaded it [BBTran 1.2 (4.2+) OTA], and I'm getting this same message.

I'm trying to use it on an 8830, Verizon, BIS.

MazdaspeedK · 05-13-2009, 01:16 AM

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I am a newbie on blackberry, have a quick question. I chose BIS for the BBTran for connections. Does that means I am using the blackberry data plan instead of the gprs? Coz I have unlimited bb data but I don't have gprs data add on. So I'm afraid it will charge my gprs data. Thanks