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CrackBerry Addict
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05-11-2009, 09:49 AM
You only need a data plan if you're on a GSM network and wish to see the cell site's latitude and longitude.
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Error Message -
05-11-2009, 03:05 PM
I have a BB 8310. I have loaded the singal location file via desktop manager. I when I click on the application on BB I get the following error:
Error Starting
Singalloc: module
'signalloc' attempts to access a secure API.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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CrackBerry Addict
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05-11-2009, 03:12 PM
A few releases back, I forgot to sign the app but it should be OK now. Are you trying the latest release? Have you tried the OTA download?
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05-11-2009, 03:17 PM
I tried release 1.0.1148. Have not tried the OTA yet don't know how.
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05-11-2009, 03:49 PM
Loaded 1.0.1259 and it works. But when I click on "show cell site on map" I get the following error:
ShowCellSite
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException
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CrackBerry Addict
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05-11-2009, 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eunisx
Loaded 1.0.1259 and it works. But when I click on "show cell site on map" I get the following error:
ShowCellSite
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException
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Being on AT&T you may not have BlackBerry Maps installed. Install GoogleMaps, then in SignalLoc options, set the mapping application to Google Maps.
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05-11-2009, 04:51 PM
Thanks again for the help.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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05-11-2009, 09:02 PM
Hi RemyJ great work, drove around this evening in areas we were getting all zeros and did not get any tonight. Thanks alot, you deserve a beer, if your ever travling through Augusta ME area let me know.
Phil
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05-13-2009, 09:34 AM
Do you need a data plan to be able to get the lat/long (current location), speed, etc...information?
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CrackBerry Addict
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05-13-2009, 09:56 AM
You shouldn't need a data plan for that. I just tested in an AT&T 8820 with an unprovisioned SIM and got radio and GPS information.
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06-03-2009, 04:25 PM
I had originally installed an older version of this app thru a link that I found on a board somewhere. Last night I decided to see if a newer version was available. (I think the one I installed was around version 700something.) Ahh hah! Version 1259 is out..awesome. So first i hit delete on the old version, and it removed it. I then installed the new version, which works awesome by the way, but now I just have the default application icon. I'm using an AT&T Bold. I've uninstalled and reinstalled 1259 about 20 times now, trying to get the icon back. I just now tried installing using the desktop version, and same thing. I always get the default "terminal window" icon for this app.
Does version 1259 no longer have a custom icon? Is there a way to change the default icon?
Thanks!
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-03-2009, 04:30 PM
Strange, the custom icon should be there. Try a battery pull and see if it shows up.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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06-03-2009, 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RemyJ
Strange, the custom icon should be there. Try a battery pull and see if it shows up.
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Works great on my AT&T Bold... complete with the custom icon...
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06-03-2009, 08:29 PM
Well this is odd. I had done about 5 battery pulls with no luck. Double checking my VPN settings, I had a typo in my password, which was preventing wifi from connecting. Once it was able to connect, after yet another fresh reboot, I now have an icon.
Did it need to pull it down from the net, or was it sheer coincidence?
I'm a happy camper now.
Thanks again...truly a fun app.
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06-16-2009, 12:30 PM
The OTA still doesn't work...can anyone repost the right one?
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-16-2009, 12:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyline350
The OTA still doesn't work...can anyone repost the right one?
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For version 1.0.1259
http://f5bbutils.fairview5.com/signa.../signalloc.jad
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06-16-2009, 01:15 PM
got it and works, thanks
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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06-22-2009, 12:40 PM
I am using signalLoc 1.1259 on 8830. It works on CDMA1x but doesn;'t work on GSM 1800Mhz.
ANy fix for the same?
In GSM, I don't get any data in display. Signal is also '0'
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-22-2009, 12:47 PM
Do you have a valid SIM card installed? What network? Good signal? Can you make and receive calls? Are you in the US when you try this?
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having a problem downloading signal location utility build 1.0.1259 -
06-30-2009, 08:05 PM
i just tried to download and install but it failed. it says "907 Invalid COD File not found". what does this mean and is there another way i can try to download and install it?
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-30-2009, 08:24 PM
Hmmm. I just tried it and it works. Are you using the BlackBerry Browser?
You can download the desktop package from here...
http://f5bbutils.fairview5.com/signa...c-1.0.1259.zip
Unzip it and install via the Desktop Manager.
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06-30-2009, 08:50 PM
ok great! thanks a lot that worked!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-30-2009, 10:27 PM
This is very very cool - I have been looking for something very similar to just what this app does for some time. It works well on my 8900 (4.6.1.231).
I did have to reboot after installing to see the custom icon (until then I had only the default icon) and curiously didn't get cell service on the reboot. The utility actually showed me that I had only a T-Mobile tower (I'm on AT&T) so this explained why I only had SOS service. A battery pull later and I was back on the AT&T tower - but knowing that I had acquired a tower but not my provider's tower did save me a moment of angst. Thanks for a useful app!
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07-04-2009, 02:49 AM
Remmy, I just installed 1.0.1259, works fine, execpt I do not get any (tower) LOC coordinates (not available), but my GPS on the bottom works fine and even transfers over to my Google maps. On the GPS side I get Uniassisted GPS (term)... the rest is fine...
my options are set to:
BBAlpha Sans
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yes
Metric
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Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
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KML
No
No
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Google Maps
1.0
Yes
MyLoc-
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Force Positive (I'm in Panama)
Force Negative(I'm in Panama)
Force Positive
Yes
9
/SDCardfile.....etc etc etc...
Yes
this is all on my BB Bold 9000 v4.6.0.162
Do I have to change any other settings...
Mister E
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07-04-2009, 03:01 AM
Remy, just as a footnote... when I pressed Post Quick Reply... the whole country (Panama) trembled... I hope this does not moves the towers....
Mister E
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CrackBerry Addict
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07-04-2009, 04:48 PM
Yeah, I saw you guys had an earthquake this morning. Hope everything's OK.
I rely on Google to get cell site location for GSM networks so the issue is probably Google just doesn't have the location in it's database.
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07-04-2009, 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RemyJ
Yeah, I saw you guys had an earthquake this morning. Hope everything's OK.
I rely on Google to get cell site location for GSM networks so the issue is probably Google just doesn't have the location in it's database.
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Remy OK... 3 items...
1) are my settings OK ??? -- I'm flying blind and SOLO here...
2) but I do not know if Goggle has the database for the Panama (4 operators)
3) this is what I get... where I'm now... 1 tower place (Iguess):
2009 07 04 20:05:23
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PANCW
V D WAP DOP
802 1 2245 3, 216
not available
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then all the GPS INFO comes up the only thing that worries me is the "Unassiste GPS (term)" item.... and Cell Site is empty/blank/nada...
so my question is... [look #1]
and yes... the quate was felt all over in Panama  .... no casualties just minor material loss... THANKS for looking this up.
Mister E 
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OTA link -
07-11-2009, 02:38 PM
here i found the OTA link that works. if u copy and paste it the website shortens it up. this is the full link.
http://f5bbutils.fairview5.com/
signalloc
/download/signalloc-1.0.1259
/ota/signalloc.jad
Last edited by Beanman : 07-11-2009 at 02:44 PM.
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07-14-2009, 06:22 PM
Wirelessly posted
Just and fyi. Tower location does not seem to work on the VZ Blackberry Tour :/ everything else seems to work fine.
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CrackBerry Addict
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07-14-2009, 06:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sprke81
Wirelessly posted
Just and fyi. Tower location does not seem to work on the VZ Blackberry Tour :/ everything else seems to work fine.
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Tower location doesn't work on ANY Verizon device because they don't enable it on the network and I haven't found a way to query Google for it.
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07-14-2009, 06:38 PM
Wirelessly posted
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Originally Posted by RemyJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by sprke81
Wirelessly posted
Just and fyi. Tower location does not seem to work on the VZ Blackberry Tour :/ everything else seems to work fine.
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Tower location doesn't work on ANY Verizon device because they don't enable it on the network and I haven't found a way to query Google for it.
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Well tower location works fine on non-vz blackerryies using vz towers. That seems like it would put the blame on something in VZ's blackberry OS's. Love the app tho, thanks for the hard
work.
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CrackBerry Addict
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07-14-2009, 06:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sprke81
Wirelessly posted
Well tower location works fine on non-vz blackerryies using vz towers. That seems like it would put the blame on something in VZ's blackberry OS's. Love the app tho, thanks for the hard
work.
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You're correct and you're welcome.
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07-16-2009, 06:43 PM
Hi RemyJ,
I found your app while looking for a way to determine what GSM frequency my ATT 8300 is using at my home. (Voice reception is terrible, but a tower is less than a mile away. I am thinking about installing an active repeater and wanted to avoid getting a dual band device). The app installed and appears to run beautifully.
Can you tell me if I can find the frequency currently in use by my device from the info you are presenting in the app? Maybe from the channel number?
I am not a programmer, but it looks to me like the RadioInfo class might tell us?
Thanks for the public service <grin>!!
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07-16-2009, 07:42 PM
Unfortunately for GSM networks, it's not so straightforward to determine frequency. I do display the ARFCN (Absolute Radio Frequency Channel Number) but it's not as "absolute" as you'd think. It depends on the band the phone is currently operating on and the RIM API doesn't expose that. It only tells you what bands the phone is capable of operating on.
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07-16-2009, 09:30 PM
But consider that in the US we use GSM-850 (chan 128-251?) and GSM-1900(chan 512-810?). Since the API *DOES* expose the channel id and you also know the carrier of the device (AT&T in my case), could you not deduce the frequency the BB is using?
Unless my thought process is flawed, I now should be able to assume what frequency I need to repeat in my home:
The channel id is 609. I would guess the BB is locking onto a 1900 MHZ signal...?
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07-17-2009, 10:09 AM
What you say is true but it requires me keeping up to date with carriers and deployments which is more than I can handle.
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07-17-2009, 10:39 AM
xxxxx
Last edited by akosnitzky : 07-17-2009 at 10:40 AM.
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07-24-2009, 11:39 PM
Since Verizon doesn't provide the lat/long, is there a list of their tower IDs to determine the location of the tower?
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07-25-2009, 12:21 PM
I keep looking but I haven't found one yet. Sorry.
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07-29-2009, 11:20 AM
Clive48: I am using signalLoc 1.1259 on 8830. It works on CDMA1x but doesn;'t work on GSM 1800Mhz.
ANy fix for the same?
In GSM, I don't get any data in display. Signal is also '0'
Quote:
Originally Posted by RemyJ
Do you have a valid SIM card installed? What network? Good signal? Can you make and receive calls? Are you in the US when you try this?
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Yes. I have a GSM SIM installed. I am in India & NW is 1800Mhz GSM (Aircel)
Signal is good. I am able to use gprs and make/rx calls, sms.
Pl advise

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