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07-30-2008, 08:36 PM
Hmm it said it was same version so bb asked me if I wanted to overwrite it?
I clicked no because it seems to be same version?
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07-30-2008, 08:39 PM
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Hmm it said it was same version so bb asked me if I wanted to overwrite it?
I clicked no because it seems to be same version?
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Hmmm. It downloads as 0.1.710 for me. Clear the browser cache maybe?
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07-30-2008, 09:09 PM
This is a little strange for me. It doesn't seem to fit in my 8130 screen properly.
The only things I see labeled are Time, Net, Svc, Id/Ch, and Speed, but Speed has no value. There are values for signal. No labels nor values for Loc. I have GPS enabled, is that all I need? On the bottom right of my screen I see a little arrow pointing down as if I can scroll, but I cannot.
Finally, when I look at "View Details" in my Saved Cell Sites, the values for Lat, Lon, and Alt are all 0.0
What am I doing wrong?
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07-30-2008, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tbhuang2
This is a little strange for me. It doesn't seem to fit in my 8130 screen properly.
The only things I see labeled are Time, Net, Svc, Id/Ch, and Speed, but Speed has no value. There are values for signal. No labels nor values for Loc. I have GPS enabled, is that all I need? On the bottom right of my screen I see a little arrow pointing down as if I can scroll, but I cannot.
Finally, when I look at "View Details" in my Saved Cell Sites, the values for Lat, Lon, and Alt are all 0.0
What am I doing wrong?
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It may have to do with the font you use. Change to BBMillibankTall and size 7 and see what happens. I'll have to put an option for selecting a font specifically for this app.
Also, make sire that in Options, you have the "Carrier provides cell site location" checked. You'll have to restart the app for this to take effect.
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07-30-2008, 09:45 PM
Thanks, that worked. But aw, I don't want to give up BBAlpha Sans :(
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07-30-2008, 09:57 PM
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Thanks, that worked. But aw, I don't want to give up BBAlpha Sans :(
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I'm adding the option to set a font specifically for SignalLoc.
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07-30-2008, 10:05 PM
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I'm adding the option to set a font specifically for SignalLoc.
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Wow Remy, you are just being the most helpful and responsive software developer to everyone, haha. Much props to you 
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07-30-2008, 10:33 PM
Ahh it was indeed browser cache... I got updated version. I'll test it later.
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07-31-2008, 01:48 AM
About integrating Google Maps, another 3rd party that is promoted among the BBF community is Poynt. In their last release, which was actually released earlier today, Google Maps is now an option for mapping. Previously, BB maps was the only option. Just letting you know, if you haven't, it's possible!
Also, I tried exporting my saved cell sites for the first time. It took a few tries just to get it to actually export. A few times I would enter a file name, click OK, and the file appears to be showing in the File Explorer subscreen. But when I try exporting again to make sure it's there, it's gone! I got it to save somehow eventually. I hooked it up to my computer, browsed to my SD card, and I found the file, but it had no file extension. I manually added ".kml". Finally, I opened the file through Google Earth.. and you know what I saw? It says my cell tower is in the Atlantic Ocean, just south of Ghana. I'm actually in a suburb north of Chicago, IL. WOW! I'm attaching the file here so you can see for yourself.
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07-31-2008, 04:08 AM
"Uncaught exception: permission denied"
Verizon 8830 OS 4.5.0.51, all permissions set on ALLOW
Any ideas?
a net.rim.tcp - clos - 7/31 01:04:07
a net.rim.tunnel - Clos- - 7/31 01:04:07
a net.rim.tunnel - STac- - 7/31 01:04:07
a net.rim.tunnel - Open- - 7/31 01:04:07
a net.rim.tcp - open - 7/31 01:04:07
a UI - GS-D dbb1e863 - 7/31 01:04:06
a UI - GS+Q2 dbb1e863net.rim.device.internal.ui.component.Trace BackDialog - 7/31 01:04:05
S Java Exception - SecurityException - 7/31 01:04:05
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a System - CMM: signalloc(5007) no sig from 0x33 - 7/31 01:04:05
a System - CMM: signalloc(5007) no sig from 0x33 - 7/31 01:04:05
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07-31-2008, 10:39 AM
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About integrating Google Maps, another 3rd party that is promoted among the BBF community is Poynt. In their last release, which was actually released earlier today, Google Maps is now an option for mapping. Previously, BB maps was the only option. Just letting you know, if you haven't, it's possible!
Also, I tried exporting my saved cell sites for the first time. It took a few tries just to get it to actually export. A few times I would enter a file name, click OK, and the file appears to be showing in the File Explorer subscreen. But when I try exporting again to make sure it's there, it's gone! I got it to save somehow eventually. I hooked it up to my computer, browsed to my SD card, and I found the file, but it had no file extension. I manually added ".kml". Finally, I opened the file through Google Earth.. and you know what I saw? It says my cell tower is in the Atlantic Ocean, just south of Ghana. I'm actually in a suburb north of Chicago, IL. WOW! I'm attaching the file here so you can see for yourself.
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Thanks for tip on Poynt. I'll take a look.
Bug in "Save File". I'll fix today.
Do you have "Carrier provides cell site location" checked in options? Does the cell site location display above the separator line in the main screen?
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"Uncaught exception: permission denied"
Verizon 8830 OS 4.5.0.51, all permissions set on ALLOW
Any ideas?
S Java Exception - SecurityException - 7/31 01:04:05
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Well, I don't have 4.5 to test with but I'll retest my Verizon 8830 with my bluetooth puck on 4.2.2
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07-31-2008, 12:49 PM
Oh, I figured out how to get it to really export. After typing in the file name and clicking OK, you see the file in the File Explorer subscreen. Press the "Enter" key and it will save it.
I do have "Carrier provides cell sit location" checked in options, and the cell site location does display above the separator line. The cell site location only shows up when I have GPS enabled, which doesn't make sense to me, but that's how it's working for me.
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07-31-2008, 05:19 PM
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Oh, I figured out how to get it to really export. After typing in the file name and clicking OK, you see the file in the File Explorer subscreen. Press the "Enter" key and it will save it.
I do have "Carrier provides cell sit location" checked in options, and the cell site location does display above the separator line. The cell site location only shows up when I have GPS enabled, which doesn't make sense to me, but that's how it's working for me.
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I'll have another version out in a few hours.
When you have GPS disabled, you're really disabling the entire Location Based Services bundle and it's the same APIs to get both GPS and cell site locations.
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07-31-2008, 07:25 PM
Realiability on getting GPS inform seems to be little off on 8830. Most times it just says "Not yet valid".
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07-31-2008, 07:27 PM
Just to clear things up, does this program tell me which cell tower my phone is currently using?
I'm using Sprint as my carrier.
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07-31-2008, 07:44 PM
--- SignalLocBB - Build 0.1.720 - Released July 31 2008
* Added: [ 2034059 ] Allow selection of font specifically for app
* Fixed: [ 2034058 ] File Export works in simulator but not on real devices
* Fixed: [ 2034443 ] Misc exceptions on Verizon devices
* Fixed: [ 2034474 ] Slow GPS acquisition
* Minor UI tweaks and typo corrections.
Don't forget to clear your browser cache before downloading.
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07-31-2008, 07:46 PM
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Realiability on getting GPS inform seems to be little off on 8830. Most times it just says "Not yet valid".
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Try build 720. I just uploaded it. It has some GPS acquisition fixes.
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Just to clear things up, does this program tell me which cell tower my phone is currently using?
I'm using Sprint as my carrier.
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Assuming you have an 8830 then with Sprint, you get cell tower information including it's location.
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07-31-2008, 07:48 PM
Just FYI...
I tested build 720 on...
Verizon 8830 with Pharos BT GPS
AT&T 8820 with internal GPS
AT&T 8700 with Pharos BT GPS
Sprint 8830 with internal GPS
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07-31-2008, 08:43 PM
I just installed the new release and found the text on the screen alittle on the minute side... So, I go to :
Options >Base font size > 20 > exit > save
Closed app, restarted and re-checked settings were saved.... BUT, I still see "minute font size" on screen... Any ideas?
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07-31-2008, 08:53 PM
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I just installed the new release and found the text on the screen alittle on the minute side... So, I go to :
Options >Base font size > 20 > exit > save
Closed app, restarted and re-checked settings were saved.... BUT, I still see "minute font size" on screen... Any ideas?
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AAHHHHHH! Give me an hour and I'll put up a new version. Sorry.
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07-31-2008, 09:46 PM
Oh yeah! One other thing is that it keeps saying that I'm roaming for some reason, even when I don't have that blue arrow.
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07-31-2008, 10:18 PM
--- SignalLocBB - Build 0.1.722 - Released July 31 2008
* Fixed: [ 2034523 ] Font size changes aren't working
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07-31-2008, 10:25 PM
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Oh yeah! One other thing is that it keeps saying that I'm roaming for some reason, even when I don't have that blue arrow.
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The roaming indicator in SignalLoc comes directly from the RadioInfo.getNetworkService() api. It's possible that some other RIM code is interpreting it in combination with other information and deciding that the handset really isn't roaming. What's the SID-NID-BID for the cell site? You can look it up and see who the real owner is.
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07-31-2008, 11:58 PM
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Assuming you have an 8830 then with Sprint, you get cell tower information including it's location.
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Does it have to be an 8830? I have an 8130 with Sprint.
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08-01-2008, 01:29 AM
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Does it have to be an 8830? I have an 8130 with Sprint.
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Sorry, an 8130 should work fine.
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08-01-2008, 03:58 AM
I installed Build 0.1.722 before taking a short trip tonight. I have Automatically save new cell sites and Carrier provides cell site location both enabled. All other options are at default values.
First, I don't know if this matters or not but for my location it said GPS Unassisted (it is currently set at default value, i.e. Assisted).
Second, the file export worked but I still had to manually type the .kml extension on my computer.
Third, the location for every cell tower is still in the Atlantic Ocean, south of Ghana. Again, I'm in a suburb north of Chicago, IL.
I never saved My Location, but my location's coordinates seemed to be similar to the cell towers (so I suppose it would also say that I am in the Atlantic Ocean). Again, my results are attached.
On the plus side, it monitored my speeds very accurately, and the distance to the current tower seemed to coincide with my signal (as my distance increased, signal generally weakened until reaching a new cell tower).
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08-01-2008, 10:36 AM
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I installed Build 0.1.722 before taking a short trip tonight. I have Automatically save new cell sites and Carrier provides cell site location both enabled. All other options are at default values.
First, I don't know if this matters or not but for my location it said GPS Unassisted (it is currently set at default value, i.e. Assisted).
Second, the file export worked but I still had to manually type the .kml extension on my computer.
Third, the location for every cell tower is still in the Atlantic Ocean, south of Ghana. Again, I'm in a suburb north of Chicago, IL.
I never saved My Location, but my location's coordinates seemed to be similar to the cell towers (so I suppose it would also say that I am in the Atlantic Ocean). Again, my results are attached.
On the plus side, it monitored my speeds very accurately, and the distance to the current tower seemed to coincide with my signal (as my distance increased, signal generally weakened until reaching a new cell tower).
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The Assisted/Unassisted thing doesn't matter. With the latest change to the GPS acquisition code, the option doesn't do anything. I'm going to remove it in the next release.
The export doesn't automatically add the file extension so are you typing the file extension when you save the file and it's not saving it that way?
I think I figured out the issue with the cell sites showing at coordinates 0.0,0.0.
Expect another release later today.
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08-01-2008, 10:48 AM
I too loaded the software last night. It must of been the older version because when I put the font size to 24 then a restarted the application I kept getting error and I had to do a soft boot on my phone. I will get the new version now.
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08-01-2008, 12:57 PM
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The export doesn't automatically add the file extension so are you typing the file extension when you save the file and it's not saving it that way?
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I don't type the file extension when exporting to file. I add the extension after transferring the extension-less file to my PC.
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Expect another release later today.
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Awesome!! 
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08-01-2008, 01:03 PM
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I don't type the file extension when exporting to file. I add the extension after transferring the extension-less file to my PC.
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Are you looking for me to automatically add the extension?
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08-01-2008, 01:14 PM
I downloaded version from your first post. I see it as 0.1.722 in application listing in my BB. I had changed the font to 24 before and now when I load this on I still have a pop up error message and my phone stalls every few second when I move the mouse. Help?
Added...I am uninstalling.
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08-01-2008, 01:28 PM
What's the error message in the pop-up?
Also, if you delete the application (Options->Advanced->Applications) it'll delete the settings and allow you to start fresh.
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08-01-2008, 01:55 PM
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What's the error message in the pop-up?
Also, if you delete the application (Options->Advanced->Applications) it'll delete the settings and allow you to start fresh.
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I uninstalled as you said and reinstalled. I have the same pop up message it say
worker location java.lang.illegalstate Exception US engine accessed without holding the event lock Now I cant ok out of it. Its froze. I have to hit the hangup key to go and uninstall it again.
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08-01-2008, 03:46 PM
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I uninstalled as you said and reinstalled. I have the same pop up message it say
worker location java.lang.illegalstate Exception US engine accessed without holding the event lock Now I cant ok out of it. Its froze. I have to hit the hangup key to go and uninstall it again.
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OK, I'm looking at it.
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08-01-2008, 08:54 PM
--- SignalLocBB - Build 0.1.726 - Released August 1 2008
* Fixed: [ 2035268 ] Possible exception before entering event loop
* Fixed: [ 2035114 ] CellSite exports to KML aren't saving lat/lon
* Added: [ 2035116 ] Allow GoogleMaps to be used as the map display
You can now use Google Maps as your mapping program (set in Options) but I still haven't figured out how to pass multiple locations at a time, so you can use it for single location or cell site displays but the "display all..." option still invokes BlackBerry Maps.
Don't forget to clear your browser cache before downloading.
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08-01-2008, 08:54 PM
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I uninstalled as you said and reinstalled. I have the same pop up message it say
worker location java.lang.illegalstate Exception US engine accessed without holding the event lock Now I cant ok out of it. Its froze. I have to hit the hangup key to go and uninstall it again.
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Give version 726 a shot and see if it fixes your problem. I think it will.
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08-01-2008, 09:34 PM
Nice work RemyJ.
nice little app. 
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what do people use this for?  
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08-01-2008, 10:08 PM
I'm getting my location showing in Africa on G Maps and I read the above posts and still can't fix it. Could you please suggest some settings which I might have wrong under Options?
Also sometimes when exiting the app I get APP ERROR 523 RESET and click to reboot. Help!
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08-01-2008, 10:50 PM
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I'm getting my location showing in Africa on G Maps and I read the above posts and still can't fix it. Could you please suggest some settings which I might have wrong under Options?
Also sometimes when exiting the app I get APP ERROR 523 RESET and click to reboot. Help!
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I'm not seeing this on any of my devices. What OS version are you running? Do you have the "Carrier provides cell site location" option turned on? Do the you see the same problem with BlackBerry Maps?
As for the 523, I don't have a clue. I've never seen it or even heard of it before. When the device comes back up, can you look at the log and see if there are any relevent entries? Also, is this the first time you've seen that error?
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