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Smile Custom Build MidpSSH for Blackberries - 09-27-2008, 09:27 PM

I've done my custom build of MidpSSH that is intended to work on blackberries.
All props go to Karl @ XK72 for providing this open source project. I'll continue to work on it to see if I can change some display settings (ie fonts).

Heres what I added apart from his latest released src (1.7.3)

* BIS-B support (depends on carrier on which ports you might be able to work, IE on mine they block port 22, but I just changed my sshd port of linux box to a higher port,). When configuring the host, just add :PORT (so it would be IP.OF.SERVER:PORT
* WIFI support
* Application is signed in order to gain access to some RIM protected APIs

Heres the OTA link for it

Latest: 1.7.4 beta2
http://ota.deltatech.com.mx/

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Default 09-27-2008, 09:32 PM

Sweet, thanks! I'll check it out soon.
   
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Default 09-27-2008, 10:18 PM

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Sweet, thanks! I'll check it out soon.
Great! Post feedbacks once you tried it.. I just tested it on my Bold.. not quite sure how it will work on other devices
   
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Default 09-27-2008, 11:31 PM

Quick 5 second feedback:

OK:
- works on 8320 w/ 4.5.0.81 (only tried TCP so far)

Oops:

- doesn't upgrade 1.7.3, installs alongside it; it appears 1.7.3 uses "midpssh2" as the module name and you're using "midpssh" -- this causes it not to upgrade, and any previous settings are not carried over (to my knowledge the RMS store is based on the specific module name)

- when entering a new session config, the Caps is on for the first letter; this should not be (even though it's normal for BB in general) since your hostname and username are 99.9% of the time lowercase

- it's 2008, SSH2 should be the default not SSH1

I'd love if somehow we could now put a private RSA/DSA key on the device and use ssh keys for logging in.... one for the feature list.

A minor UI enhancement would be to get rid of the menu that pops up when you click on things with the trackball and go directly to the Select action. (i.e. Sessions -> menu -> select -> (session) -> menu -> select). What a royal pain - the click of trackball should always do the usual Select action like most BB apps, if the user wants a menu they click the Menu key.

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Default 09-27-2008, 11:40 PM

Well basiclly I didnt touch most of the code for now.. I just wanted to first get the networking part working, via all possible methods/way of connecting... and the TCP method is exactly the same as Karl had (via APN). The current UI implementation was designed for all cell phones.

But I'll see what I can do for the other improvements you mentioned. The hardest one I see is the one to make it log on using ssh keys, since I would have to see first how ssh works and see if the classes that karl has on his code supports it, if not it will be a bit difficult for me to add a feature like that (i just started developing bberry apps :P)
   
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Default 09-28-2008, 07:56 AM

sweet
I have an 8100 on T-mobile Bis and it worked. I need a magnifying glass to read the remote screen. My eyes are bad enough. However this has wonderful potential.
First pass it turned the first letter of my login caps. Although it did connect and was properly refused.

Any hope of adjusting screen size of remote connection?
   
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Default 10-01-2008, 07:22 PM

I just compiled a newer version that has a bit bigger font. I know its still a bit small, but else it will break the terminal use (some app requires like >50 columns to display (like 'w'ho)

http://ota.deltatech.com.mx/

I'll try to now make improvements on the GUI deparment

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Default 10-02-2008, 09:11 AM

Thank you! I was hoping someone would update midpssh, I was originally looking to purchase from Rove, but with their descions lately is nice to see a freeware alternative updated.
   
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Default 10-03-2008, 02:12 AM

Is there a debug/log ? I am trying to connect to my internal Cisco routers using SSH2, and keep getting disconnected right after I connect.
   
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Smile 10-03-2008, 07:52 PM

Heres a newer build.. now it lets you choose between the size of the LCD font size, and menus are a bit better..

Please consider this as its still a work in progress to tweak it for our berries

http://www.deltatech.com.mx/midpssh/...ssh-bb-ota.jad
   
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Default 10-03-2008, 07:54 PM

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Is there a debug/log ? I am trying to connect to my internal Cisco routers using SSH2, and keep getting disconnected right after I connect.
Try the the beta2 I just posted.. let me know if you still have issues...
   
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Default 10-04-2008, 11:27 PM

hum. i'm not quite sure what this is, anyone care to explain?
   
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Default 10-05-2008, 07:36 AM

This is a free SSH/telnet client.. mainly used to connect to linux boxes/routers. The build offered by midpssh directly doesnt support wifi neither bisb, which the build I did offers (a great plus since some ppl just have access to bisb service and not thru APN).
   
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Is there a way to enable Multitap with this application?
   
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Default 10-09-2008, 02:55 PM

It works fine on my Berry with BIS-B. I am impressed.

Like rivviepop, I hate these annoying menus. Also the caps get in the way a little.

But unlike him, I don't want to put RSA/DSA keys on the device. We can save the password in the profile section, isn't that enough? Besides, key files could be copied to other machines. That's even more insecure than a saved password. In fact, I didn't save my password. Security is the whole point of SSH.

Great job!


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Default 10-09-2008, 03:58 PM

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But unlike him, I don't want to put RSA/DSA keys on the device. We can save the password in the profile section, isn't that enough? Besides, key files could be copied to other machines. That's even more insecure than a saved password. In fact, I didn't save my password. Security is the whole point of SSH.
Actually, it's not the same as a saved password when you think it through. A key on a device still must be unlocked with a passphrase, so in the event of a physical breech (device is stolen) you have 3 scenarios: no password saved or key (safest), a key still requiring a passphrase (next safest), and a password saved into device memory (least safe). By necessity the ability to somehow decrypt the password within the software must be present, as the password must be sent to the remote server at connection time. Even if you were able to encrypt the password with the same level of encryption as a keyfile, you necessarily would have to leave the means to decrypt it inside. Unless of course you built in a password to the software to unlock the password(s) (a possiblity for sure!).

Having a private keypart on a device is more secure than having a password saved in the application, but of course saving neither one of the two is the most secure from the device side standpoint in case of a physical attack. As you can imagine I don't save any passwords on the device.
   
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Default 10-09-2008, 09:29 PM

Works even with BOld?
   
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Works even with BOld?
Actually my test unit is a Bold So expect it to work on it...
   
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Default 10-10-2008, 10:03 AM

Just installed it on my 8800.
Works like a charm.

Now just need to figure out why I'm on BES but don't have access into my work network - then I can do my job from my BB.
   
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Default 10-30-2008, 06:25 PM

I installed the "beta 2" build on my 8330, and I am also having issues connecting to a Cisco device. Here is what the Cisco's log is telling me:

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Oct 30 21:43:21 UTC: SSH2 0: hostkey algo not supported: client ssh-dss, server ssh-rsa
I was reading somewhere that this issue may have something to do with needing to use an RSA key instead of a DSA key... I haven't found a way to make it connect yet.

On a side note, I'd love to be able to import a private key from putty or something. Most of our SSH2-enabled devices require me to use my private key. This one happens to not require a key, but it doesn't like the client. Just my luck.

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Default 11-07-2008, 10:01 AM

wow, thanks so much for furthering development of this product! now that Rove has stopped caring about the little guy, there don't seem to be any other options out there. unfortunately, i'm having the same problem with this build as with the last official build: SSH won't connect to a VMware ESX server. Connects, negotiating... nothing. server logs just show nothing after the initial connection. it can connect to an RHEL box via SSH, so it's not inherent to the app. and i could connect to ESX from Rove, when i demoed it months back. any ideas?
   
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Default 11-20-2008, 06:19 AM

Cool. The XK72 builds of midpssh wouldn't download and install on my 8320 (4.5.0.102). This worked first time, and wifi works!!! Nice job!!!
   
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Post ModpSSH on BlackBerry 4.5 OS - 11-20-2008, 02:52 PM

Great additions for sure, Thanks! Has anyone had success on MidpSSH on BB OS version 4.5? It worked flawlessly on 4.3 and now has a session error "Failed to transmit" or a timeout. I am hoping this is not another carrier (Verizon) block. I am also working against BES v4.0. Thanks.
   
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Default 11-20-2008, 02:53 PM

Sorry, Typo on last, I obviously meant "MidpSSH on Blackberry 4.5"
   
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Default 11-22-2008, 11:59 AM

Answered my own question. Works fine on Blackberry O/S v4.5 on a Curve 8330. The trouble I had was with the BES 4.0 server. Tunneling was blocked as the MDS service had unexpectedly shut down.
   
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Default 11-25-2008, 11:12 PM

I am having a very similar issue to Spatton. I have not been able to connect to any Cisco device (router and switch). I connect, but the session then terminates. I am using an 8330 on Verizon network, 4.5 OS. Also am connecting thru a BES, not sure what version that is. I have tried MidpSSH 1.7.3, the original 1.7.4, and now the second beta release.

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Default 11-26-2008, 09:23 AM

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I am having a very similar issue to Spatton. I have not been able to connect to any Cisco device (router and switch). I connect, but the session then terminates. I am using an 8330 on Verizon network, 4.5 OS. Also am connecting thru a BES, not sure what version that is. I have tried MidpSSH 1.7.3, the original 1.7.4, and now the second beta release.

Anyone have any advice?
I had some issues getting MidpSSH to connect to my Linux box. I had to change the setting in MidpSSH to tell it to use SSHv2 instead of the default of v1. I also recall on one machine I had to tell the SSH stack to accept keyboard-interactive logins or something like that.

I don't currently have MidpSSH on my phone, or I'd tell you exactly where the setting is.


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Default 1.7.4 Beta Not Working on Storm - 12-04-2008, 10:44 AM

I have BES and was able to connect to my internal servers with 1.7.3. But now with 1.7.4, I see a connection taking place, but no negotiation and authentication going on. I tested TCP/IP, BES, and Default without success. BlackBerry 9350. What am I doing wrong?

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SSH won't connect to a VMware ESX server. Connects, negotiating... nothing. server logs just show nothing after the initial connection. it can connect to an RHEL box via SSH, so it's not inherent to the app. and i could connect to ESX from Rove, when i demoed it months back. any ideas?
You may have found a solution by now...

I added 3des-cbc to my /etc/ssh/sshd_config file
Ciphers aes256-cbc,aes128-cbc,3des-cbc

Then restarted sshd
/etc/init.d/sshd restart

Worked like a champ after.

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Default 12-29-2008, 04:11 PM

Very nice work, runs absolutely great on my podunk carrier.
   
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Default 01-15-2009, 12:29 PM

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Great work. I am looking for ssh solution on my bb Bold. Mobilessh project was end and will not be available.
Thanks man.
   
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Default 01-17-2009, 02:18 PM

I'm having a hard time to connect to a Ubuntu box. I get two error messages:

=> Error 1
- Error Message:
Session Error
Writer: Tunnel failed
- Settings
. SSH2
. Connection type - Default
. Public key on or off

=> Error 2
- Error Message:
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Reader: java.io.IOException: could not connect to <hostname:22>
at
net.rim.utility.transport.tcp.nio.TCPChannel.conne ct(TCPChannel.java:168)
at
net.rim.protocol.iplayer.connection.handler.device .defaulthandlernio.Core.startChannel.(Core.java:12 3)
at"
(I can't scroll down to see the rest)
- Settings
. SSH2
. Connection type - BIS-B
. Public key on or off


Any ideas??

Vic.

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Got it working!!

For Rogers BIS users, make sure that you add "internet.com" under "Options=>Advanced Options=>TCP=>APN"


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This solved the problem for me too. Thanks!
   
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I'm using the development version of the app website, its working good with my 8100 and edge, but i really hate the first capital letter business.
   
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I second that. Its great to have, but turning off the auto text stuff for that command entry field would be perfect.
   
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Unhappy Problems with publickey - 03-03-2009, 12:29 PM

I'm trying to use 1.7.4 (I think its the Beta 2) to get to a server that only allows keys. I see :

Connecting to (SERVER):8022...OK
Negotiating...OK
ssh-dss (KEY)
Requesting authentication
Sent publickey
Sent password (FYI: My password field is blank)
Start keyboard-interactive
Authentication failed
Available methods are: publickey

And it doesn't let me on... Any ideas how to track/debug this?
   
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Default 03-03-2009, 06:01 PM

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You may have found a solution by now...

I added 3des-cbc to my /etc/ssh/sshd_config file
Ciphers aes256-cbc,aes128-cbc,3des-cbc

Then restarted sshd
/etc/init.d/sshd restart

Worked like a champ after.

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brilliant, that did it! thanks!
   
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Default Key Store - 03-17-2009, 01:06 PM

I have midpssh installed on a Bold.

Question: where does midpssh store the keys? I assumed that it was in the key store but it seems not as midpssh continues to access the keys in spite of my efforts to secure the store.
   
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Exclamation Cisco Devices and SSH - 03-25-2009, 01:08 PM

I can access my cisco devices when they are using ssh version 1. If I disable ssh version 1 on the routers and switches then I can not use Midpssh anymore. I get connected but during the negociation process I get disconnected. I did change the ssh setting to ssh2.

Any Ideas?
   
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Default 03-25-2009, 07:02 PM

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Latest: 1.7.4 beta2
http://ota.deltatech.com.mx/
I have a paid copy of Rove MobileSSH (paid before I worked for them for a year a few years ago). Although I don't work for them anymore, I must say I am dissapointed at their decisions. Now it has been more than 2 years since I worked for them, so I think it's safe for me to open up.

Good work on making a better version of midpssh for BlackBerry. I want to see more BlackBerry-specific enhancements sometime -- including an options screen with configurable font sizes as well as a similiar autohide edit buffer as Rove MobileSSH -- maybe you should publish the GNU-copylefted source code?

I am extremely familiar with this type of terminal programming. I worked with serial/ANSI/VT100/VT102/VT220 escape codes from early 1990's writing my own doors for BBS systems (old-fashioned consumer online bulletin board systems, before Internet became popular), including SuperChatter, a color version of a UNIX-like 'talk' split screen, but for DOS BBS systems, and it was so advanced that it behaved like a split screen text editor (sysop edits top half, user edits bottom half - cursor up/down/left/right/insert/delete/scroll/etc), which requires me to have very advanced knowledge of ANSI/VT escape codes to pull this off with maximum compatibility with end users' displays. I used this knowledge to help the original developer massively improve Rove (formerly Idokorro) MobileSSH's support, even though I was officially working on other Idokorro projects, though I originally joined Idokorro partially because I was very impressed with their MobileSSH/telnet software. I wrote an ANSI escape codes testing suite for the MobileSSH developer at Idokorro, which was used to verify a lot of things -- including scroll-related codes (Esc[nn@ Esc[nnP Esc[nnM etc...) which was used to greatly improve performance in text editors running over terminals, extensions I had used for my split-screen chat program that was editable.

Either way, my services are available, if any corporation wants help to release a telnet/ssh program into the upcoming BlackBerry App Center. (Tho, paid apps, can't use GPL copyleft open source code, for obvious reasons) Now that there is no paid competition in any standalone telnet/ssh apps, the time is ripe for a new company to fill this void. Or to turn this free app into something *better* than Rove MobileSSH. Right now, while better than before, this midpssh isn't yet as good as MobileSSH which I still use to this day as an end-user (In some cases, it is still possible to reactivate it by phone or email, if you already have a paid MobileSSH registration like I have)


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