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Spy-Ware on a BB! -
12-29-2008, 04:38 PM
I am trying to help a victim of a stalker who somehow is copying all her SMS messages and then sending them to her friends (in a 'show-off' way). It has the police baffled and I've been asked to help (I'm a P.I.). I do cellular forensics but spyware is new to me. The suspect has not been arrested because they cannot find anything to connect to him. Client is a wreck to say the least.
Does anyone know of any spyware that works with a BB other than FlexiSpy? How about 'Forwarding' type apps that reroute the calls and SMS's to a website?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to get a handle on this!
Tom Slovenski, new member
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12-29-2008, 04:46 PM
Welcome to the BBForums... I think you have already gotten some small direction from me on this. Good luck.
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12-29-2008, 04:50 PM
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Yes I did, thank you. I've been researching this thing for the past few days and am about crosseyed. LOL Trying to get as many leads as I can!
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12-29-2008, 04:56 PM
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12-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Oh snap! There's another one I'm gonna have to test!
Thatzmister2u, do you know how this bugger works?
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12-29-2008, 05:05 PM
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Oh snap! There's another one I'm gonna have to test!
Thatzmister2u, do you know how this bugger works?
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From what I know about it (which is very little) it is just an SMS archiving service but if running it would mean that the SMS are stored elsewhere for someone to get into.
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12-29-2008, 05:08 PM
Also, does this person backup the device using a PC? If so, are you certain that someone has not gained access to that? If they did get access they could use ABC Amber to convert the backup files.
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01-02-2009, 02:48 AM
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I viewed txtforward from pocket electric do the job! Forward all sms to an email address!
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01-02-2009, 12:24 PM
If you find out the answer, please come back and let us know!
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01-03-2009, 12:05 AM
Wirelessly posted (Curve 8350i)
If you have the ability to obtain a subpoena, the wireless carrier can trace the messages and might be able to provide additional insight.
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01-03-2009, 01:52 PM
Yes Zen, that is true. We have had problems in this arena from time to time due to lack of funding on the client's part and/or lack of cooperation from those who are able to get the subpoenas. It's frustrating for me to see what CAN be done and then have to deal with those with no concern or who wish to drag their heels.
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01-12-2009, 12:33 AM
Do you want spyware for the Blackberry? Or and Anti-Spyware app? They're two different things. And the only way I see this happening, is if the owner of the phone is using a program that gives an open door to the hacker to get into it, or the hacker them self has had time to work on the device. If you want someone to check her phone, get the IT guy at your job to check the blackberry. It's programmed in Java. If he knows programming, he can find an error, or a back door in the actual code.
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01-12-2009, 01:21 AM
The OP is trying to help someone who may have a spy app on their BlackBerry. There are only 2 or 3 such applications that work on BlackBerrys. There are no backdoors on the BlackBerry -- it is a very secure device. The only way a spyware program can get on a BlackBerry is if someone has physical access to the device.
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04-30-2009, 01:15 PM
I am also a PI and dealing with the same type of issue. Have any of you found a way to effectively detect the spyware if it is there or do I just need to tell her to wipe her device and start over with a secure password.
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04-30-2009, 01:25 PM
Wipe it out and use a VERY secure password that someone close to them would not guess.
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04-30-2009, 01:44 PM
NJ's the is best advice.
Wipe the device:
How do I wipe the BlackBerry using Jl Cmder? - BlackBerryFAQ
Then set a password as advised.
Do a complete backup of the device first using Desktop Manager, and then after the OS is restored to the device, use DM to Restore/Advanced only the address book, calendar, etc., as none of that is going to have any spyware in it.
If you want to do a first look at Options > Advanced > Applications, if there is any spyware loaded on the device you might noticed some odd application there. Ask here if you do, stating the name of the app in question.
Finally, the ex-husb may just know here email account password. Tell her to change that pw as well.
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04-30-2009, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JSanders
Finally, the ex-husb may just know here email account password. Tell her to change that pw as well.
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Additionally, you should check the email account for any forwarding rules that may have been setup. If the email account password is changed, yet a forwarding rule exists, the 3rd party will continue to receive messages without knowing the new password. They just won't be able to affect any changes to the forwarding once the password is changed.
Treat your password like your toothbrush. Don't let anybody else use it, and get a new one every six months.
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04-30-2009, 01:48 PM
True, CO_BBTechie, thanks.
There are so many places to look first, before the BlackBerry, for spyware or NON-syware that will simply do what one needs to have knowledge of another personal electronic communications.
Last edited by JSanders : 04-30-2009 at 02:05 PM.
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04-30-2009, 02:04 PM
thanks for the help guys. this is all new to me.
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Spyware & Bluetooth -
05-01-2009, 10:33 PM
There are several apps available that load on the Offenders device. If the Target device has bluetooth on, discoverable or not, the offenders device can tap in and read all contents. No pass key required and no record of violation left. This is a low tech tool used by LE to tap into data on PayGo type phones.
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05-02-2009, 02:34 PM
I would like to see some evidence that this would work on a Blackberry.
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05-02-2009, 02:49 PM
I personally have no experience with this. I am told by two close friends who are active fed LE that it works. I have no vested interest in the thread either way, just providing information. I am a long time BB user but am not naďve enough to believe that the security barriers on the BB or any other other mobile PDA/cell are capable of fending off this type of threat. Does anyone truely believe that we are immune from unwanted threats of this type?
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08-27-2009, 08:23 AM
DexRex doesn't work at all. It keeps saying that it can't connect (yes i double checked permissions) Then when it says connected i log in to my account and it says I don't have anything archived. I've given up on it, we're looking for a solution to archive our communications and flexispy is looking like the best option. I've not read anywhere that it doesn't work.
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08-27-2009, 11:05 PM
Flexi-Spy won't work on CDMA devices. Your profile shows you have Verizon, so you have a CDMA phone and there is no spyware that works on CDMA phones.
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