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bigmdime 12-09-2005 08:50 PM

Why is there so little 3rd party softare for the BB? Just switched from the Treo...
and i have to say i'm shocked at how little quality software is out there. I switched from a Treo and there's endless high quality software for that device (wish I could say the same for the treo's stability). If you've ever used software like agendus, documents to go, vindigo, zlauncher and others on the treo, you know that the quality of the applications is incredible. I am very surprised that there's no documents to go equivalent on the BB. eOffice is unusable on the 7100 - you can't see anything it's so damn small. You have to pay $100 a year to view quality attachments with repligo and you can't even edit them.

Anyway, I guess this is a vent, but i assumed with so many BBs out there that application development would be much further along. Anyone else as surprised as I am? Yes - the BB does messaging really well, and i have no intention of going back to the treo with its lack of stability, but i wish there was more software for the BB....

biellos 12-09-2005 09:29 PM


CrackBerry NYC 12-09-2005 10:01 PM

I second that "agreed"

hard_core 12-09-2005 10:39 PM

maybe we have to wait for the developers to get their hands on the intel proc line of BB's

bigmdime 12-09-2005 11:06 PM

I'm very new to the BB - i don't even know what the intel proc line is (i'll learn tho...i've only had it for two days).... but the device has been around for ages... i mean, i can probably get better quality software for a RAZR. For example, most of the palm interfaces are as ugly and uninnovative as the BBs. But companies are out there makng the applications so much more usable.

I'm also surprised at the lack of any sort of usability design on the BBs applications. The palm's aren't so great either i guess but so many people have improved upon them in countleass ways. Has there ever been a screen/form as unusable as the one for making tasks? it's like it's 1985 all over again -- bring out the CRTs. There's no layout, no use of spacing or font sizes to make the form more intuitive to use. i'm not talking about anything fancy - your average Microwave has a better application interface.

thriller 12-09-2005 11:08 PM

some of the apps that are made are sometimes used internally or made custom to certain customers.

bigmdime 12-10-2005 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by thriller
some of the apps that are made are sometimes used internally or made custom to certain customers.

i really don't know how big this business is.... but you'd think that a dataviz or someone like that would take a stab at the BB. Is it much harder to develop for than the palm os?

stevenjenkins 12-10-2005 08:32 AM

I would third that. I spoke to a Dataviz rep in September about Documents to Go for BB and he said, "at this point we are not considering it, until the demand is high enough." So I'm telling everyone I know with a BB to write Dataviz and make the request. If they hear from enough customer, they'll get around to it.

bigmdime 12-10-2005 10:04 AM

what's the penetration of the BB vs. the Palm? I'd have to believe there are more BBs. I'd bet it's RIM not establishing and supporting a true developer community.

mrogers 12-10-2005 11:26 AM

I agree there needs to be more software for BBs, but here's why there's so much more for Treo:

1. Palm platform has been around for ages (around a decade, I think), and at one time they had something like 75% of the handheld market. Lots of developers learned to work on Palm, and then kept with it. Blackberries were only moderately hot a few years ago, and have only gotten REALLY hot in the last two.
2. The Blackberry platform is more restrictive. I have dabbled in *DKs for Palm OS, Windows, and BB. The BB platform is by far the most complicated for making a quality application. Because you don't have a touch screen, it actually requires some serious and somewhat unconventional thought from the developers about how they're going to design the interface for their application. As an interface designer, I think this is a spectacular thing, because too many programmers don't know jack-**** about interface design. The downside, of course, is that we don't have as many apps.
3. The last big reason is that the majority of BlackBerries are corporate devices and many people aren't allowed to install other software on their devices. And any software that IS developed is usually done so for a specific company, or by the IT department of your own company (as mine does), and it never sees the light of day beyond your own employees.

But I too have a desire for more (free!) applications. We can only hope that since BBs have recently become so very popular we will soon see a surge in application development.

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