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Thumbs Must Hurt
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Minuet Browser V2.0 Released -
03-10-2006, 01:00 PM
Minuet is the top selling 3rd party web browser for BlackBerry handhelds. It is stand-alone (no middle-man servers) and handles full HTML pages.
Some major enhancements in V2.0 are: - Full Support for HTTPS
- Enhanced Usability (e.g. full support for input forms)
- Background Loading and Web Caching
- Programmable Shortcuts
- Enhanced 3-D Looks
For full product details, trial version downloads and purchases, please go to TriPrince - Maker of Minuet Browser.
To download the demo version directly to your BlackBerry via OTA, use the following link:
www.triprince.com/minuetbb.jad
Last edited by triprince : 07-20-2006 at 07:56 PM.
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CrackBerry Addict
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03-10-2006, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by triprince
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That link only brings up the jad file.
Looks very interesting, will have to check it out.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-10-2006, 01:42 PM
That link should be opened with the BlackBerry Browser. Do you mean you only see the JAD information when you did that?
That link does work, but as far as I know, some service providers (e.g. Rogers in Canada) intentionally disable OTA for BlackBerry. Others may have specific restrictions on the size of the files. Please check with your service provider to make sure they do not have restrictions on OTA.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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03-10-2006, 01:50 PM
The link does not work for me either and I am with Verizon.
* * * AONEHOBO * * *
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-10-2006, 02:06 PM
Unfortunately, my service provider *is* Rogers so I cannot verify OTA with my BlackBerry :( I have users that have no problems with it but some have reported problems. This has been very puzzling indeed ...
If OTA does not work for you, please download the software package and use the Application Loader to install Minuet.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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03-10-2006, 02:07 PM
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The link does not work for me either and I am with Verizon.
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Works fine for me. I'm with T-Mo UK.
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03-10-2006, 02:55 PM
Doesn't work for nextel. I have completed many many downloads ota but this one only jad code. I will do a manual load when I get to my home computer to check it out.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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03-10-2006, 05:43 PM
The link does not work on Cingular either.
Ron Sustich
Siemens Energy & Automation
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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Location: Brighton, UK
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03-10-2006, 07:27 PM
I can download it OK (T-Mo UK), but it won't connect to any websites.
It sits there for ages saying connecting, and will sometimes fail with an uncaught exception.
The APN is all set up correctly, and works ok with other apps.
Paul Ockenden
Contributing Editor
PC Pro Magazine
Last edited by PaulOckenden : 03-10-2006 at 07:30 PM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-10-2006, 08:28 PM
Hi Paul,
The suggested APN setting in Minuet is for T-Mobile USA. For T-Mobile UK, please try "general.t-mobile.co.uk" instead. It should have been more clear in the built-in help screen (sorry for the oversight.)
Still, these settings do change without notice. So please check with your service provide to make sure they are up-to-date.
Thanks,
TriPrince.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-11-2006, 04:34 AM
Thanks - it turned out to be a config issue (the APN was correct, but the handheld still had remnants of an old enterprise activation which was blocking data access).
The next problem, and it's a showstopper for me, is that Minuet doesn't seem to work with password protected websites. I'm talking about sites that use browser based security. i.e. the site issues a 401 status code and the browser then asks (via its own user interface) for a username and password, not sites which use forms for requesting usernames and passwords.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-11-2006, 09:58 AM
OK, next problem  I would guess that the site replies on Javascripts for the login function? (Minuet currently does not support Javascripts.) However, I would have to take a look at the site to see for sure. Could you send me the URL?
Thanks,
TriPrince.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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03-12-2006, 08:47 AM
When I tried the OTA @ www.triprince.com/minuetbb.jad I too got the file list instead of the download option when using the Inet browser. I used the TMO WAP browser and was able to download the file onto my 7105t.
Thanks
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03-12-2006, 09:52 AM
The download was fine, but I can not enter an URL when selecting Open... from the menu. Even using the menu entry "Edit" does not help. Do you have any idea why this is not working?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-14-2006, 10:35 AM
It appears your keyboard type is not set properly. Please go to Preferences > General and check the Keyboard Type setting. If you have a device with a full keyboard (a.k.a QWERTY keyboard), you should select the QWERTY keyboard. If you have one of the newer devices that have less number of keys (also called SureType), such as the 71xx, you should select the SureType setting. Which device do you have?
If neither works for you, you can select the third (default) setting. This setting will work on all the devices but not as conveniently. With this setting, you will need to press the RETURN key to go into text input mode to enter something into a field.
Thanks for trying Minuet!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-14-2006, 02:52 PM
One more thing ... you can "press-and-hold" a key to cycle through all the input choices (i.e. capitals, symbols, etc.)
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-15-2006, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by triprince
I would guess that the site replies on Javascripts for the login function?
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No - just a standard browser login using a 401 status code.
I can't give you the URL, I'm afraid, because it's a system owned by one of my clients.
Oh, hang on - I can put a password protected page on my own site.
Try http://www.ockenden.com/test/
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-16-2006, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulOckenden
No - just a standard browser login using a 401 status code.
I can't give you the URL, I'm afraid, because it's a system owned by one of my clients.
Oh, hang on - I can put a password protected page on my own site.
Try http://www.ockenden.com/test/
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Yes, that username/password box is a JavaScripts object. Minuet can handle plain HTML log-in forms without JavaScripts.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-17-2006, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by triprince
Yes, that username/password box is a JavaScripts object.
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No it isn't. It has nothing to do with JavaScript. Try it with JavaScript switched off if you want to prove it.
It's part of the HTML Spec. If the server responds with a 401 status code the browser is supposed to prompt for a username and password, and try logging in again.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-21-2006, 05:25 PM
Gotta say though, apart from the authentication thing (which I understand is close to being fixed), Minuet is an awsome browser. It beats the pants off Mini Opera, especially because it does "BlackBerry" type things properly. It makes it so much more intuitive to control and navigate.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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Minuet V2.0.1 Released -
03-23-2006, 03:51 PM
Thanks to Paul for helping to fix the HTTP authentication problem! Users of V2.0.0 please contact me for a free upgrade at ![[email address]](http://www.blackberryforums.com/?emailimage=b29ae4494cfbd2b620614cdf599a618b) . (Please provide your purchase reference number for a speedy process.)
Last edited by triprince : 03-23-2006 at 05:01 PM.
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New Member
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03-24-2006, 08:03 AM
I can load the Minuet demo via Desktop Manager and launch the app successfully. Performance is excessively slow on my Verizon BB7250, however. Perhaps this is due to the continuous demo message crawl and frequent activation pop-ups. I cannot evaluate this program as it is.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-24-2006, 09:03 AM
Anybody try this out on a Nextel BB? I'm curious.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-27-2006, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RMPoor
I can load the Minuet demo via Desktop Manager and launch the app successfully. Performance is excessively slow on my Verizon BB7250, however. Perhaps this is due to the continuous demo message crawl and frequent activation pop-ups. I cannot evaluate this program as it is.
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I would recommend you try upgrading the OS to 4.1, or the latest one, if possible. Minuet runs really fast on 32 MB Flash / 4 MB RAM devices with OS 4.1. Big apps run very slowly with OS 3.x, and even with some earlier versions of OS 4.0.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-27-2006, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by atwageman
Anybody try this out on a Nextel BB? I'm curious.
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We have many Nextel users running Minuet. Obviously, the quickest way to answer that question is to try it for yourself. We'll be glad to help if you have any problems/questions.
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New Member
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03-27-2006, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by triprince
I would recommend you try upgrading the OS to 4.1, or the latest one, if possible. Minuet runs really fast on 32 MB Flash / 4 MB RAM devices with OS 4.1. Big apps run very slowly with OS 3.x, and even with some earlier versions of OS 4.0.
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I am running 4.1.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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03-27-2006, 02:38 PM
Thank you for your feedback! Minuet actually runs quite fast on my 7290 (with OS 4.1), and I'm not sure what could be the difference. Does it say 4.1.xxxx in the Options > About screen?
Also, which is your service provider? And is it slower than the BB browser? Is it slow even when you bring up menus and roll the thumbwheel? Or only when you tried to access a site?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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More info on Minuet running slowly -
03-28-2006, 06:03 PM
Thanks to RMPoor for providing me with more info! Minuet is not having a speed problem in your case. You need to get full Internet access properly set up for your account. Unfortunately, I got reports from Cingular and Verizon users that they have to call their service rep even after setting up the APNs correctly. Fortunately, the reps are usually very helpful and the issues got resolved quickly.
About the slowness of Minuet on some devices, I have now some confirmed cases when the speed issue went away after upgrading the OS from 4.0 to 4.1. I strongly suspect that some earlier 4.0 versions are very slow when running good size apps. If you cannot upgrade to OS 4.1 (because of memory size limitations), I would still encourage upgrading to the latest 4.0 verison possible before trying Minuet.
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