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Old 10-14-2006, 01:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Newbie to the BB world. Cant download midpssh. Advice?

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I am a newbie to the BB world, so please dont flame me.

I am trying to download midpssh to my BB 8700 from their site. xk72.com/wap

I went to it from the blackberry browser on the 8700, and went to download the version for OS4, since I believe thats what I have.

I get the following error:

HTTP Error 406: Not Acceptable

The page you are trying to load is not supported by the browser. Please try loading a different page.

Then I clicked on details for that error and got this:

200: Application can not accept the content [text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor]

What causes this? I went over the settings for the browser and nothing seems like it would cause that.

I also tried putting the necessary files on my own site to download and got the same error, and I think at one point it started opening the file in with a lot of garbled up text, as if maybe it didnt support it?

I tried the other versions too, the lite, the full, etc, and all do the same thing.


I tried to setup the software to transfer files to see if that worked, but PocketMac didnt show an option for that? (I have a powerbook)


What else can I try?
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try on a windows box -- get the Blackberry JDE, install it.

in %program files%\research in motion\blackberry jde*\bin\javaloader

use this program to upload a .COD file, download MISPSSH.cod from their website, then upload this to your blackberry

javaloader -usb load <file>.cod

try tjhat.. if you are technically inclinded this shouuld be no problem
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Old 10-14-2006, 04:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Try on a windows box -- get the Blackberry JDE, install it.

in %program files%\research in motion\blackberry jde*\bin\javaloader

use this program to upload a .COD file, download MISPSSH.cod from their website, then upload this to your blackberry

javaloader -usb load <file>.cod

try tjhat.. if you are technically inclinded this shouuld be no problem
I will see if I can give that a try tomorrow, since I dont have my mini usb cable here.
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Old 10-15-2006, 11:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Try on a windows box -- get the Blackberry JDE, install it.

in %program files%\research in motion\blackberry jde*\bin\javaloader

use this program to upload a .COD file, download MISPSSH.cod from their website, then upload this to your blackberry

javaloader -usb load <file>.cod

try tjhat.. if you are technically inclinded this shouuld be no problem

ok, I really dont know wtf I am doing now. I downloaded the JDE, and the mispss.cod from their site.

How do I run that command? Where?

BTW this error of not being able to run/download applications happens with all applications I have tried to install on the blackberry.

what causes this?
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I suggest that you try our SSH product, Idokorro Mobile SSH. You can download it over the air from mobile.idokorro.com using your browser on your BlackBerry.

Make sure to use the browser called "Internet Browser" or "BlackBerry Browser", if you use the wap browser it could cause problems.

There is also 2 other methods of loading Mobile SSH onto your device, instructions can be found at:
Idokorro

If you have any problems please contact our support team at [email address] or call us at 1-888-IT-ADMIN and we will be glad to help you!
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I suggest that you try our SSH product, Idokorro Mobile SSH. You can download it over the air from mobile.idokorro.com using your browser on your BlackBerry.

Make sure to use the browser called "Internet Browser" or "BlackBerry Browser", if you use the wap browser it could cause problems.

There is also 2 other methods of loading Mobile SSH onto your device, instructions can be found at:

If you have any problems please contact our support team at [email address] or call us at 1-888-IT-ADMIN and we will be glad to help you!

it is set to blackberry browser, and I tried a couple of other ones and they all do it.
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HTTP Error 406: Not Acceptable
This error indicates that your BES Administrator has set an IT Policy that prevents you from installing any third party applications like midpssh and Mobile SSH on your BlackBerry. The IT Policy is called Disallow "Third Party Application Downloads" and can be found in the Security Policies section of the BES IT Policies.

In order to install one or both of the applications your BES Administrator will need to temporarily change the policy for your handheld.

Once installed the policy can be re-enabled as it does not stop you from using third party applications only installing them.
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Originally Posted by pauldumais
I suggest that you try our SSH product, Idokorro Mobile SSH. You can download it over the air from mobile.idokorro.com using your browser on your BlackBerry.

Make sure to use the browser called "Internet Browser" or "BlackBerry Browser", if you use the wap browser it could cause problems.

There is also 2 other methods of loading Mobile SSH onto your device, instructions can be found at:
Idokorro

If you have any problems please contact our support team at [email address] or call us at 1-888-IT-ADMIN and we will be glad to help you!
Hey there. When you start giving away mobile SSH I'll consider using it, but until then, the *free* MIDPSSH is for me! I won't pay for mobile SSH for personal use, and that's what i use it for..

When i download MIDPSSH i have no problems, make sure your carrier and if your on BES, that they support downloading of software, and that you have the correct operation system version, etc.
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This error indicates that your BES Administrator has set an IT Policy that prevents you from installing any third party applications like midpssh and Mobile SSH on your BlackBerry. The IT Policy is called Disallow "Third Party Application Downloads" and can be found in the Security Policies section of the BES IT Policies.

In order to install one or both of the applications your BES Administrator will need to temporarily change the policy for your handheld.

Once installed the policy can be re-enabled as it does not stop you from using third party applications only installing them.

I am not using BES, I am using Blackberry for personal use. Is there any way to check that installation of 3rd party is allowed/disallowed?

I have already wiped the BB, to try and see if that was the issue, but no sucess still. =(
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I am not using BES, I am using Blackberry for personal use. Is there any way to check that installation of 3rd party is allowed/disallowed?

I have already wiped the BB, to try and see if that was the issue, but no sucess still. =(
You said earlier that you used the "BlackBerry Browser" is that what the icon on your BlackBerry says? Usually this icon only shows up if you are on a BES. Please clear up what the name of the browser you are using is, it will help us diagnose your problem.
Also what carrier are you on?
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You said earlier that you used the "BlackBerry Browser" is that what the icon on your BlackBerry says? Usually this icon only shows up if you are on a BES. Please clear up what the name of the browser you are using is, it will help us diagnose your problem.
Also what carrier are you on?

To go online I hit the "Internet browser" button. It loads up the favorites or I can go to whatever site I want from there.

I think I might be getting all the terms mixed up.


I am not using the blackberry on a Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES). I am using it for my own personal home use.
I am going to xk72.com/wap and hitting to download ssh program for the version 4 of the blackberry OS.

Thats where I am getting this error. I mentioned that there is an option in the browser to change "compatibility" mode to I assume emulate another browser, so the page loads. It still doesnt do anything.

I am stuck and I think about ready to get rid of this thing, since it really doesnt work.

I am on T-Mobile

I dont know what other info to provide. I mean if installing things is going to be this much of a headache then forget it.
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I am on T-Mobile

I dont know what other info to provide. I mean if installing things is going to be this much of a headache then forget it.

Did you try downloading the BLACKBERRY BUILD from MidpSSH | SSH and Telnet client for Mobile devices (MIDP/J2ME)

Download it, and use teh APPLICATION LOADER to load the software.

Downloading software is EASY on the blackberry, you have a problem, it's not the blackberries fault. Use the APPLICATION LOADER and you will have your software..

For more information, if MIDPSSH does not work, check out:
BlackBerry Internet - MSN/chat/web/telnet/TCPIP - No BES!

make sure you have the correct blackberry model. ALso make sure YOU ARE NOT on BES and that you are not restricted. DId you buy this blackberry off ebay?

if it's brand new, and from tmobile, and you are not on BES you should be fine.

Even BES users should be fine but some policies restrict downloads and internet access.

good luck, have patience.
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With the IT Policy I mentioned in my previous post enabled you will definitely get the exact error that you originally reported. If this is a brand new BlackBerry from T-mobile that you did not put on a BES then as headtailgrep said you should be fine and no IT Policy should be applied.

If this was purchased from another source though or if you just want to check just to be safe you can go to Options -> Security Options -> General Settings (you may also have Settings at the start before Options as this can change with the theme).

On that screen you should see something that starts like:
Password: Disabled
Security Timeout: 2 min

Do you see an "IT Policy Name" about 6 lines down on that screen? If you do then it is very likely that the handheld was previously on a BES and the IT Policy I mentioned is still applied to the handheld.

If an IT Policy has been applied to your handheld then this post may be of assitance to you in clearing the policy:
Cleanly removing a device from a BES? Is it possible?
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Did you try downloading the BLACKBERRY BUILD from MidpSSH | SSH and Telnet client for Mobile devices (MIDP/J2ME)
Yes I did. The blackberry in specific version 4, and I even tried for version 3. None worked.
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Download it, and use teh APPLICATION LOADER to load the software.

Downloading software is EASY on the blackberry, you have a problem, it's not the blackberries fault. Use the APPLICATION LOADER and you will have your software..
I have a Mac, and I used PocketMac, and I did not see the Application loader anywhere there.

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For more information, if MIDPSSH does not work, check out:
(cant post link since I dont have more than 10 posts)
What does that have to do with midpssh? That only talks about internet access. I have internet access already it seems. I can browse freely around the web it seems, just cant download programs.

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make sure you have the correct blackberry model. ALso make sure YOU ARE NOT on BES and that you are not restricted. DId you buy this blackberry off ebay?

if it's brand new, and from tmobile, and you are not on BES you should be fine.

Even BES users should be fine but some policies restrict downloads and internet access.

good luck, have patience.

I did buy it off ebay. I did wipe it clean though and started from scratch I believe. I forgot where that option was. But I remember getting to it, and hitting "wipe handheld".

I went to the options->security->general settings-> and it says the following:

password: disabled
security timeout: 2 min
lock handheld upon holstering: no
content protection: disaled
content compression: enabled

IT Policy name: Default
Last Updated: Sep 10, 2005 5:23AM

Services:

****No services******

So what does that mean? that it is still part of a BES network or what?
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With the IT Policy I mentioned in my previous post enabled you will definitely get the exact error that you originally reported. If this is a brand new BlackBerry from T-mobile that you did not put on a BES then as headtailgrep said you should be fine and no IT Policy should be applied.

If this was purchased from another source though or if you just want to check just to be safe you can go to Options -> Security Options -> General Settings (you may also have Settings at the start before Options as this can change with the theme).

On that screen you should see something that starts like:
Password: Disabled
Security Timeout: 2 min

Do you see an "IT Policy Name" about 6 lines down on that screen? If you do then it is very likely that the handheld was previously on a BES and the IT Policy I mentioned is still applied to the handheld.
Yes I did buy it off ebay, but I thought I wiped it clean? Read my above post with what it says on that screen.

Quote:
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If an IT Policy has been applied to your handheld then this post may be of assitance to you in clearing the policy:
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I'll give that a try.
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Originally Posted by WhiteRonin
With the IT Policy I mentioned in my previous post enabled you will definitely get the exact error that you originally reported. If this is a brand new BlackBerry from T-mobile that you did not put on a BES then as headtailgrep said you should be fine and no IT Policy should be applied.

If this was purchased from another source though or if you just want to check just to be safe you can go to Options -> Security Options -> General Settings (you may also have Settings at the start before Options as this can change with the theme).

On that screen you should see something that starts like:
Password: Disabled
Security Timeout: 2 min

Do you see an "IT Policy Name" about 6 lines down on that screen? If you do then it is very likely that the handheld was previously on a BES and the IT Policy I mentioned is still applied to the handheld.

If an IT Policy has been applied to your handheld then this post may be of assitance to you in clearing the policy:
that worked! thanks!!!
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that worked! thanks!!!
GOod stuff. Being on a mac doesn't help, application loader is for PC only right now.

Also, browsing the web on a blackberry is DIFFERENT than the internet. The web is a protocol, other programs run on many other protocols and ports..

Not all carriers allow free tcp/ip access... 3/4 do... 1/4 don't, and if you are part of this 1/4 MIDPSSH won't work until they enable this..

nonetheless, good work, glad to hear you got it working. it'll all make sense in time. =)
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