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Old 10-22-2004, 10:43 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I have a non-BES T-Mobile account, and I've had no luck downloading MIDlets to my 7230.

Mark, how about starting a sticky thread for feedback from forum members who have been able to install MIDlets OTA? Each message could explain where the file is located and whether or not it ran on a particular model Blackberry. That could save us all a lot of time, as many MIDlets appear to be incompatible apart from our ability to download them or convert them to COD files.

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Old 10-25-2004, 05:57 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I have the 7100t w/ T-Mobile. I have been able to download most of the .jar files and install. Unfortunately the MindSweeper games are very hard to see on my screen so my dream is not quite realized yet.
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Old 01-04-2005, 10:43 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Ya I have the same issue chess, it seems it was designed for the smaller screens and wont stretch out on our screens.
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Old 01-07-2005, 07:47 AM   #24 (permalink)
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The referenced link in your post generates an error message.
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For those of you who cannot do OTA downloads with your carrier yet, you can manually download the .jad/.jar files in Internet Explorer and then use these instructions to convert .jar files to .cod files.
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Old 01-07-2005, 09:10 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Default HOWTO: upload midlets to your Blackberry WITHOUT MDS

Seeing i wrote this at 'another' forum here it is cut and paste:

HOWTO: upload midlets (third party software) to your blackberry for all, even BWC!
I hope the moderators don't mind, but this procedure will show everyone how to upload third party software (midlets) to your blackberry. Midlets are java applications written for phones under the MDIP specification. There are hundreds of midlets already available to try, from network-enabled applications such as telnet, ssh, vnc, instant messagers, to games!

Where to download midlets? using Google, i come up with:

http://midlet.org
http://www.javamobiles.com/midlets/

Search around for more..

Who needs to do this and why? We all want more third party software for our Blackberries, and this adds hundreds of potential titles to our third party software base! The folllowing scenarios are Blackberry users who benefit from this procedure:

a) All blackberry users without BES, such as BWC users
b) Blackberry users who use the redirector
c) Blackberry users with BES lower than 3.6

If you have BES 3.6 or higher running, you can download JAR/JAD midlets directly from your blackberry browser, as the BES does the conversion to COD for you automatically. However, you can still do this procedure if you really need to..

What technical requirements do I need to perform this task:

a) You need to be comfortable using DOS
b) You need to download and install the Blackberry JDE (free from the rim developer website)
c) You need to download and install the Sun Java SDK 1.4 or higher.
d) You do NOT need to know how to use the Blackberry JDE, you merely need some of the DOS apps that come with it.

Here's how to convert and upload midlets (JAR/JAD) files to your Blackberry. This is not for the faint of heart, but any person with reasonable technical computer skills can do it:

a) Download and install the RIM Java Development Environment.
from http://www.blackberry.net/developers/

This software requires the sun Java SDK, so

b) Download and install the Sun Java SDK.
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html
MAKE SURE YOU GET THE SDK! *NOT* THE JRE!

Once both are installed, download the midlets you wish to put on your blackberry. Midlets are BOTH a .jar and .JAD file.

c) For ease of use, move the JAD and JAR files for each midlet you want to convert to the BIN directory in the RIM Java Development Environment directory on your hard drive, for example:
c:\program files\Research in Motion\Blackberry JDE 3.7\bin\

Using RAPC.exe in DOS, convert the midlet to a COD as follows, all on one line (might be easier to make a .bat file out of this)
d) rapc import="c:\Program Files\Research in Motion\Blackberry JDE 3.7\lib\net_rim_api.jar" codename=virca -midlet jad=Virca.jad Virca.jar

Subsitute a different codename, jad and jar filename for whatever application you wish to convert. If successful, it will say no errors and you will have a COD file. The import= is a REQUIRED step.

Using javaloader.exe from a DOS prompt to upload the newly created COD file to your blackberry (in my case a USB blackberry)
e) javaloader -usb load filename.cod

And that's it! An icon will appear in your ribbon. Give it a try and see if it works. Not everything will work, but most do. Mileage wil vary..

Caveats:

a) If you use the application loader at a future date, the loader WILL remove your midlets as they are not known by it. You will probably have to re-upload them again in this case.
b) Make sure you have enough free space to upload the applications..
c) If something goes wrong, Be sure you are familar with the RAPC or Javaloader.exe documentation. If not sure, use google to help you.
d) If you can, Test your Blackberry JDE on a sample application. Compile, and run a sample app in the simulator to ensure that your JDE functions correctly.

Good luck..!
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Is it really hit or miss as to what will work on the blackberry or are games written for certain cell phones more likely to work?

I'm itching to try our some of these on teh blackberry:

http://www.macrospace.com/games/index.shtml
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Old 01-29-2005, 03:17 AM   #27 (permalink)
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OTA download works on nextel, no conversion or BES required!!
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That did it - thank a million
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Old 03-05-2005, 03:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I find most of the irc apps don't work on the telus 7750's even with bes
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Did you try JMIRC?
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Old 03-14-2005, 12:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Another useful thread for people who needs to convert .jad/.jar files to .cod/.alx:
HOWTO: Manually convert .jad/.jar to .cod if you cant do OTA
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Still trying to find time to get up to speed on midlets. But has anyone tried getting the Virgin Radio stuff working on a BB. They have versions for Nokia/Symbian and you can download .SIS file and thought I read that this was Java based. How do you convert a .SIS type file to run on a BB if this is really some sort of JME app?
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Nextel also does OTA (may have already been mentioned). I have the 7510.

I think it would be a great idea for people to post what apps they were able to download OTA and phone model and service provider.
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Still trying to find time to get up to speed on midlets. But has anyone tried getting the Virgin Radio stuff working on a BB. They have versions for Nokia/Symbian and you can download .SIS file and thought I read that this was Java based. How do you convert a .SIS type file to run on a BB if this is really some sort of JME app?
My understanding is that .sis is Symbian. So I think we're out of luck on those unless someone can correct me otherwise.
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Another useful thread for people who needs to convert .jad/.jar files to .cod/.alx:
HOWTO: Manually convert .jad/.jar to .cod if you cant do OTA
Been tryin' to find Scrabble for the Blackberry. None that I see online are advertised as MIDP or J2ME based. Would anyone know of any?

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I'm able to D/L .jad files OTA from my Cingular BWC service. Tried it with Adventurer and got it installed, but it won't run...trying other programs now...
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Verizon does not allow OTA, I am having the error constantly, getting me frustrated, I am not proficient at converting to cod files, even though i have put things in the path as has been suggested I still have issues.
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I know I have asked this before and I do apologize but I recently had my pc crash and lost all my notes, not being proficient at this i need to reconstruct and i am stuck, can anyone please let me know what i am doing wrong here, this is what i have typed in the command window: rapc import="c:\Program Files\Research in Motion\Blackberry JDE 4.0\bin\net_rim_api.jar" codename=jmIrc -midlet jad=jmIrc-0.92.jar

when i proceed and hit enter i get this error code returned: Error: no file to process

As soon as i can get past this I am done and will be document in cd so I do not have to bother anyone else again. My apologies to jibi in advance since he showed me once already what to do though I just cannot duplicate it without my notes.
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awesome on my bb7730 with tmo
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