Stoxx,

You are just using an older version that's all. I released a non color LED version while working on the new features with PaulQ.

If you download the software again you will get the LED test and colored LEDs.

very cool. i love the led colors. is there any way for it to not give me notifications when i go to bed? i tried changing my profile to phone only then sent myself an email. there was no initial notification (just led) but after 1 minute it vibrated. i leave my phone on my desk so the rattling makes quite a bit of noise.

8703e

Well you would have to go into your phone only profile, select blackberry alerts - set out of holster to none and in holster to none. Set it to tone if you want tone but no vibrate.
You will have to do this with all the profiles but default I think they are set to none in phone only.
LED will still work as it is independant of profile when you select "program controls LED". The LED will run all night though as there is no auto shutoff like the existing blackberry LED (after 10 minutes or so).

Logan...

Thanks again for your help! I have d/l new program and everything
works great.. Purchased a Licence as well

Cheers
Ed

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8703e/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

I really like this so far. For those of you that have been using it for a few days now...have you noticed any major battery drain? That's my only concern.

No, I get most messages when they come in so haven't used it much. It's just good to know it's there for ya.

From what I've seen of the 8703 it has a pretty solid battery. The app will sit in the background and since it's event driven should take up very little cpu usage. When it is in notification mode I would imagine it would use up more juice though... I don't think it would use much power compared to the radio or backlight but I'm not sure exactly how much it uses when in notification mode.

So I would imagine there would be some battery drain but not sure if it would be noticeable or not.

Adrian, thanks for a really helpful piece of software! It does pretty much exactly what
I wanted. I had a couple of questions.

I had been using the .jad file downloaded OTA from an earlier post, This has a limited selection of colors for the LED but the ability to set duration and frequency times.
It appears in the application list as version 1.0.

I also found a version from blackberrytoday claiming to be version 1.1 I installed it and found many more colors for the LED, but no option to set the duration and frequency of the LED (and no more LED test). But it also shows up in the application list as version 1.0 (it also is identified by script on the Icon in the home page icon list).

I would like to see both, more colors and ability to set flashing timing, which version is the most up-to-date?
What do you see for future versions of the application (in the short term)? (e.g. what's on your TODO list?)
(If your taking votes/requests, some sort of "only during the hours of x-y on days a,b and d" would be next on my list)

I'm a Blackberry noob: I would also like to understand more about the interaction between BlackBerry Alerts and sleep/wake on the Berry: what kinds of events causes the berry to "wake up" and how does that affect BlackBerry Alerts (programmatically)?

I'm using a Verzion 8703e.

Thanks again, I'll be registering. - Scott

Hi Scott,

Sorry for the confusion over the versions, the latest version has always been the OTA one. The ones on BlackBerryToday and Handango are a bit behind but I'll be updating them.

The reasons I reduced the number of colors is that I was finding through myself and PaulQ that some colors did not show well on the LED so the final colors were:
Red, Green, Cyan (Turqouise), Purple, Blue and White. Yellow was dropped as it looked almost identical to green and Magenta is the same as purple.

So the newest version is the one with an LED test that stays on the screen until you hit escape but has less colors than the original version. Also it has a silent mode setting where just the LED will turn on.

Next on this app will be a simple scheduling component where you can setup time frames when to alert (audio or LED). Also I am looking into some Calendar alerts too but have not had any luck in finding anything I can use.

As for waking up I think I have pretty much solved those issues with timers. The events that I have found that were waking up the device were the backlight dropping to 50% brightness and an incoming phone call. So for some of the blackberries (8700 , 7100) series I am recommending to have missed call alerts on... until I can think of something (I can detect when a phone call is incoming).

Everyone:

I purchased the program and love it. But I have one question.I am a little confused, but I think I already know the answer. I have this really neat ringtone for my missed calls and one for my voicemails. I wanted to be able to use both with BB Alerts. that is, a repeating message for missed calls and a different repeating message for voicemails. But all in the same "NORMAL Profile." I don't think Alerts will let me do that. I am getting the impresssion that I have to use the same repeating alert message for voicemail and missed calls and emails. Is that correct. Can someone suggest how I can get a different repeating alert message using BB Alerts.

Also I am not getting any sort of call log when I have missed calls. All I get is the standard BB alert notification window

What you are asking for is basically to have a separate audible alert for each alert type? So in your profile you would have BlackBerry Alerts - Calls, BlackBerry Alerts - Voicemail. This was discussed a little bit and is certainly possible, what I ended up putting in was separate LED colors for each alert instead.

I can add a separate audio alert for each one and have maybe an option for one alert tone or one per selected alert. I'm just concerned about cluttering up the user interface too much with a million different options; maybe other users have some input.

Which call logs are not showing up, in your messages application or in BlackBerry Alerts? Could be that you have selected to mark all calls as read in BlackBerry Alerts and your blackberry is set to only show missed calls.

FYI you can call back from my program by highlighting the missed call and selecting "call back user" with the trackwheel but apparently if you have a pearl you may have to select "full menu" first. You can also read an email, PIN or sms message the same way.

I'm happy as it is, I just needed something to tell me it needs attention since I last looked at it.

Logan:

Thanks for the quick reply. I do want a separate alert for each alert type. One for missed calls, one for voice mail and one for emails. As I want to know which matter I am being reminded on without necessarily having to view the screen.

If this poses a problem for the other forum members, I will be willing to pay for this additional benefit personally. Please PM me if that is the only way that this can be made possible for me, because for me this distinction in alerts is very important

Charlester

Well I'll take a look at adding it as an option. I believe you have an 8700C according to Handango Charlster. You have played with the option program controls LED right and Assign colors as your model will support his?

If not check that out too as that will tell you what alert it is without pulling it out of the holster (you'll be able to tell by what color the LED is flashing).

Normally customized development is many hundreds of dollars per day so I'll look at adding to the public version unless you want to buy a few hundred copies

Logan:

Yes you are correct. After getting your mesage I went and played with the LED color assignments and I see how that works. That along with the basic alert gives me what I want. this is a fantastic application/ Perhaps the best I have seen so far

Thanks so much Logan

Charlester

I downloaded the trial version and I am giving it a try as I type. For me, a must have before purchase is the option of "level 1" messages given that I filter only critical emails to "level 1" so I can treat them as pages. With this new software, I will be able to selectively allow which emails get repeat notification. Please keep us posted on how soon you can add this option. Thanks again for a simple but needed program.

Logan:

One thing I noticed is if you assign a caller a custom ringtone, you have to except them from a particular profile in order for the custom ring to work. Once you do that, the profile that is assigned the BB Alerts no longer applies to that caller.

Real Life: For calls coming from my office I have a custom ringtone. I have excepted my office calls from the Normal Profile that I use for all other calls. And it is the Normal Profile that I have BB Alerts governing. Since my office calls are excepted from the Normal Profile because they have a custom ringtone, then I cannot get the repeated alert for my office calls.

So, I am forced to choose between having a custom ringtone for my office and other important clients and not having repeated alerts for those most important calls OR having no custom ringtones for my office and impt clients to be able to get repeated alerts if I miss their calls.

Is there any way to make the BB Alerts work with calls that have been assigned custom ringtones

I hope all of this is making sense. I want to be able to distinquish when my office and clients are calling versus general public calls while having the BB Alerts program alert me to their calls like it does for the general public calls

Charlester

OK Charlester, I think I understand. I haven't really tested this scenario but you are adding numbers as exceptions in your profile? In the menu it looks to me like it allows you to choose a custom phone tune but still use a profile (Active profile by default). This is not working for you?
You could try setting the audio type in BB Alerts to audio instead of profile, but you won't get to choose a ringtone that way, it'll be an escalating beep tone.

Logan:

I think you have me wrong. I can select the default profile (let's say NORMAL). Now when you have custom ringtones assigned to the default, you have to check exceptions to the default for those custom ringtones to work. And it does for me. For all of my incoming calls, they are handled by the Norml Profile, which I have assigned BB Alerts too. However, because the calls that have a custom ringtone assigned to them are excepted from the Nomal Profile because they have custom ringtones assigned to them, they cannot have the repeated alerts provided by BB Alerts, because BB Alerts is assigned to the profile.

this creates a quandry because usually the numbers you assign custom ringtones to are important callers whose calls you do not want to miss, thus comes in BB Alerts. But the way it stands now, BB Alerts cannot be used with the numbers you assign custom ringtones to because those calls have to be excepted from the profile you assign BB Alerts to.

To see what I am talking about, assign a custom ringtone from your home or office, and then see if once you except it from the regular ringtone for the profile the handles all of your other calls (and that has BB Alert assigned to it), if you can get alerts for the missed calls from your home or office number.

Of course this does not pose a problem for the repeated alerts for emails and voice mail/ these are working quite well

Charlester

Hi, was wondering if there's anyone out there using this program with a 7130e (4.1.0.359)? I downloaded it from the OTA link in the topmost message, but for the life of me I can't get the LED to work. I selected to let the program manage the LED, but the LED test doesn't do anything, and the LED doesn't light up for any of the alerts. I've tried deleting, resetting, and then reinstalling the program, to no effect. I don't have any other notification programs installed, so I don't think there would be any conflicts there. Any ideas?

Great program. If I can get this LED problem sorted out, I'll plunk down my money for a license. Thanks in advance!

Can you read off what the LED Test says on screen? Should say testing color or LED is not polychromatic or something.

Hi, thanks for checking in Logan. When I activate the LED test, it outputs:

Current Color Test: Tests Complete
LED is multicolored
Testing PURPLE
Complete
Testing BLUE
Complete
Testing GREEN
Complete
Testing RED
Complete
Testing WHITE
Complete

To make things weirder, it turns out that green does work! So, when it says Testing GREEN, the LED immediately turns green, and then immediately turns off when it says Complete.

Thanks again,
Mike M

Charlester maybe you can send me a more detailed explaination about the exception to .

I tested on an 8703 by adding an exception and a custom ringtone. The custom ringtone played while the phone was ringing. After missing the call the BlackBerry Alert tone played every minute like it should.
The exception said Use Profile: Active Profile. Maybe check the BlackBerry Alerts setting in whatever profile you have active. Make sure you have tone in there and volume not on mute.

PaulQ also tested on 8100 and it worked there too.

Logan, maybe I am missing something but it appears for the software to work you must minimize the application as opposed to close. Is it possible to add an option to the menu to indicate "minimize on start-up" and allow the user to select this option as desired. My fear is that after a reboot, purposely or accidently, you have to remember to go into the application and reset to minimize. My concern is I will fail to remember until after a missed event. There was some indicator in the initial prompts about running as a server(?) but when I go into options, applications and select permissions I do not see that option. I am not sure if that would solve the problem anway given I don't know what that option serves?

Additionally, looking forward as to when you can add level 1 messages. When this is added you have a new customer.

Thanks

Logan:

You are right. I went back and tried the BB Alerts with the custom ringtones and it worked perfectly with no problems. Maybe I was sleepy last night and forgot to actually try the program with the custom ringtones. I got into hypothesizing and thought I tried the program with the custom ringtones. Well maybe it is age.

Logan, thanks for going through the trouble of troubleshooting this. I am so glad you were right.

All of my issues are resolved (given that they never actually existed).

I can say unequivocally that this is the best application that I have run across for my everyday use of the blackberry.

By the way fellas: What is this Level 1 messages that everyone is concerned about. I do not know what Level 1 messages are. Please inform

Charlester

Level 1 message is just a high priority message, email only or can sms be level one? Maybe someone can chime in there.

Usually they show up in your inbox with a red exclamation mark beside the message.

Mwyarm, the program actually runs on startup and then minimizes itself. So when you are selecting it on the ribbon you are opening it for a second time and that's why it's coming on screen. You shouldn't have to open it at all if you don't want to see the alert log. You can also minimize while in the program by hitting the escape key.

You can press alt - escape while on your homescreen to verify what apps are running (you will get like a taskbar come up).

Has anyone else had the problem with this program crashing their OS when selecting the "BB Alerts" icon? I'm running the O2 OS on a Pearl.

After the OS crashes, I need to do a battery pull hard reboot and then the boot process stops on the "security check". I then need to uninstall the program using DM in order to get my Pearl back up and running.

I used the OTA update in the first post on this thread. I got the same results using the downloaded zip file on Handango's website.

Thanks for any help.

Level 1 messages are set using the desktop manager and act as filters so the user can use the "to", "from", "subject", and I also think you can select "body" by identifying certain key words in any of the fields identified above to set the record flag to "level 1." Within profiles, you can then select "level 1" emails to get different notifications than regular email. In my case, these become my "pager" notifications except I don't have the repeating notification which you are trying to solve.

Priority 1 is much different and is a different flag which allows email systems to identify the message and sort differently within a view. Blackberry does show priority messages with an exclamation point but does not treat them uniquely in the profiles.

Thanks

p.s. I posted private message to you in your forum inbox. Thanks

i had the SAME problem!!! i figured FORGET THIS PROGRAM!

i installed OTA and immediately my pearl froze and then on EVERY reboot it froze as well. the only thing it could do was receive incoming phone calls. i couldnt even dial out. so i was forced to remove via USB cable.

shame. i wonder whats causing it to do that. id love to try the program

SAME Problem, tried several times to get it to work, stll crashes.

Logan, any ideas on the above issue. It seems that several people are having problems.

From what I have heard it doesn't work on some 8100 Operating Systems, for sure it is not working on the Orange version of the OS, not sure if it is my program or the OS; I think they have since pulled their OS for download.

It seems to work ok on the T-Mobile original and the T-Mobile update. I believe it works on the original Rogers load.

Anyone having problems not on the 8100? I haven't heard of any crashes. Sorry it is difficult for me to troubleshoot it as there are no errors displayed, it just crashes.

Several sources, including some on this site have said that the O2 .64 version and T-Mobile's .64 version are identical. Some have even attempted to upgrade to the TMO version when they are running the O2 version. Destop manager says no update required.

I'd like to hear from anyone that is running this application on the .64 version of the OS. I can understand that it is tough to debug when you have virtually nothing to go on. Is there a way you can install the .64 software and then put some kind of debugger on your application?

Great program. One thing has me stumped, I have it set to repeat alert every minute on my 8700g. It flashes great when an SMS first comes in, but every repeat after has the LED lighting solid, not flashing. Any ideas? Thanks

Peterme, haven't heard of that one yet. So it flashes for a minute and then goes on solid after that, maybe flickers every minute?
Maybe try changing up the LED on/off times in the assing colors menu. Also you could try a reinstall. Try downloading from the OTA link maybe tomorrow (after noon EST), there is a pretty stable version that will be up... added in suport for high priority messages and separate audible alerts through your profiles.

http://74.119.5.86:8080/BlackBerryAlerts.jad

Going to be working on schedules next so you can auto turn off the alerts. Will probably look to mirror the way the device does the auto shutoff time, so would have a weekday time span where alerts would be enable and a weekend time span where alerts would be enabled.

I've got your BlackBerry alert demo . It looks great. How does one purchase the product, how much does it cost, etc.

thanks

Product page is here

Or you can click the link on my signature.

Hi Logan. I tried downloading the new OTA version of the program, to see if it would fix the LED problem I'm having. When the install completed, it gave this message: "Uncaught exception: Module with handle [2210] and index [0] has no application entry point", but when I hit OK, another popup says that the application has installed correctly. The program seems to run fine, but I have the same LED color problem as before, in that only the green LED lights up during the test.

Thank you, Mike M.

Hmm not sure Mike. Yeah your install is fine i've seen that error once before too. I'm not sure what's up with the LEDs on your 7130. I think the only way you will be able to run is without the program controlling the LED. Now though you can select audio as separate profiles and then put custom ringtones in for each alert you chose. So you'll still know what the alert is but will have to wait until it plays the sound.

I use my 'berry on slient mode only when I'm at work, so using different tones isn't an option for me really -- that's why I was so excited about changing the LED color. I'd be more than happy to test out any new versions of the program you might have, or get you any diagnostic information that might be of help, but as is, the program isn't useful to me. Great idea though.