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Old 12-15-2006, 12:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey folks,

We're looking for beta testers for an anti-spam product for the BlackBerry. The only requirement is that testers must use BIS to get email from a pop account. A few of us involved with the development have been using it for several months now and it's been very, very effective (in spite of the recent increase in spam).

Testing will begin very soon, and for the time being this will be a closed beta. Hopefully we'll be able to open it up soon, but we need to see how it scales initially and don't want to get ahead of ourselves.

If you're interested in being a part of the test, please send me a PM and include the following information:

Name:
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Email address you wish to test the spam filtering on (if different):
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Model of BlackBerry:

Thanks, and if anyone has any questions, please post them here for all to see.

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Old 12-15-2006, 04:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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A question that perhaps would be better directed to a qualified psychologist. ;)

I'm happy to answer any questions you have about it, and if you're concerned about giving your email address to a developer, then this probably isn't for you.

I forgot to post the site's address. It's SEE LINK , and we'll be mailing out registration codes to those participating in the test shortly.

Please let me know if I can answer any questions for you.

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Hi Layton,

Where does the filter operate? On the handheld, before or after the mail server? If I have an email account say [email address], will it also filter before the account so I keep spam out of it?

BTW. Thanks for the opportunity
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Hi Layton,

Where does the filter operate? On the handheld, before or after the mail server? If I have an email account say [email address], will it also filter before the account so I keep spam out of it?

BTW. Thanks for the opportunity
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Great question.

Yes, but not yet. (Sorry if it sounds like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth!) Implementation for the BlackBerry is ready for beta; desktop implementation has a few kinks to work out and is still in alpha. It's something we're working on (and are already testing internally - I've been on it for a couple of months now and besides a few bugs it's been a lifesaver), but it's not quite ready yet for a larger audience.

If you're interested in testing the BlackBerry portion of it now, send me your information. If not, I'll keep you in mind for the desktop beta.

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Layton - I gather that since you say "use BIS to get email from a pop account" that this won't work on spam that's being sent directly to my [email address] address? That's where I've been having the biggest problem lately with spam. My pop email from other providers already has some pretty good spam filtering in place, so another filter for that isn't really very useful. Spammers have really started targetting the blackberry.net addresses lately though, and something to filter that would be of great value.
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Thanks for the response Layton, but it didn't completely answer my question.

Does it operate in the Blackberry handheld? If so, does it handle all my email accounts (4 by last count).
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Layton - I gather that since you say "use BIS to get email from a pop account" that this won't work on spam that's being sent directly to my [email address] address? That's where I've been having the biggest problem lately with spam. My pop email from other providers already has some pretty good spam filtering in place, so another filter for that isn't really very useful. Spammers have really started targetting the blackberry.net addresses lately though, and something to filter that would be of great value.
You're correct.

We are working on something that'll help people protect their carrier.blackberry.net accounts (and I'll notify you when it's ready for testing), but unfortunately we can't just filter out the spam due to the fact that it's not a pop account.

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Thanks for the response Layton, but it didn't completely answer my question.

Does it operate in the Blackberry handheld? If so, does it handle all my email accounts (4 by last count).
Sorry, I misunderstood your question.

No, the filtering doesn't happen locally on the BlackBerry. And yes, it'll handle all of your pop accounts - I'm at around 8 right now (if only TMo would allow more...) and it's working well.

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GMKxxx8211;If you're at all interested in being a part of the test, please send me your information via PM and we'll get you on it.
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If I get one more advertisement for xxxxxx on my blackberry I am going to throw it away. currently I get about a dozen spam messages or more per day.
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What is worse is when someone has your email in their contacts list and you get over 200 undeliverable emails a day from someone sending spam from your email addy.
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Hi Sheldon,

Yup, that sort of thing is why we came up with this. We've filled our tester pool, but we expect to be open for business near the end of January. I'll announce it here when that happens.

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Layton,

I don't have too big a problem with getting and deleting the spam since the messages I receive are just "headers only". What does bother me is the fact that Spam eats up my limited data plan.

Would I be correct to assume that your program will not eliminate the data being "consumed" by the spam it filters?
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Layton,

I don't have too big a problem with getting and deleting the spam since the messages I receive are just "headers only". What does bother me is the fact that Spam eats up my limited data plan.

Would I be correct to assume that your program will not eliminate the data being "consumed" by the spam it filters?
Happily, you would be incorrect.

Messages marked as spam will never be transmitted to your BB, so you won't have to expend any precious kB on that stuff.

I'll describe how it works. HamBerry functions as a proxy which sits between RIM's servers and your POP server of choice. When RIM asks our servers for one of your messages, our servers contact your POP server, pick up the email and filter it. If it's spam, a text string (e.g. "[SPAM]") is prepended to the email's subject before it is passed through to RIM. Then a filter you've set up in your BB web client will prevent that email from being passed through to your BB, saving you data and time.

What's this mean? Nothing to install on your BB, nothing to run on your home or office PC. No intervention needed by either your email hosting provider or RIM. You just have to configure HamBerry so it knows about your POP accounts, do a quick tweak to each account in your BB web client, and you're on your way.

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