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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-08-2007, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SanFrancisco
FANTASTIC PROGRAM. I am donating and I hope other BBF members have too.
This saves wear and tear on my cases that I have always had to pull apart to do the battery reset.
FANTASTIC PROGRAM..... oh, already said that.
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Thanks! Much appreciated. 
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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02-08-2007, 09:04 PM
Hey I donated, where's my limited edition signed copy in D&G gold leaf like you promised, metsfan? Man, !@#^nig developers...
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CrackBerry Addict
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02-08-2007, 09:33 PM
Just donated also. Thank you!!!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-09-2007, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rivviepop
Hey I donated, where's my limited edition signed copy in D&G gold leaf like you promised, metsfan? Man, !@#^nig developers...
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It's uhh... in the mail. Thanks for the donation. 
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New Member
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02-09-2007, 08:09 AM
Absolutely love the program - will donate also....
I did have a Javaexception error after I installed it - and tried to run it the first time. This was resolved by pulling the battery.  It runs fine now.
Thanks again!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-12-2007, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rivviepop
When you get a chance, can you use a watch and post your startup times like mine? More for my personal curiosity, as you aren't the first person to comment their Pearl reboots in a minute or whatever...
I was beta testing another app (I do the beta testing thing on GetJar.com and submit reports) and it locked me up so hard (hard, I say!) that almost required a battery pull (*) -- I ended up doing a SoftReset anyways just in case, and got to watch that fabulous spinning hourglass.
(*) amazingly I let it sit long enough and the RIM OS eventually caught it as a nasty bad app and shut it down on it's own, about 3 seconds before I was going to yank the battery.
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Soft reset - 0953:00 Reset
0954:01 Security Certificates
0954:06 EDGE
Battery Pull 0957:00 Bat pulled
0957:55 Security Certificates
0958:13 EDGE
It's always funnier when it happens to someone else!!!
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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02-17-2007, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rivviepop
1m 55s: first initial screen 'blip' that means it's almost loaded up
2m 21s: that blip to a bright white screen right before the home screen shows
2m 29s: home screen, radio attached to cell tower
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I just applied the DST patch, and sitting at home I could do a battery pull to compare the times (yeah took me awhile).
1m 18s: that blip to a bright white screen right before the home screen
1m 30s: radio and lowercase 'edge' attached
...so, like everyone else experiences there's *something* different about a soft vs. hard (battery) reset - this is the same hardware, same OS, and same apps (well more or less, few new things) installed.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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02-19-2007, 10:37 AM
Who cares how long it takes... at least I don't have to pull apart my rubberized case every time I want to reset...
Great app!
BlackBerry 8100 -- New BlackBerry user and loving it!
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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02-19-2007, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mjwood0
Who cares how long it takes... at least I don't have to pull apart my rubberized case every time I want to reset...
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Thanks for these excellent words of wisdom, I don't know how I could have survived without them. Wow. The point here is that we're having a discussion that this *does* matter to us, and we're discussing why a soft reset would take longer than a battery pull -- it may or may not be of use to a future version of Soft Reset, but it's knowlege gained nonetheless. Perhaps with these inputs metsfan may discover a newer/alternate way of doing a reset that's even better than it currently is, which is the whole point.
But we're glad you don't care! It was worth spamming everyone to let them know, huh? I don't know what's worse - threadjacking or threadspamming.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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Soft reset for 8700 Lobby now!!! -
02-19-2007, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by metsfan
At the moment, no. There may be a way for me to have it automatically push the "Reset Now" button when that window pops up, but I think there's no way to stop it from coming up. I'll look into it automatically pushing the button.
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Anyway to convince you to make one for the 8700XXX? I have an R(ogers). Any other 8700 users out there??? 
pep8700r
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-19-2007, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ron.pepper@sympatico.ca
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Have you tried it? I don't see why it won't work on the 8700 as is.
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CrackBerry Addict
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02-20-2007, 07:08 AM
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8700 can be reset from the keypad, alt-shft-del I believe.
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02-23-2007, 08:14 PM
1:55 to Security Certificates
0:17 more to EDGE
However, this won't possibly break the battery cover!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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Soft reset for 8700 Lobby now!!! -
02-23-2007, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by metsfan
Have you tried it? I don't see why it won't work on the 8700 as is.
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Tried it, I get "Symbol "code module manager.promptforresetifrequired"not found.
Dont know what that means but it aint good!!
pep8700r
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-23-2007, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadRider
8700 can be reset from the keypad, alt-shft-del I believe.
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Negatory on the alt shift del strategy!! Does not work on my 8700R.
pep8700r
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CrackBerry Addict
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02-23-2007, 08:38 PM
Maybe it's alt-shift-backspace (don't have an 8700 anymore). Anyway, it is described in one of the stickys.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-24-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadRider
Maybe it's alt-shift-backspace (don't have an 8700 anymore). Anyway, it is described in one of the stickys.
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Thanks for alerting me to this it's ALT CAPS DEL. No more taking off the oh so shaky loose cover.
Thanks again 
pep8700r
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02-27-2007, 02:35 PM
Does anyone know how I can make it work? When I tried to delete aa_DeleteToReset, I get a message saying I can't delete since it is required by IT policy application control....
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
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02-27-2007, 02:53 PM
SoftReset no longer needs to be deleted to work. If you install the latest version in the first post of this thread you should have an icon on the home screen that will allow you to reset the device. Works well.
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02-27-2007, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
SoftReset no longer needs to be deleted to work. If you install the latest version in the first post of this thread you should have an icon on the home screen that will allow you to reset the device. Works well.
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When I tried to run the app and choose the reset button, it gave me a message that aa_DeleteToReset already exists and gave me instructions on deleting it.
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BBF Moderator
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02-27-2007, 03:22 PM
It sounds like you may have an IT policy on your device restricting you. Do you know what all your IT policy restricts on your device?
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02-27-2007, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
It sounds like you may have an IT policy on your device restricting you. Do you know what all your IT policy restricts on your device?
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How do I find out? I am using the blackberry through by company's BES.... Do I need to pay the IT folks a visit?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-28-2007, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by metsfan
Have you tried it? I don't see why it won't work on the 8700 as is.
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I just tried it on my 8700c with the latest OS and here is what i got...

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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-28-2007, 03:13 PM
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I guess it doesn't work, then. That function has only been in the OS since 4.2.
Someone posted up above in this thread that ALT-CAP-DEL will reset the 8700, though.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-28-2007, 03:32 PM
yup it does...
~Michael
9000/BOLD
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CrackBerry Addict
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02-28-2007, 09:59 PM
[quote=mikadad]I just tried it on my 8700c with the latest OS and here is what i got...
You don't need it on an 8700...you can reboot from the keypad...the Pearl cannot.
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03-01-2007, 06:27 PM
Works great on my 8800.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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soft reset for 7100i -
03-03-2007, 11:46 PM
Does anyone have a link to software for a soft reset on the 7100i?
GDBerryuser
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03-03-2007, 11:51 PM
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Does anyone have a link to software for a soft reset on the 7100i?
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Google told me this: "On a BlackBerry 7100 model, you can perform a reset by pressing Alt-RightShift-Backspace" -- try that, does it work? (just trying to help)
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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03-04-2007, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by metsfan
Run the application from the home screen/applications. It has an icon now! Click the big Reset button, and then choose "Reset Now" when it asks you to reset. If you choose "Reset Later", you'll have to delete a code module to force a reset. Clicking the big Reset button again will give you those instructions.
Click Cancel instead if you run the app but don't actually want to reset. 
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I find this a little hard to believe. Regardless of all of these complaints on the Pearl, RIM has not done anything to resolve it, but instead a BB user like yourself have come up with partial solution (which I think is great , btw). Hello, RIM, is this issue being addressed at all? Many Fortune 500 execs carry BB's, but how are these big corporate guys coping with losing their emails? I guess 8700 and other models don't share this problem, and this may be unique to the Pearl.
As for this software,
Let me try to understand this. So your software will only replace the process of battery removal, AFTER call logs and messages have ALREADY disappeared, right? With your great programming ability, will you be coming out with a software that would get down the core problem to nip it in the bud?
This is my 3rd Pearl, and it is doing it again after 2 weeks. This has the OS .71 which people say is the latest. This problem is quite annoying. I can't afford to lose my important SMS texts and call logs.
Cheers
Last edited by JJB236 : 03-04-2007 at 01:09 AM.
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03-04-2007, 12:28 AM
Great first post! This has nothing to do with Metsfan's app or this thread.
There are lots of threads out there regarding your problem. I have a Pearl, with tons of aftermartket apps, pictures, etc. and don't lose emails and phone call logs. When that happens it's usually a memory problem. How much memory do you have free?
You can search for "memory leak" on the forums and pull up lots of info on this issue.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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03-04-2007, 01:15 AM
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Great first post! This has nothing to do with Metsfan's app or this thread.
There are lots of threads out there regarding your problem. I have a Pearl, with tons of aftermartket apps, pictures, etc. and don't lose emails and phone call logs. When that happens it's usually a memory problem. How much memory do you have free?
You can search for "memory leak" on the forums and pull up lots of info on this issue.
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Thanks.
I think my comment to the programmer asking questions about the benefits of his program warrant my post being here
This is my 3rd Pearl. And I had this one for approx. 2 weeks. Right after this leak kicked in this afternoon, I checked the memory, and it was at 5881048 Bytes. I did a battery pull, and now at 15881048 Bytes.
I'm glad that some of you don't share this problem.
Cheers.
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03-04-2007, 01:20 AM
Metsfan, you're a genius.
It works well. At least, this will resolve wear-and-tear issues with the back cover after each memory leak occurrence.
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03-04-2007, 01:41 AM
I have it on mine and it does work well but it's one more app taking up your valuable space right now. Your issue is memory. I posted in another thread what to do. You need to shed....That's what causes your messages to drop.
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03-04-2007, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
I have it on mine and it does work well but it's one more app taking up your valuable space right now. Your issue is memory. I posted in another thread what to do. You need to shed....That's what causes your messages to drop.
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Thanks for the tip. I'm thinking that clearing even logs may help shed.
Cheers.
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03-08-2007, 09:39 AM
FYI this APP does work on the 8800 as well  !!! Was glad as I liked it on my 8100, some other 3rd party apps that I had on the 8100 have had some issues with the 8800 but I guess thats to be expected until developers catch up.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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03-09-2007, 11:25 PM
thanks! this works great!.
i wish this was avail, before i broke the battery door latch on my phone =(
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03-18-2007, 05:54 PM
Awesome little program. Donation was no problem! Come forward my BBF brethren!! Support our after market software developers!! 
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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03-20-2007, 09:23 PM
Apple hat heute das iPhone vorgestellt, das drei Produkte in einem kleinen und leichten Handheld-Gerät vereint: ein revolutionäres Mobiltelefon!
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03-20-2007, 09:38 PM
any updates?
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