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Old 07-29-2007, 01:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been playing around with the "tunebite" demo. I was seeking a program which would help me convert DRM, itunes files to a format for my bb.

In terms of audio, the quality seems a bit better when I burn the music to a CD, as opposed to the program. Still okay.

My main issue is the video. It is pretty decent. It will lock up slightly at times, but does the job.

I was using torrents before, which ran perefectly but my concern was the legality of using share programs.

Any other video converter programs like tunebite which will convert itunes to a format that is acceptable to bb devices, such as .wmv, avi, etc.?
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I have been playing around with the "tunebite" demo. I was seeking a program which would help me convert DRM, itunes files to a format for my bb.

In terms of audio, the quality seems a bit better when I burn the music to a CD, as opposed to the program. Still okay.

My main issue is the video. It is pretty decent. It will lock up slightly at times, but does the job.

I was using torrents before, which ran perefectly but my concern was the legality of using share programs.

Any other video converter programs like tunebite which will convert itunes to a format that is acceptable to bb devices, such as .wmv, avi, etc.?
I don't have any personal experience of converting iTunes files, but look at this program: SUPER . as it converts many files and works great for me. It's free as well. It might work for you.
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I don't have such an app in mind, but I'll throw out that maybe your quality with Tunebite is because they re-encode the content instead of transcoding it, resulting in an exponentially lossy format when you're all done. Try and look for an app that advertises transcoding from one format to the other and you should maintain good quality.

As an example, there's a commandline linux/unix (might work on OS X?) tool 'transcode' for doing just this, http://www.transcoding.org/ for more info.
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Thank you for the information.
I did look at Super and it looked a bit complicated to me and frustrating after several failed attempts.

As far as transcoding, you taught me a new word. I will definitely look again
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As far as transcoding, you taught me a new word. I will definitely look again
Ahh, cool - lemme try and give the 2 second primer so you can hit the ground running.

transcoding: taking an already compressed (usually already lossy, like MP3) file and simply shuffling the digital bits around to change it into a different format (like to an AAC file). A slight of hand trick, if you will.

re-encoding: taking an already compressed file, decompressing it (i.e. MP3 -> raw audio WAV file) then recompressing it in the new (usually lossy) format (i.e. WAV -> AAC). The brute force method, if you will.

Re-encoding works with almost anything - you decompress the source into a common format then recompress (incurring more loss) into a new format, so there are a ton of programs which are available for all operating systems. Very common.

Transcoding is a lot more (programming) work, and you can't always transcode from format X to format Y - it depends on the specific program. Not as many transcoding programs are available due to the higher code complexity, but transcoding is always a better choice since you don't incur the same quality loss as re-encoding.
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I don't have such an app in mind, but I'll throw out that maybe your quality with Tunebite is because they re-encode the content instead of transcoding it, resulting in an exponentially lossy format when you're all done. Try and look for an app that advertises transcoding from one format to the other and you should maintain good quality.

As an example, there's a commandline linux/unix (might work on OS X?) tool 'transcode' for doing just this, http://www.transcoding.org/ for more info.
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Wow, talk about a misconfigured Apache -- go ahead and delete the trailing "/" and it does a redirect to another URL: Transcode_Wiki: Transcode Wiki

(bad apache admin, bad! )
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I again cut my losses on the "Super" program. Too complicated.

I will try your link above.
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I will try your link above.
The link above is as reference only (lots of docs, FAQs, etc.) regarding transcoding. As a Windows user it's most likely useless to you as far as the actual program is concerned - I only included it as a resource in your search for the One True App.
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Thank you. I am now trying Alive Video Creator, which converts the video in the minimize mode, so I can work on other apps. It also seems to give better quality. With tunebite, you had to leave everything open, so the program could capture the video. Details to come.
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