For what its worth, I sent the following email to the developer yesterday:
The following is the response that I got back:
So since I have not posted much recently (pre 12/10) on the thread, is iCall Lite ready for "human consumption" or are there still major bugs that folks are experiencing? I am still on B&W v1.29 and am quite happy, but would like to take advantage of the additional features for truly blocking unknown callers with the busy signal and other things. Feedback would be great from current iCall Mgr lite users, thanks!

those were the only comments i had. by the way, where did you purchase your b&w list from?

i'll be looking for the new versions this weekend...will they be handango?

Got B&W from handango (version previous to 1.29 w/code), then upgraded from the download site, see #114 above to 1.29

He told me, via email, this weekend.

Wow, I just read this entire thread. I have B&W V. 1.29 and I love it, but if the piece of software being talked about here turns out, I think it would be awesome.

Did he decide what version us B&W owners would be able to upgrade to for free? Or how we might go about that?

Would someone break down the three versions of Icall manager to me? Obviously light is just that, but what are differences between pro and ex? Pro the best?

Thanks guys!

Meh!

No luck.

Just upgraded to Black and Whitelist 1.30 which was just released. Looks like it fixes some bugs and changes the default icon.

However, it still says I am using 1.29 when I go to the upgrade check even though I am running 1.30!

I just downloaded the new version and it looks a lot better in my opinion.

Is Iberrysoft.com letting anyone else download iCall Manager? Everytime I go there it says product ID not found? I wish this would get updated with a less buggy version, because I simply love this piece of software..hmm Anyone heard anything else new? I like B and W but this is just like way better UI so..
Thanks!

Meh!

Is Iberrysoft.com letting anyone else download iCall Manager? Everytime I go there it says product ID not found? I wish this would get updated with a less buggy version, because I simply love this piece of software..hmm Anyone heard anything else new? I like B and W but this is just like way better UI so..
Thanks!

Meh!

Looks like new versions have been posted. I am mulling the idea of uninstalling B&W and going with iCall Manager Lite. If anyone else is on lite, let me know. When I get the nerve up, I guess I will try (last time I tried it looped and made my phone perform continued ringing and doing other things over and over and over forcing a battery pull)

Unfortunately none of the software, iCall Manager, B&W, or BerryBlocker work with my BlackBerry (Verizon 8130). Bummer...

I just installed i Call Light ver 1.01 on blackberry 8830.

so far so good but when a call is blocked the phone makes a soft beep....i'd rather no beep at all. I don't see any options to silence this. my phone is set on silent ring but doubt thats related anyway.

ideas?

I have the same phone/carrier.

So are you saying this is the first version of ICall Light where it blocks with a busy signal and does it correctly?

No, its the latest version from web site and I am not refering to what the blocked caller hears. I mean that when a call comes in that is going to be blocked my 8830 makes a soft single beep and pop up says missed call. I'd rather my phone not make any noise at all.

on another topic. is it still true that password protecting the full version iCall log is not going to happen?

Thanks

At this time there is no way to tell if a call is a blocked one or a really missed call.

Best,
Jaime

Wirelessly posted (BB Pearl: BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Did he completely pull the full iCall off the shelf?

Still not what I am asking. I want the phone to be silent.......

even when I set the phone to silent, if a call comes in that is blocked then the phone beeps with the missed call pop up.

seriously this defeats the purpose of the program. I dont want any interuption at all. For example, I am a physician and a beep during a patient exam is annoying no matter how soft.


is this a 8830 issue only? anyone else?

another possible small bug report. I installed the program initially with full permissions and it works. I went back and changed permissions to the ones mentioned in the document. Afterwards the phone hangs on any blocked call. set back to full and it works.

Mine has always beeped when blocking a call with all versions of BlackandWhiteList as well as the beta versions of ICall...so it seems like it never gives you the option to silence it.

Then again, I am using the same series phone as you. It could be silent on another phone like the 8700, but its pretty doubtful and that it beeps for all series of phones.

Anyone else want to confirm this?

I have been a long time user of Black and White List and have tried a couple betas of iCall. On an old phone of mine (7100i) there was always a small tone preceeding a blocked phone call. I am now using an 8100 and do not get any sound at all with either the Black and White List or the iCall.

On another note- the part that has me interested in iCall is the Block with Busy Signal Heard. This option was not working in the last version I tried. It would block the call but one ring was heard on the other end. Not a true busy signal. Maybe I am misinterpreting this function? Otherwise I think Black and White list is much easier to use...

You are totally right, it should give the user a busy signal. Unfortunately this still doesn't work on most models since ICall is still buggy. This is why many people have been waiting with baited breath for a stable release of ICall.

While BlackandWhiteList is a great program and stable, it does not give you any other option for blocking besides sending straight to voice mail.

If I remember correctly, once ICall is stable there should be other blocking options besides the busy signal. I can't wait!

Any word on iCall folks? Is the busy signal in place yet, any ETAs? I am also anxiously awaiting that feature!!!!!

Is it me or the icall light key generator isn't working?

Best,
Jaime

I have developed a rapport with the developer, and he has been very candid with me. I thought I would share and email response that transpired last night between he and I for all of you out here wondering whats up with the apps, just like I did...


I emailed him...

He emailed me back...
So make your assumptions and whatnot based on this, hope it helps!!!!

I've been using B&W List and i,CallManager throughout it's various stages, and in it's primary function, it's worked in that it'd send unwanted calls to voicemail. The various iterations of Busy Signal, Hang Up, etc., never did work correctly for me, and also I'd still have a Missed Call indicator and/or Voicemail indicator.

While this was good enough for some (personally, I don't have a pressing need for a call rejector at the moment), people who were truly being harrassed and needed something like this, did not need/want voicemails left, didn't want indicators, and pretty much didn't really want to know that a blacklisted person had even called.

Well, last night I noticed an upgrade version of i,CallManager Light, version 1.0.3 and downloaded it and tested it.

When set on Hang Up for a blacklisted caller, there is a very faint beep and the inbound call screen flashes briefly -- but you pretty much have to be looking right at the phone to notice -- but it now really does hang up -AND- there is now no missed call indicator. While you can find out if a blacklisted person had called by looking at the BB call log or by looking at i,CallManager's internal call log, it's no longer apparent unless you go out of your way to check. Rejection of Unknown and Private callers works too (it has for a while), and there is no missed call indicator for those either.

While the Busy Signal function sends the caller to voicemail (undesired), the Hang Up function does not, but the caller will hear the hangup click and get a network busy signal, so I see no reason to not use Hang Up instead. Switching back between profiles and various lists is fairly intuitive now... or at least it seems so to me because I have been playing with the app for a while now but I'd imagine i,CallManager Light will appeal to many now, new user or novice alike.

Those that tried earlier buggy versions and uninstalled it while waiting for a stable working version, this may now be it. There are also no more long delays/freezes after a call.

This is on an 8800c on Rogers, running 4.2.1.101 -- YMMV.

Now the lecense generator is working without problems.

Best,
Jaime

Klotar, I second your comments. The apps have come a long way since inception. I would not say full circle quite yet, but many improvements have been made and are very noticable. As he sends me more, I will post back out.

Once my 8800 comes in, I will be upgrading to iCall Manager myself!

Against my better judgement, I tried this app (Lite)out. After setting up a blacklist profile, set to hang up on unknown callers and testing it out, it locked my Curve (vibrated according to my profile, didn't show any call coming in, just locked). Restarted the Curve and uninstalled the app.

No documentation, sketchy history as evidenced in this thread, poor website and information, and a developer that can't remember their password to a website? Stay far away from this one.

Did you set your permissions to allow access to the phone logs, etc.?

Yep.

I just addded iCallManager Light and deleted BW List. Question - with BW list I could view the entries on the blacklist. Is there a way to do this with iCallManager light?

Never mind my earlier message. I found the entries for the blacklist but it doesn't seem to be working. I added my work number in the blacklist. Verfied active profile = blacklist. Verfied that filter rule blacklist is referencing the blacklist and the number is in the blacklist. Reject by: I have tried both "Send busy tone" and "Hang up" but they seem to do the same thing. My goal is to avoid the calls going to voicemail. Both of these options send the call to voice mail. Am I doing something wrong here?

Back to B&W list for me. iCallManager light just didn't seem to be working for me. I tried to block my office number and a number from a conference phone and it worked once but after that they rang through. I'll check it out after the next update.

I just did some more tests, this time from work, and the hangup function is working perfectly, the caller isn't sent to voicemail and there is no indication that anyone called (no call notification icon, no flashing led, no Missed Call dialog box), just the phone logs and i,CallManager logs.

I see that it's the 83xx users having difficulty. I see from the webpage that it supports OS 4.2.x and 4.x.x, where I am guessing that 4.x.x means 4.1.x and 4.0.x. If that is true (I'm guessing 100% here), then I am not sure where that leaves 4.3 OS's (which, the Curves run, right?).

Edit: nm, I read elsewhere that Curves run 4.2.2 -- I don't have one, so wasn't sure.

Yes, the hangup feature works perfectly with the newest version. No record of the call anywhere.

I have been following this software since it was first released.

- I am still waiting on a basic lite version of the original BW without all the fancy bells and whistles yet without the bugs.

- Why the dev is working on 2,3,4 or whatever OTHER programs at the same time while this is still far from bugless is beyond me. Keep your attention to one thing and get it done then move on.

- and... the kicker... by the time this is finally bugless 4.3 OS will be available and I guarantee we see.... drum roll.... bugs.

well... just downloaded and installed icall light with reg key. Double checked permissions... added a friend to the blacklist and tried both busy, mute, and hangup... NONE of them worked. Wow, when will this ever be a working program?

If nothing at all worked, I'd have to say it's not configured correctly. Now don't take that the wrong way, I mean if it doesn't work properly and has bugs, I can understand that; but if it doesn't work at all, something else must be not set up right.

Basically, you first choose Switch Active Profile and choose, say Blacklist, scroll down and click OK. Then you edit profiles and choose the one that is active, in this case Blacklist. With Filter Rule highlighted, click menu key and select Edit Groups. Click menu again and select New Group (you can use an existing one but I prefer a new one so I can tell what it is by name). Add your friend to test with in, using Change/View member and Add member, etc. (sounds like you did this part).

Then escape back out to the Profile Properties screen and with Filter Rule highlighted, click Select Groups. If this option doesn't appear, escape out once and go back in. Make sure a check mark is next to the group you created with your friend in it. Click menu and Save.

Now the Filter Rule should show Blacklist yourgroupname (1), where yourgroupname is the group you created, and (1) is the number of friends in that group. Select Reject By Hangup for now, and set unknown/private to what you wish.

Settings are saved automatically at each screen except where noted (the group selection).

I apologize for the lousy instructions but hopefully it leads you in the right direction. Again, sure we all understand bugs but even the very first versions of i,Call did something -- maybe it didn't hang up the way one likes or it sent them to voicemail, but I never did see a version that did nothing at all and I probably ran every version except 1.0.2 (if there was one, then I missed it).

Totally understand, but you basically just reviewed everything I did - I just didn't take the time to write it all out. I even double checked the app perms to make sure those were set correctly. Added my friend who was next to me, had him call a few times, normal rings on his phone then to voicemail all while mine was ringing as normal. Even did a battery pull and tried all options again (hangup, mute, busy). Same result for everytime. Even the older BW's at least stopped the call and did something.