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Old 06-08-2005, 09:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am about to finally pull the trigger and move over from the PPC platform. Rogers here in Canada is selling the 7290 (quad-band with BT) for only CDN$99 (with a contract, but that's o.k.).

The 2 things that have really been keeping me back from the BB platform are my extensive use of ewallet and ListPro. I have yet to come across a similar program on the BB platform but now it seems as if both MiniSafe and/or Cryptmagic may do the trick as an ewallet replacement.

Has anyone tried the 2 and can anyone provide any comparison or comments? I think Cryptmagic is a little more expensive but they both now seem to have desktop components.
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I was also an eWallet and ListPro user for years. I have CryptMagic now, and while it's decent, it's kind of slow. My biggest issue with it is the fact that when Desktop Manager backs up and restores the device (like when upgrading the OS), CryptMagic data never gets restored. I have to go into Backup and Restore/Advanced and restore it manually. Other than that, it does the job. I've never used MiniSafe, but I'm leery of any v1 product.

After several months of looking, I still haven't found a substitute for ListPro. If any developers are reading this thread, I think a good general-purpose list program would be well received in the BlackBerry community.
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ListPro and ewallet are 2 programs that have literally kept me from switching out the PPC platform
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If you don't max out your ListPro or eWallet, you may be happy with the four or five now available for BlackBerry. The software are:

BlackBerryOS 4 Password Keeper (basic)
Dynoplex eZcase
MiniSafe
CryptMagic

If somebody has tried out all 4 of them for comparision, please let me know which one is your favourite!
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If you don't max out your ListPro or eWallet, you may be happy with the four or five now available for BlackBerry. The software are:

BlackBerryOS 4 Password Keeper (basic)
Dynoplex eZcase
MiniSafe
CryptMagic

If somebody has tried out all 4 of them for comparision, please let me know which one is your favourite!
I've tried Password Keeper, and it's really too basic, unless you're only using it for passwords. However, if you're determined not to spend any money for a wallet app, you could make this one work. Unfortunately, none of these programs will replace ListPro. A while back, I sent an email to the developer of ShopMagic suggesting that it wouldn't be all that difficult to start with that app, strip the shopping stuff out, and turn it into a reusable checklist application (ListMagic...catchy, no?), but I never heard back. ListPro does a lot more than just reusable checklists, but that would be a good start.
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Good point about Dynoplex eZcase. Mark or others, comparisons between Dynoplex eZcase, CryptMagic and MiniSafe? I too am looking to replace eWallet which was one of my most important PocketPC apps (as was ListPro).
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I've been using Cryptmagic and have been pretty happy with it. I haven't noticed a speed issue with the program (other than the normal slowness of the 7100 BB). I ultimately chose that program over others as it doesn't confine you to storing data just within limited fields (i.e., I have some entries that area paragraph of text, or a table I pasted in).

On a side note, has anyone tried the desktop companion for Cryptmagic? It just came out, and I'm wondering how well it works.

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I am using the Desktop companion for Cryptmagic and it is working well. Not as good as Ewallet yet, but getting there.
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I use EZsafe, and I have to say that in a tech support role having all my customer logins on my hip (securely) is one of my top used bb apps now that I have it in my rutine use, what a time saver!!
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I have DL the trial version of CryptoMagic, both desktop and Handheld App. So far, I am pretty happy with it. I like the way the PPC platform displays information on the handheld itself, but I think that is just a platform specific issue. This may be a suitable replacement for ewallet.

Now if I could only find a replacement for ListPro, I'll be set!
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This is the application I most missed so have looked at all four. The BB Password Keeper did not have enough fields. I did a trial of EZSafe when it first came out and it had some companion website to enter my pesronal data (Yikes!) if I remember right.

Right now I have Crypt Magic and MiniSafe loaded on the BB trying to decide between them.

MiniSafe is winning for me. It only has five fields plus a notes field to enter data in about each item but for each type of data field You can edit the names of those five fields to show what you need for that record. On the desk top version, if you put in the URL as one for the fields and that record is selected the website is direct clickable. It does not auto fill in the user name and password fields on the website like the Pocket PC Ewallets yet. This is on my wish list.

The other thing I like about the BB version of MiniSafe is that in the list mode you can view the item name and one field. I use this for a lot of records like frequent flyer info where when I open MiniSafe I want to see the Item name and the FF# right in the first screen. On CryptMagic I have to open the item or try to put the FF# in the item name and get the right amount of spaces to seperate it from the name. The BB Minisafe does not allow clicking on the website but I can copy and paste into the browser to get to those websites that for security I do not want in my bookmarks.

The sync of MiniSafe need a little work because it is not automatic. A screen pops after connecting the BB asking if you want to transfer recod from the BB to the PC or from the PC to BB but it does not appear to reconcile if you have mande changes in both PC and BB. Just have to be careful I guess. The other problem with sync is that you need to enter both the PC MiniSafe password and the BB MiniSafe password on the pop screen before it will sync, a little too much security! Maybe an option could be offered if you wanted to set up remeber me and auto one way sync? Also if you do not want to take the time to fill in the passwords adn tell it which direction to sync, you have to manually click cancel in order for IntelliSync to finish, maybe a time out if not action on that screen in ten seconds it should proceed.

Just thoughts so far on both programs. I am sure I have not learned every trick with both programs but will test them for a few more days with a few records before I pick one and put all my records in it.
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Great review Workingmen

I am looking forward to your final pick a few days from now and your reasons why.
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I have also been trying MiniSafe for the last week or so since the desktop version came out. I agree with Workingmen's review overall.

I like that you can customize the fields for different types of records and that you can display two fields in the list on the handheld. I don't like that there is no automatic two-way reconciliation yet, so the sync is not as automated as I'd like (but this is a version 1, so it'll hopefully get better). I actually like that it prompts for passwords before syncing. The import from SplashID worked pretty well with some care, although I did have to touch records that were not the standard "personal" or "business" categories.

Overall, I think that this is the replacement for SplashID that I've been looking for.
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Default Guenter, can you elaborate on Splash ID import

Can you give more details on what worked or didn't. I have about 15 Categories with items ranging from the 1-6 custom fields, plus notes. How did it do with the field names for each category? Did the notes come over ok? Is there a mapping function for the import? Thanks for your input
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Can you give more details on what worked or didn't. I have about 15 Categories with items ranging from the 1-6 custom fields, plus notes. How did it do with the field names for each category? Did the notes come over ok? Is there a mapping function for the import? Thanks for your input
I did not have my categories set up before I did the import, so that was probably my problem.

There are 5 customizable fields in MiniSafe (not including type or category), and they came through fine (although with the wrong labels sometimes because I had custom types that I also hadn't set up first). There is a mapping function that shows you how fields will map on the import, and you should take some care with that.

I'm also a little paranoid, so I checked them all after the import anyway.
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Anyone using eZCase? That seems to be a competitor to MiniSafe and CryptMagic, and AFAIK Dynoplex is a well regarded software vendor, so I would appreciate any input on eZCase or comparisons with MiniSafe or CryptMagic.
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Hi all,

Thank you for all your feedback and support.

We have just released MiniSafe 1.3. MiniSafe 1.3 has the following enhancements:
  • MiniSafe Desktop 1.1 with full two-way sync.
  • Partial match description filtering.
  • Sortable column in MiniSafe Desktop.
  • Short-cut keys: press M to mask/unmask masked field; press ENTER to activate Icon Picker dialog or Password Generator dialog.
  • Performance improvements.
  • Bug fixes.

Check out the software at:
http://www.simprit.com/minisafe_bb/

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I have downloaded the Minisafe program. I have successfully installed the Desktop version on my PC. However, when I go to the BB application loader in my Blackberry manager, it will not let me select the Minisafe application to install on my BB.
Anyone got a tip for me?
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cryptmagic is far more superior to mini safe.

cryptmagic allows for 10 fields, completely customizable templates as well as different views (the tree view is the one i use)

most flexible in my opinion then minisafe
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IMHO, I like CryptMagic better too
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