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o1sowise
12-15-2007, 03:17 PM
I'm specifically looking for something that will tell me when I'm running low.

btw - I originally thought I had a memory problem, but have since realized it's not a memory problem I'm having - it's file space (Device Memory).

I sometimes see my FileSpace go to zero.

I know I can use Alt-Cap-H to see my current status, but I'm looking for something that will:
Tell me when I'm running low
Allow me to browse around and see who/what is using/wasting space (like Windows Explorer, or better)

rjansen3
12-15-2007, 03:26 PM
Haven't heard of any such program.

JSanders
12-15-2007, 03:43 PM
btw - I originally thought I had a memory problem, but have since realized it's not a memory problem I'm having - it's file space (Device Memory).

Same difference. Follow the suggestions in the FAQs. Files are stored in the device memory.

o1sowise
12-15-2007, 04:13 PM
Same difference. Follow the suggestions in the FAQs. Files are stored in the device memory.

A followed many FAQs in this board and 3 others a while ago...

I still see the FileSpace sometimes go to zero.

Can you help me understand why Memory-Up would show me that I have 32MB of memory total, with 19MB free and 12MB used, but Alt-Cap-H says I have 3MB free file space of 60MB total file space?

I don't get it...

o1sowise
12-15-2007, 04:47 PM
added clarification to my initial post...

JSanders
12-15-2007, 05:09 PM
I don't know why memory up does whatever, but you have much more than 32 total, like 64. 3mb file free is about a fifth of what i would recommend free--15-20 free.

Most days i would like a fifth, but not in memory. ;)

Read the FAQs. Good luck.

o1sowise
12-15-2007, 06:52 PM
I have read all the FAQs here (1 (http://http://blackberryfaq.com/index.php/Why_is_my_BlackBerry_losing_its_call_logs_or_message_logs%3F), 2 (http://blackberryfaq.com/index.php/How_do_I_free_up_memory_on_my_8800%3F) and even 3 (http://blackberryfaq.com/index.php/Additional_information_on_memory_leaks_on_the_8100)) and on three other boards, and they help for a short time but something keeps filling me up. I guess I have a memory leak...

o1sowise
12-16-2007, 04:33 PM
I asked eMobiStudio, the author of MemoryUp-Mobile RAM Booster (Specially Designed for BlackBerry), this question:
I'm running Memory-Up v2.0 on a BlackBerry 8820 and it's telling me that I have:
Total Memory: ~32MB
Free Memory: ~18MB
Used Memory: ~14MB

Yet, when I press the help keys (Alt-Cap-H) it tells me:
File Free: ~0.7MB
File Total: ~61MB

Isn't memory and file space the same thing on a BB?
Why does Memory-Up only see half of what I have?
What am I missing?and here's their answer:

The "File Free" in your BB is not the same with "Free Memory" in MemoryUp. As the "File Free" indicates the free disk space in your BB, "Free Memory" in MemoryUp indicates the free RAM which is available for the Java Virtual Machine in your BB. So these two are totally different. And according to our experience, the 50% Free RAM is very normal for a normal Blackberry user.

o1sowise
12-19-2007, 12:04 PM
Same difference. ... Files are stored in the device memory.

OK, the light bulb just went off :idea:

I have 64MB of "space". If I load 30MB of stuff/files into it, that only leaves me with 34MB of "space" left for the BB to treat as memory.

Am I getting it now?

o1sowise
12-19-2007, 12:13 PM
Weird observation

I just wiped my BB. Before that, I was constantly having "memory" issues (http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-8800-series-discussion/102760-8820-orphan-missed-call-icon.html), where I would never see the BB have more than 7MB free. At times, it went to zero, which caused me many, many other problems.

Since I wiped the BB, I haven't seen it go below 23MB free (as displayed by Alt-Cap-H).

Did I have that much garbage?
Maybe there were some things laying around that were not assigned to anyone?
Any ideas why this would happen?

JSanders
12-19-2007, 12:19 PM
There you go. Yes.

If you have 0.7mb of File Free, you need to get that battery out and reboot, before I come pull it out. 8-)

o1sowise
12-19-2007, 12:24 PM
There you go. Yes.

If you have 0.7mb of File Free, you need to get that battery out and reboot, before I come pull it out. 8-)

Gotcha.
I pulled the battery out so many times, I thought it was a feature of the BB ;-)

So, if/when this happens again, how can I find the offending memory/filespace leakers?

JSanders
12-19-2007, 12:27 PM
What is your file free now, after rebooting?

o1sowise
12-20-2007, 08:22 AM
What is your file free now, after rebooting?Amazingly, a day later, 21016160 of 60948480. That's almost 35% free (y)
http://img126.exs.cx/img126/7776/cheers.gif

PPCMD
12-20-2007, 01:40 PM
So the solution when this occurs is to remove the battery and reset the BB? Seems to me there is something not right in the OS or an app.

x14
12-20-2007, 03:24 PM
So the solution when this occurs is to remove the battery and reset the BB? Seems to me there is something not right in the OS or an app.

When your PC is misbehaving don't you restart it?

JSanders
12-20-2007, 03:27 PM
So the solution when this occurs is to remove the battery and reset the BB? Seems to me there is something not right in the OS or an app.

It is the RIM recommended method of dealing with it.

Does it make it right? If it works, yea.

o1sowise
12-20-2007, 04:47 PM
So the solution when this occurs is to remove the battery and reset the BB?
Seems to me there is something not right in the OS or an app.
I wish I had a simple answer. I believe I had many problems, all (I suspect) because some stuff did not get cleaned out of my BB. I had some problems where the BB filled-up during Application-loading. In hindsight, I should not have ignored that, I should have restored it from the backup it just took. I believe this is what started my problems, and they just kept growing, but all were caused by the same thing: orphan files.

Here's another reason why I believe this. The following is a list of the AutoBackups taken: Directory of U:\Backup\BlackBerry

09/26/2007 12:23 PM 7,409,474 AutoBackup-(2007-09-26).ipd
09/27/2007 01:14 PM 8,071,359 AutoBackup-(2007-09-27).ipd
10/01/2007 01:51 PM 8,226,525 AutoBackup-(2007-10-01).ipd
10/21/2007 03:24 PM 8,120,807 AutoBackup-(2007-10-21).ipd
10/29/2007 07:35 AM 8,447,175 AutoBackup-(2007-10-29).ipd
10/30/2007 01:55 PM 7,126,860 AutoBackup-(2007-10-30).ipd
10/31/2007 02:10 PM 4,810,414 AutoBackup-(2007-10-31).ipd
11/04/2007 02:45 PM 5,143,888 AutoBackup-(2007-11-04).ipd
11/09/2007 09:39 AM 5,138,403 AutoBackup-(2007-11-09).ipd
11/10/2007 03:24 PM 4,857,503 AutoBackup-(2007-11-10).ipd
11/12/2007 05:19 PM 4,824,649 AutoBackup-(2007-11-12).ipd
11/14/2007 02:31 PM 4,799,617 AutoBackup-(2007-11-14).ipd
11/19/2007 01:24 PM 4,823,336 AutoBackup-(2007-11-19).ipd
11/21/2007 12:47 PM 4,788,748 AutoBackup-(2007-11-21).ipd
11/26/2007 08:44 AM 4,865,778 AutoBackup-(2007-11-26).ipd
11/29/2007 11:20 AM 5,038,256 AutoBackup-(2007-11-29).ipd
11/30/2007 03:15 PM 4,589,650 AutoBackup-(2007-11-30).ipd
12/03/2007 11:44 AM 4,720,928 AutoBackup-(2007-12-03).ipd
12/05/2007 04:18 PM 4,628,392 AutoBackup-(2007-12-05).ipd
12/07/2007 09:44 AM 4,787,620 AutoBackup-(2007-12-07).ipd
12/10/2007 10:33 AM 4,465,985 AutoBackup-(2007-12-10).ipd
12/13/2007 12:52 PM 3,493,018 AutoBackup-(2007-12-13).ipd
12/20/2007 11:01 AM 994,903 AutoBackup-(2007-12-20).ipd
23 File(s) 124,173,288 bytes
0 Dir(s) 19,485,057,024 bytes free
I reset my BB on 12/18 @<hidden> 5:30p. You can see, that the backup taken before the reset was 3.5MB and the backup taken after the rest was 1MB. If I look inside both IPD files (via DM's Backup Advanced), it tells me that the Content Store was huge (and is not now). Does anyone know of a tool that will read thru the IPD files and tell me what was in the Content Store DB?

JSanders
12-20-2007, 05:30 PM
In the good ol' FAQ...
Free download ABC Amber BlackBerry Convertor, convert, backup and archive IPD files to CHM, PDF, HTML, Word, Access, Excel, CSV, IPD Extractor (http://www.processtext.com/abcblackberry.html)

o1sowise
12-20-2007, 05:35 PM
In the good ol' FAQ...
Free download ABC Amber BlackBerry Convertor, convert, backup and archive IPD files to CHM, PDF, HTML, Word, Access, Excel, CSV, IPD Extractor (http://www.processtext.com/abcblackberry.html)

Thanks!
Trying it right now.

PPCMD
12-20-2007, 07:01 PM
I am pretty used to pulling the battery to reset a Palm Treo 700w (turd) not because it was WinMobile but because Palm went the stupid and cheap route.

My move to the BB has actually given me reason to pause and evaluate each software app I buy especially since you cannot install them to the card so I don't want garbage just to be forced to reset all the time. So yeah I get it and I use a MAC so I don't have to reboot my computer nearly as much as a windows user :)

SheepDog
12-20-2007, 07:19 PM
heh! I use an iMac ans NEVER have to restart my computer unless an upgrade requests it!

Windows-Poo! yuk!

celeb
01-08-2008, 04:55 PM
Any updates to whether or not there are any solutions out there to determine how much space applications take up on the handheld?