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doe4040
02-19-2008, 02:59 PM
Hey guys.
I know most of you are over in the U-S of A
I was just randomly browsing the US 'Carriers' (as you call them) websites looking at the BB's that you get that we dont.
Your price plans really confuse me
You seem to not get any inclusive text messages... do you guys not text message?
And your price plans seem so expensive... i mean maybe they're not to you, but when i get my BB on friday (wooooo excited) i'll be paying 30 (or $60) a month whereas some of your base tarrifs are about $50
Meh, just curious.
It'd be nice to know though :smile:

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 03:07 PM
I pay $120, or i guess 60 pounds for Unlimited BB Data, Unlimited Messaging, and 900 minutes/unlimited nights/weekends. doesnt seem that much out of the realm from there. our plans are not inclusive, generally, but you can pick and choose what you like.

doe4040
02-19-2008, 03:18 PM
Thats actually pretty good.
For about 60 over here on say TMO youre getting 3900 OR 1950 minutes but it's an extra 10 on top for a BB Data Plan
Then again, you dont have to have a minimum price plan to add BB Data on top
Oh well
Cheers for the insight peeps8-)

monkeypaw
02-19-2008, 03:37 PM
$59.99 for 1000 talk minutes, unlimited text messages, unlimited BB data. Also includes tethering so I can hook up my laptop to the internet. For $9.99 more I could add unlimited UMA minutes.

The plans are confusing as heck for the most part. Sometimes there are regional promotions going on as well. Text messaging is included with some plans and has to be added onto others.

itsj
02-19-2008, 03:54 PM
Hey guys.
I know most of you are over in the U-S of A
I was just randomly browsing the US 'Carriers' (as you call them) websites looking at the BB's that you get that we dont.
Your price plans really confuse me
You seem to not get any inclusive text messages... do you guys not text message?
And your price plans seem so expensive... i mean maybe they're not to you, but when i get my BB on friday (wooooo excited) i'll be paying 30 (or $60) a month whereas some of your base tarrifs are about $50
Meh, just curious.
It'd be nice to know though :smile:

bloody red coat, don't look at our carriers ;)

kjjb0204
02-19-2008, 04:11 PM
bloody red coat, don't look at our carriers ;)

Hey, take it easy, not like he's from France or something.....

I have the $139.99 family share with 2100 minutes and unlimited bb data on two lines (one bb, one not). I don't text at all.

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 04:15 PM
ok, lets keep country of origin out of this please. Someone is going to take the wrong way. the OP just had a question about US plans.

kjjb0204
02-19-2008, 04:44 PM
Would it have been funnier if I said "at least he's not from tattooine?"

itsj
02-19-2008, 04:45 PM
Would it have been funnier if I said "at least he's not from tattooine?"

LOL!!

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 04:49 PM
i realize it was a joke, and i did laugh, but yes, to answer your question, it would have been funnier

itsj
02-19-2008, 04:52 PM
this a yankee forum, i don't see co.uk anywhere, better not see round here no more..


sorry im getting out of hand LOL

blondee028
02-19-2008, 04:57 PM
I pay $89.00 a month for family plan ( 2 phones) 1000 minutes talk time unlimited nights / weekends / unlimited data plus 400 text messages a months and its nationwide. I thought that was a lot!

doe4040
02-19-2008, 05:06 PM
hahaha

for anyone thats seen the Family Guy Blue Harvest Star Wars ripoff:

"I could sure listen to some Tatooine Wind and Fire right now"

hahahaha

one of your finest american exports besides 'Friends', American Football and the Red Hot Chili Peppers

Dinan3
02-19-2008, 05:07 PM
I have a MyFaves plan here with T-Mobile that includes:

5 u.s numbers to talk to (any u.s. number) unlimited
with 600 anytime minutes and unlimited nights/weekends
$39.99

unlimited text messaging while under a myfaves
$9.99

unlimited mobile to mobile
$6.99

BIS
$19.99

i think its pretty deal for a total of $77.00 a month.

***just a side note, i also love their 24/7 customer service.***
8-)

maxsquared
02-19-2008, 05:08 PM
When I take out a 12 months contract with O2 UK, for 25 pounds + 10 pound blackberry unlimited, I will get my 8310 for free, what's the initial cost of the phone there in the states.

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 05:09 PM
got mine for $50 after rebate. You do have us beat greatly on device pricing.

Foxglove
02-19-2008, 05:16 PM
got mine for $50 after rebate. You do have us beat greatly on device pricing.

I know we have you beat there as we get the Bb's free on certain voice tarrifs and I must say that this surprises me as almost everything else in the US is cheaper than here.

I also beleive that US users also pay for calls & messages received...... we don't when we are in the UK but do get charged for receiving when abroad.

doe4040
02-19-2008, 05:17 PM
We do have you beaten
But on the other hand, you have different devices to us, which is slightly unfair, i.e. the 8830 and the 8130
Then again... you dont have the 8820 and the 8120... and we do... =S
Confusion!!!

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 05:18 PM
i agree, you do have us beat on device pricing. if you take into account the currency, i have 900minutes, unlimited night/weekend, unlimited text, MMS, email, and data usage for 120$ or roughly 60 pounds. Not a bad plan price, but i also use alot more than most. you can get plans on some carriers here with the same for $90 or 45 pounds.

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 05:18 PM
We do have you beaten
But on the other hand, you have different devices to us, which is slightly unfair, i.e. the 8830 and the 8130
Then again... you dont have the 8820 and the 8120... and we do... =S
Confusion!!!

we have those devices here. the only device not in the states is the 8110.

doe4040
02-19-2008, 05:19 PM
I get the feeling that they may be sort of the same device but with a different name?
With the exception of the 8830, which looks a hell of a lot different altogether

Foxglove
02-19-2008, 05:20 PM
We do have you beaten
But on the other hand, you have different devices to us, which is slightly unfair, i.e. the 8830 and the 8130
Then again... you dont have the 8820 and the 8120... and we do... =S
Confusion!!!

The 8830 & 8130 are CDMA devices which are not compatible with Uk networks and they don't have SIM cards would you believe!!!

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 05:20 PM
I get the feeling that they may be sort of the same device but with a different name?
With the exception of the 8830, which looks a hell of a lot different altogether

8830 is basically the 8800 for CDMA instead of GSM
8130 is the 8110 for CDMA instead of GSM
8120 we do have.

maxsquared
02-19-2008, 05:33 PM
8830 is basically the 8800 for CDMA instead of GSM
8130 is the 8110 for CDMA instead of GSM
8120 we do have.

Not exactly, to my understanding, the 8830 is the 8820+8800 with both wifi and GPS, and the 8130 is the 8110+8120 with both wifi and GPS. Also, I think their EVDO network is actually faster than our EDGE, and I really think O2's EDGE network is just change the symbol on my blackberry from GPRS to EDGE, it's the same speed.

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 05:35 PM
Not exactly, to my understanding, the 8830 is the 8820+8800 with both wifi and GPS, and the 8130 is the 8110+8120 with both wifi and GPS. Also, I think their EVDO network is actually faster than our EDGE, and I really think O2's EDGE network is just change the symbol on my blackberry from GPRS to EDGE, it's the same speed.

no, neither the 8830 or the 8130 model has wifi. and i am in the states :razz: EDGE here is significantly faster than GPRS, while EVDO is 2-3 times faster than EDGE

doe4040
02-19-2008, 05:36 PM
Sorry, BB noob here, can you explain what CDMA is?

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 05:37 PM
its a network, similar to GSM but using different technology.

maxsquared
02-19-2008, 05:38 PM
no, neither the 8830 or the 8130 model has wifi. and i am in the states :razz: EDGE here is significantly faster than GPRS, while EVDO is 2-3 times faster than EDGE

Oh well, I was hoping to be clever for once.

Anyways, I do look forward to the new HSDPA berry, if that's the case, I think UK will have much better coverage than the states, coz the size of it. :razz:

doe4040
02-19-2008, 05:39 PM
Oh right... and without a SIM card you say? So does that mean there is some sort of built in SIM card?

Sith_Apprentice
02-19-2008, 05:40 PM
Oh right... and without a SIM card you say? So does that mean there is some sort of built in SIM card?

the devices use a serial number to be tracked on the network. not nearly as easy to switch devices. and to this point, they are still locked to one network and cannot be used on another (though they are changing that)

maxsquared
02-19-2008, 05:44 PM
Oh right... and without a SIM card you say? So does that mean there is some sort of built in SIM card?

I think every phone will have a unique code, the network use the code to charge the account and etc, same as PHS. Where gsm the sim card is the unique code is on the sim card.

Anyways, the downside is you can't easily change your handset, and I do know the CDMA network in China uses sim card.

doe4040
02-19-2008, 05:46 PM
Hmm tis quite interesting
But i must now sign off as i have college in the morning
Only 3 sleeps till blackberry =D =D
Bye peeps

ricpac
02-19-2008, 05:49 PM
wish we have unlimited BB data plans here in the PH; i think it's only in AU, HK and SG with unlimited data in the APAC region (oops, wrong thread?)

sidsub
02-20-2008, 06:09 PM
I think European networks are able to offset some of their costs because they collect from other carriers and land-line customers for inbound calls. This allows them to charge lower fees to their own subscribers. Despite that additional revenue source that European carriers have, it seems they still charge just as much for monthly subscription, and charge per-minute rates for some in-country calls (to other mobile phones) as well. I haven't priced any plans lately, but this is what it looked like the last time I checked (a few years ago).

pierre15208
02-21-2008, 02:27 PM
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I pay about $70/month.



T Mobile MyFaves 300 plan for $39.99, BB add on for $19.99, and 1000 text msgs for $9.99.



I barely make a dent in my voice plan (avg 100 min/mo), but I surf the Net at least 2 hrs a day so the unlimited data is the deal maker for me. The OP posted about text messaging and the lack of unlimited texting in US plans. I think that's because, up to a couple years ago. Americans didn't rely on text messaging nearly as much as Euros, Brits, and Asians. American kids are big time into texting, adults less so. I don't send a lot of text messages, but I get a lot in the form of sports scores, and news headlines, etc.

tsac
02-21-2008, 07:37 PM
who needs Text message with a BB. if friends dont have a BB their NOT

ATT 1000 min , unlimited data , no text $80. US

mizditz101
02-21-2008, 08:12 PM
Lol, I don't pay as much as I was told.. I got some cool deal I wasn't supposed to =)
2 lines, 1000min + my faves, Unlimited text, tmo to tmo calling, and the bb data plan on both lines (one on BES, one on BIS)
= $131 a month (supposed to be $150)

And yeah, it's ALOT harder to change your phone on CDMA networks.. =/
Having to turn off your phones, go to the site and change... And then you get an "error" because you're the primary line half the time, so you have to call customer service... and they tell you not to call on your cell phone, but you do anyway cuz you know how to do it, and then they yell at your for being smart =D

livinginx
02-21-2008, 09:49 PM
I have a dealer line, so I pay about $45(US)/month and get 3000 minutes, unlimited text, nights and weekends, mobile to mobile, walkie talkie, and BIS. :-)

But I wont be on this plan for much longer as I am leaving the industry.

Sprint has an addon for $30/month for blackberries which includes: Unlimited text, internet, email, navagation, and Sprint TV. With it, you also get all the little goodies that come with Sprint Internet packs.

Later y'all

doe4040
02-22-2008, 06:37 AM
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I barely make a dent in my voice plan (avg 100 min/mo), but I surf the Net at least 2 hrs a day so the unlimited data is the deal maker for me. The OP posted about text messaging and the lack of unlimited texting in US plans. I think that's because, up to a couple years ago. Americans didn't rely on text messaging nearly as much as Euros, Brits, and Asians. American kids are big time into texting, adults less so. I don't send a lot of text messages, but I get a lot in the form of sports scores, and news headlines, etc.

Well my mum and dad are total technophobes, but that's cause they come from a different generation. Having said that, my dad still has his very first mobile phone in the attic, the Motorola that took a sim card the size of a credit card.

And to TSAC, Blackberry hasnt taken off as much in the UK as it has in the US. I take the train to college every day and sure, all the business men and women have one for what i assume is their BES Email from work. But im sure over in the USA that alot of teenagers own and make full use of their Blackberry's email facilities.

But anyway. I get my Blackberry today, im very excited. I wonder if TMO sell valium too... ?;-)

pierre15208
02-22-2008, 01:34 PM
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Ahh...a new citizen of CrackBerry Nation...Lol

I think that most teens in the US are more into instant messaging and texting than email. They tend to look at email as something their parents use.

monkeypaw
02-22-2008, 01:45 PM
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I pay about $70/month.



T Mobile MyFaves 300 plan for $39.99, BB add on for $19.99, and 1000 text msgs for $9.99.



I barely make a dent in my voice plan (avg 100 min/mo), but I surf the Net at least 2 hrs a day so the unlimited data is the deal maker for me. The OP posted about text messaging and the lack of unlimited texting in US plans. I think that's because, up to a couple years ago. Americans didn't rely on text messaging nearly as much as Euros, Brits, and Asians. American kids are big time into texting, adults less so. I don't send a lot of text messages, but I get a lot in the form of sports scores, and news headlines, etc.

I think you can save yourself at least $10/month plus taxes, particularly if you only average 100 minutes per month. My $59.99 Blackberry Minutes and Mail plan gives 1000 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data. Or you can change from MyFaves to a regular 300 plan. That should save $10 also.

mizditz101
02-23-2008, 12:03 AM
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Ahh...a new citizen of CrackBerry Nation...Lol

I think that most teens in the US are more into instant messaging and texting than email. They tend to look at email as something their parents use.

Hehehe
I'm a teen, and I love email going to my phone! No need to get on my email account on my computer anymore =D Then my dad stole my thunder by just HAVING to get a pearl also, only his was blue.. then he stole it MORE trading it for a curve.
I was the one that wanted the pearl first oddly enough, my dad wanted the tmobile dash, because he likes windows mobile, coming off of a MotoQ

doe4040
02-29-2008, 06:10 PM
I agree pierre
I myself send around 20-30 texts a day and spend about two hours on an IM program
However, the majority of my socialising is done by email
I cant think of a real reason, but thats how it is