BB Curve OS 4.5.44 Release 62

[JLeny]

Anyone get a chance to install the latest build and what fixes are included?

[Sith_Apprentice]

*moving to beta you than me*

[ezrunner]

Wirelessly posted (positive thoughts!!!)

Sith you aint Beta than me!!

[citrixscu]

Nope, haven't seen it floating around the interweb as of yet. Anybody know what it's all about?

[exchangemymail]

i just downloaded it.. installing now.. will post later after i get a handle on it..
No release notes as to what was fixed though..

[Sith_Apprentice]

minor fixes in this release, some bugs were more annoying than others though. havent noticed much in terms of battery life difference.

[citrixscu]

Anyone know if it fixes the "icon repositioning" issue in themes that we saw in .42?

[GT5L]

Wirelessly posted (bb8320TMO)

Does UMA still work, does vm icon work?

[Sith_Apprentice]

UMA yes voicemail no

[david_uk]

Will be interesting to see if they've fixed the EDGE issue that is present in v4.5.0.37.

I was roaming in an EDGE area last week and often had to do a Reconcile Now to get my mail. No such prob with GPRS.

[xyrcncp]

What about the memory leak issue from .42?

[Sith_Apprentice]

you mean the memory leak from ALL OS's since the pearl was launched, still there but somewhat minimized

[PDM]

Does the Alarm app now make you a fresh cafe latte and then wake you up in the mornings?

[Sith_Apprentice]

no, that will be with the pending OS 9.5 release

[PDM]

Shame... ;)

[xyrcncp]

you mean the memory leak from ALL OS's since the pearl was launched, still there but somewhat minimized

yeah...that leak... http://www.xyrcncp.com/smileys/laugh1.gif

[gonzy88]

i just downloaded it.. installing now.. will post later after i get a handle on it..
No release notes as to what was fixed though..

Hows that install coming along?

[Nextel User]

what memory leak is there?

i have a weird problem, every morning my phone seems to just delete call logs and emails....





i know, i know.....

[lraed74]

what memory leak is there?

i have a weird problem, every morning my phone seems to just delete call logs and emails....





i know, i know.....

Maybe your drinking too much the night before and your actually deleting them yourself but trying to push it off on your berry :shock:

[justajason]

OMG. Another beta?!? WTH?

[gonzy88]

Wish I knew where to get it ...

[penguin3107]

OMG. Another beta?!? WTH?

I know! What is the world coming to?
All these improvements, bug fixes and general forward progress is really a drag.

[gonzy88]

I know! What is the world coming to?
All these improvements, bug fixes and general forward progress is really a drag.

LMAO

Thats some funny chit!

[NJBlackBerry]

But wait, did Vodafone already (prematurely) release this? Who could there be another beta already?

UMA works.
VM doesn't

My memory has never taken a leak.

[JSanders]

Ve leak you, Meester NJ. Vetty Vetty much leak you.

[mowvich]

Wirelessly posted

Is this available for 8310?, can't seem to find it no where :(

[penguin3107]

can't seem to find it no where :(

Doesn't that mean it's everywhere?

[Sith_Apprentice]

you are correct sir! double negative

[ricpac]

Correct!

[mowvich]

Doesn't that mean it's everywhere?

Sorry didn't get you on this, it's nowhere even though some people said they're installing it !!!, just would be nice to give it a test drive :smile:

[penguin3107]

Sorry didn't get you on this, it's nowhere even though some people said they're installing it !!!, just would be nice to give it a test drive :smile:

Well, if people are installing it, then it must be somewhere.
If you're only looking nowhere for it, you might want to widen your search parameters to include places other than nowhere.
That's what I was getting at. :)

[citrixscu]

GOOG maybe?

[gonzy88]

GOOG maybe?


Not yet ...

[mowvich]

Not yet ...

Exactly, searched for it & it's nowhere, that's what i meant first.

[NJBlackBerry]

And, of course, we all know the penalty for asking for a location when a beta might be located, right???

Perhaps it is so new that people haven't gotten around to violating their NDAs yet :-)

[hinesje]

does anyone have the link to the new beta os 4.5.0.45. i think that is the latest but if not please post the link to the newest version.

[penguin3107]

Wirelessly posted (Breaking Ball)

does anyone have the link to the new beta os 4.5.0.45. i think that is the latest but if not please post the link to the newest version.

You must be new here.

[gonzy88]

does anyone have the link to the new beta os 4.5.0.45. i think that is the latest but if not please post the link to the newest version.

Yep--its under there!

[b3n_asian_freak]

We need an official release!!!!! lol, and the Bold also!

[justajason]

I know! What is the world coming to?
All these improvements, bug fixes and general forward progress is really a drag.

What will I tell Wednesday, and Pugsly?

[JEGO82]

meh i'm too lazy to upgrade AGAIN...im just going to wait for the official release

[dhoff4]

Just my experiences:
- UMA now works again
- Fixed the forward/back delay timer in the media player (previous build required a trigger finger to ensure that adjusting the volume up/down didn't cause next/previous track to play.
- Broke device lock over-ride when active media is playing; while watching a movie, device will lock after your normal inactivity timeout.
- EDGE isn't shifting from towers seemlessly. This might be related to me using Tmobile, but it is a definte change in device behavior. On a 1 hour trip between office and home in Atlanta metro area, there used to two well defined areas where calls would drop. There are now 5 of these areas.
- Google maps 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 lockup on the license screen (at 90%) when you prompted to update the device security settings.
- Browser speed is improved; but EDGE data issues (tower roaming) still cause many problems.

[fantom1023]

meh i'm too lazy to upgrade AGAIN...im just going to wait for the official release

You could be waiting awhile! Where is the official release already!! Come on RIM and Carriers, Hurry UP!!!

[NJBlackBerry]

Well, Vodafone Germany already released it. Why not go with that if you are in a hurry?

[fantom1023]

I am not in a hurry for bugs

[L!ttle R@bb!t]

I better waiting for final release, coz free of bugs.

[GLOCKshooter]

As long as it doesn't physically cripple parts of my phone I consider it a win.

[ricpac]

Iwant8320OSversion4.5.0.4545

[GT5L]

Wirelessly posted (bb8320TMO: BlackBerry8320/4.5.0.42 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

I want $1,000,000

[Sith_Apprentice]

Just my experiences:
- UMA now works again
- Fixed the forward/back delay timer in the media player (previous build required a trigger finger to ensure that adjusting the volume up/down didn't cause next/previous track to play.
- Broke device lock over-ride when active media is playing; while watching a movie, device will lock after your normal inactivity timeout.
- EDGE isn't shifting from towers seemlessly. This might be related to me using Tmobile, but it is a definte change in device behavior. On a 1 hour trip between office and home in Atlanta metro area, there used to two well defined areas where calls would drop. There are now 5 of these areas.
- Google maps 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 lockup on the license screen (at 90%) when you prompted to update the device security settings.
- Browser speed is improved; but EDGE data issues (tower roaming) still cause many problems.


let us know if they fry your SIM (y)

[NJBlackBerry]

No frying for me yet.
No VM indicator
UMA is fine
No problem moving between cells here.

[Sith_Apprentice]

it was a joke NJ :razz:

[zkyevolved]

I'm sorry... But I'm trying to find this build... Is this 4.5.0.44? for the curve (normal) or for 8310? 8320? I'm confused :(

Thanks! :)

[Sith_Apprentice]

its for all of them. and no asking where to find it.

[zkyevolved]

its for all of them. and no asking where to find it.

I don't need to know WHERE to find them. I would just like to know what this build is :)

[Sith_Apprentice]

4.5.0.44 for all GSM its rel 62

[vinmontRD]

Location is one of the better kept secrets in the BB world it seems -- people must be taking NDA's pretty seriously this time: no trace of it on any search engines (except people begging/wishing for a link!)...

Tantalizing... I'm enjoying 4.5.0.42, but want my VM / message waiting indicator back....

[JLeny]

I understand the VM issue is still in release .44. You could always get a YouMail account. This works very very well.


Location is one of the better kept secrets in the BB world it seems -- people must be taking NDA's pretty seriously this time: no trace of it on any search engines (except people begging/wishing for a link!)...

Tantalizing... I'm enjoying 4.5.0.42, but want my VM / message waiting indicator back....

[davidkoby]

I guess I'm confused as to why Vodofone released it for the 8310 but not the 8300. Is there going to be a release for the regular 'ol 8300? Or will the 8310 version work for it?

[gonzy88]

I was wondering the same thing ...

[JLeny]

Parlingo does not seem to connect on version 4.5.42. Also the program would not exit I had to pull the battery out. Not sure if this is a OS issue or a program issue.

[vinmontRD]

I understand the VM issue is still in release .44. You could always get a YouMail account. This works very very well.

I guess YouMail isn't able to turn on the "message waiting indicator", though? I'd think that has to happen within the carrier...

- Jon

[JLeny]

You mail will send a text or a email or both with the caller information. It can even transcribe the voice mail.

I guess YouMail isn't able to turn on the "message waiting indicator", though? I'd think that has to happen within the carrier...

- Jon

[xyrcncp]

I guess YouMail isn't able to turn on the "message waiting indicator", though? I'd think that has to happen within the carrier...

- Jon

No, but you would get a text or email from YouMail notifying you of the voicemail. You're correct, the VM indicator is from the carrier.

[ubizmo]

I've noticed a bug in 4.5.0.42, namely, if you email a photo or video from the camera app (rather than opening an email and attaching), the OS does not use the default mail account. If it's a recipient that has an account associated with it, because you've sent mail to that recipient before, it doesn't use that either. It just uses the first mail account in the list. I wonder if that is fixed in this new beta release.

[david_uk]

I guess I'm confused as to why Vodofone released it for the 8310 but not the 8300. Is there going to be a release for the regular 'ol 8300? Or will the 8310 version work for it?

Any carrier version will do, just delete the vendor.xml file before install as well documented in other threads.

All BB OS releases are model specific - the 8310 version will not work with a 8300.

[gonzy88]

Any carrier version will do, just delete the vendor.xml file before install as well documented in other threads.

All BB OS releases are model specific - the 8310 version will not work with a 8300.

OK, sooooo there is no official release for the 8300 re: 4.5 os?

[JLeny]

I would be ok with version 4.5.42 if the battery life wasn't so bad. Only getting between 6 and 9 hours with Wifi and Bluetooth turned off. T Mobile sent me a new Battery but I get the same battery life.

Anyone else notice a drastic diffrence in Battery Life?

[gonzy88]

That's strange--I thought mine was better after the upgrade.

[JSanders]

OK, sooooo there is no official release for the 8300 re: 4.5 os?


No, not as of this hour.

[NCBuckeye]

Just got it and in the process of installing it.

[7100simpleisbetter]

What is the platform number for 4.5.0.44. It should be 2.7.0.?...fill in the ?

Thanks in advance!!!

[Sith_Apprentice]

2.7.0.61

[7100simpleisbetter]

2.7.0.61

Gracias!!!

[Sith_Apprentice]

not a problem at all.

[gonzy88]

So the purpose of the ending numbers to the .44 platform is ....

[JSanders]

...to differentiate between the "applications" release versions.

RIMs release numbering, combined with the Platform and Software numbers is more confusing than a worm wrassle.
You need a good Dewey Decimal System just to read them and understand them.

[Mr. Opportunist]

I guess YouMail isn't able to turn on the "message waiting indicator", though? I'd think that has to happen within the carrier...

- Jon
There is an option to trigger the message waiting indicator, I use it and that is how I have it set up.

[gonzy88]

Got it! Now can you guess what my next question might possibly be? lol

[Ramsy]

There is an option to trigger the message waiting indicator, I use it and that is how I have it set up.

I would be interested in knowing how to do this. Can you tell me how to do this? Thanks.

[JSanders]

yea, for YouMail? If there is one, let is know.

If you get an SMS notification or email notification, that will trigger the LED.

[Ramsy]

yea, for YouMail? If there is one, let is know.

If you get an SMS notification or email notification, that will trigger the LED.

Yeah, for YouMail. I am reading the prior poster's post as saying there potentially is a way to turn on the message indicator icon (the picture of a tape reel) on the LCD vs. the red flashing light of an incoming SMS or email.

I might have misunderstood what he is saying.

[JSanders]

I agree, "message waiting indicator" would seem like the voicemail icon... I don't know how Youmail can do that as I thought that was a carrier function.

[Ramsy]

I agree, "message waiting indicator" would seem like the voicemail icon... I don't know how Youmail can do that as I thought that was a carrier function.

Likewise. But, if there is a way, I would love to know as I really enjoy using YouMail now.

[gonzy88]

I think somebody forgot to read the rules & regulations ...

[lraed74]

I think somebody forgot to read the rules & regulations ...

Was it you?

[gonzy88]

Was it you?

Nope, there was a post earlier this morning in regards to the newest build and if somebody could be so gracious and sent it to him/her. Needless to say it was removed--at lightning speed I might add!!

[JLeny]

Installed 4.5.44 and this is what I have noticed.

Fixed
Battery Life is MUCH better. (Phone has been on since midnight last night and the Battery life is at 90% at 9:44am)
UMA switches from Network better (Although most calls require two tries to connect)
Voice Dialing works better then .42
Much Better Memory handling.


Still Broken
Voice mail indicator is still broken
BB Messenger contacts are erased after a Battery Pull
Themes seem to return to its default setting after a Battery Pull

[xyrcncp]

Installed 4.5.44 and this is what I have noticed.

Fixed
Battery Life is MUCH better. (Phone has been on since midnight last night and the Battery life is at 90% at 9:44am)
UMA switches from Network better (Although most calls require two tries to connect)
Voice Dialing works better then .42
Much Better Memory handling.


Still Broken
Voice mail indicator is still broken
BB Messenger contacts are erased after a Battery Pull
Themes seem to return to its default setting after a Battery Pull

Nice.

As for your "Still Broken" list and the BB Messenger contacts being erased and the themes going back to default...I don't experience either one of those conditions on .42 and I've been doing a battery pull pretty much every day since my memory drops to 9MB (from 14MB) by the end of the day.

[MrKyoo]

Themes seem to return to its default setting after a Battery Pullhttp://www.blackberryforums.com/beta-you-than-me/131603-4-5-repositioning-banner-themes-fixed.html

[GT5L]

I have been using 44 on my 8320 since last night I have not noticed any changes from 42. UMA and Empower HTML viewer work.

[GT5L]

I don't see BB contacts and theme returning to default after battery pull on my 8320.

[JLeny]

This is very frustrating for me. Perhaps this has got to do with the BES server and not the BIS server.

Strangely enough it doesn't happen every time.

I don't see BB contacts and theme returning to default after battery pull on my 8320.

[GT5L]

This is very frustrating for me. Perhaps this has got to do with the BES server and not the BIS server.

Strangely enough it doesn't happen every time.
Could be, I am on BIS myself.

[fmp]

Likewise. But, if there is a way, I would love to know as I really enjoy using YouMail now.

YouMail can trigger your VM indicator. It does it through a special sms, that does not show up in your inbox. Just go to notifications in YouMail and one of the options will allow you to have you VM indicator (and count) go off just like it was your carrier's VM. YouMail rocks!

[fmp]

YouMail can trigger your VM indicator. It does it through a special sms, that does not show up in your inbox. Just go to notifications in YouMail and one of the options will allow you to have you VM indicator (and count) go off just like it was your carrier's VM. YouMail rocks!

It's called MWI...see attached.

[John Clark]

That is not an option in my setup. :-(

[SMF]

Not for me either. What phone model did you select?

I don't have any "modifiers" for the "When I Get A Voicemail" option under Send me a TXT...

Thanks,
SMF

[John Clark]

I selected BB Curve....

[GT5L]

i noticed that vibrate is not working on my 8329 after installing 44 anyone else?

[John Clark]

I'm guessing it's carrier related as changing the phone model didn't affect any of those options in My Alerts for YouMail.

[7100simpleisbetter]

Me neither, that would be nice to have the icon on the top of the screen. Does the MWI feature get charged if you don't have a text messaging plan just like an SMS.

[GT5L]

i noticed that vibrate is not working on my 8329 after installing 44 anyone else?
never mind a good tap fixed the issue, nothing like a little violence for the berry :smile:

[John Clark]

Me neither, that would be nice to have the icon on the top of the screen. Does the MWI feature get charged if you don't have a text messaging plan just like an SMS.

I tried changing my carrier to AT&T. Once I confirmed receipt of the text message I got the option in My Alerts. However, the voicemail icon doesn't show up. Not sure if it's the same reason the TMo icon doesn't show up or if the AT&T setup is not compatible.

[coldconfession13]

Wirelessly posted

I want a 8329!!!

[Ramsy]

YouMail can trigger your VM indicator. It does it through a special sms, that does not show up in your inbox. Just go to notifications in YouMail and one of the options will allow you to have you VM indicator (and count) go off just like it was your carrier's VM. YouMail rocks!

Thanks for the info. However, I have no option to turn MWI on in my YouMail account. I tried changing my carrier information from T-Mobile to AT&T, but still the option did not show up. Weird.

[John Clark]

After you change it to AT&T you have to confirm that you can receive txt messages. You'll get a code in an sms on your BB and you enter that code on the site. Once you do that you'll see the option appear. However, it didn't work for me. I never got the icon.

[fmp]

After you change it to AT&T you have to confirm that you can receive txt messages. You'll get a code in an sms on your BB and you enter that code on the site. Once you do that you'll see the option appear. However, it didn't work for me. I never got the icon.

I never really thought that the different carriers' VM systems would be that different. Seems like it will not work on T-Mobile. Sorry to get you guys worked up.

<sarcasm> I am sure you are still very happy for me and the other ATT folks that do have this very cool feature. <\sarcasm>

Seriously, the best feature of YouMail is the personalized greetings. I have never had people so in awe of my VM system. They all leave a message saying: "wow, i have never been greeted by a VM with my actual name, that is so cool, what is it?"

YouMail is super smart for putting that it, they will pull customers like crazy with that feature.

[John Clark]

It might have worked. It could be the same issue that is preventing the vm indicator from showing up in the first place in 4.5.

[Ramsy]

I never really thought that the different carriers' VM systems would be that different. Seems like it will not work on T-Mobile. Sorry to get you guys worked up.

<sarcasm> I am sure you are still very happy for me and the other ATT folks that do have this very cool feature. <\sarcasm>

Seriously, the best feature of YouMail is the personalized greetings. I have never had people so in awe of my VM system. They all leave a message saying: "wow, i have never been greeted by a VM with my actual name, that is so cool, what is it?"

YouMail is super smart for putting that it, they will pull customers like crazy with that feature.

Thanks for the info, even though it does not look like it is supported on the T-Mobile system.

As for YouMail and personalized messages, I have had people call me a few times in a row after they hear my voice mail address for the first time as they cannot understand how my voice mail system knows who is calling and how it is able to address them by first name.

[JSanders]

I'm really liking Youmail as well.

[John Clark]

I like the personalized greetings but it doesn't work right in all cases....When my wife called it said, "Hello Unicel....." as her cell phone doesn't have her name associated with it on caller ID. Apparently, Unicel can't change it either... Also, when someone from work called it said, "Hello <name of company>..."

So, I just recorded my own greeting as normal.

[Ramsy]

I like the personalized greetings but it doesn't work right in all cases....When my wife called it said, "Hello Unicel....." as her cell phone doesn't have her name associated with it on caller ID. Apparently, Unicel can't change it either... Also, when someone from work called it said, "Hello <name of company>..."

So, I just recorded my own greeting as normal.

If you add specific callers to your YouMail address book with their phone numbers, YouMail will be able to personally greet them.

[John Clark]

I could try that...would help for individual callers. Won't help for people who call from work, though.

[VickyPaz]

I could try that...would help for individual callers. Won't help for people who call from work, though.

I work at a place that has the name Studio in it (which would gets shortened to 'Stud' on Caller ID), and for some reason when I first got YouMail it would answer, 'Hello Stud, Vicky can't get to the phone...' (the guys at work loved that) so I changed to my own recording but wasn't getting any email notifications. So I said the heck with it and switched back to the Smart Greeting. Now, when someone calls from work it just says, 'Hello, Vicky can't...' so it 'seems' to have fixed itself - at least for the moment - tho not sure if it's happening in all cases.

BTW, there's a YouMail greeting called 'very funny psychiatrist greeting' in Most Popular that is just hysterical. Have a listen sometime :0)

[VickyPaz]

Installed 4.5.44 and this is what I have noticed.

Still Broken
BB Messenger contacts are erased after a Battery Pull
Themes seem to return to its default setting after a Battery Pull

Neither of these have been an issue for me, at least for the moment. Upon upgrading, free memory seemed to be considerably higher than before though the leak is clearly still there. A battery pull resets it. And Aerize Memory helps as well. Have noticed the battery drains quicker on the 4.5s tho...

[ntrbc]

if we update the device to a new version, do we have to get it unlock again?

[JSanders]

No, once unlocked, always unlocked, foreever.

[John Clark]

No. There is no way to ever lock your device again. Once unlocked, always unlocked.

[MrPandaInc]

I installed the beta a few days ago, my berry works alot faster, alittle less lagging here and there. The camera also seem to improve as well as the video performance.

[mowvich]

Installed this beta yesterday, works much better than V .42, highlights is longer battery life & higher memory free space (12 mb after .42 Vs 22 mb after .44), guess we're so near to the final release if it's not this one already :)

[NJBlackBerry]

Your guess is as good as anyone's.

VM indicator still does not work for all carriers.

[mowvich]

Your guess is as good as anyone's.

VM indicator still does not work for all carriers.

I hate using VM's anyway, i even cancelled this service, so have no problem at all :smile:

[justajason]

Ive been using the .44 for half the day, and Its seeming a bit more stable than the earlier releases. Ive removed the reporting software package by deleting the contents of the folder. And regained about 4 megs. As for the memory leak, the memory cleaner thats built into the security option, works pretty good for a quick clean up. The only issue is, that when you hard reset, the options go back to their original state as being inactive...
oooh, were getting so close I can taste it..

[NJBlackBerry]

As has been documented many, many times, the "Memory Cleaner" does not erase memory. It makes the data that was there unusable, but it is not a cleaner like you thing it is.

[ubizmo]

I've noticed a bug in 4.5.0.42, namely, if you email a photo or video from the camera app (rather than opening an email and attaching), the OS does not use the default mail account. If it's a recipient that has an account associated with it, because you've sent mail to that recipient before, it doesn't use that either. It just uses the first mail account in the list. I wonder if that is fixed in this new beta release.

Answering my own question, now that I've installed 4.5.0.44... The bug is not fixed.

Otherwise, I agree with others' impressions: stable overall, no VM icon, much better battery life.

[justajason]

As has been documented many, many times, the "Memory Cleaner" does not erase memory. It makes the data that was there unusable, but it is not a cleaner like you thing it is.

So, the 3/4 of a meg I gained, is an illusion? Thats interesting... Ill search a little to confirm my results before I post again...

[dilipc]

i noticed that vibrate is not working on my 8329 after installing 44 anyone else?

I've set my phone to vibrate when it holster.. and it's vibrating fine with .44 installed....

[Donbp]

Has ringer volume improved over .42? Of course maybe I have been the only one to notice how low it is compared to 4.2 or maybe only my phone has been affected by it.

[OrionXBeta]

Im having a hard time getting this one to work for some reason. Ive updated to other OS's no problem. I setup the install to go overnight so i could wake up to it being ready. I woke up this morning to an APP 200 error. So I reloaded the OS the restored all of my options. All of my third party apps are lost and to top it off my network status is OFF. Its not even trying to connect to the network. So Im kind of lost on this one.

Well you learn something new everyday i guess. I needed to get into manage connections and turn on my radio manually.

Still this install was a hassle and a half to get working. Im restoring my preferences and other apps right now. Ill update with more info later.

Im just now working all the kinks out. Im not sure why this install was such a nightmare. I lost all of my third party apps, Im going to find them all again and install.

App 200 Error
Reinstall with radio off
Formatted and reinstalled
Manage connections>turned radio on
Browser icon missing>resend service books

If anyone else has these issues let me know!

[JLeny]

I agree. The ringer volume is a bit on the low side.


Has ringer volume improved over .42? Of course maybe I have been the only one to notice how low it is compared to 4.2 or maybe only my phone has been affected by it.

[ricpac]

Yup, it's just the same. I just set it one level higher.

[black betty]

I am not sure what i am doing wrong, after d/l and installing all the other beta w/o any problems i am getting this file- 8320_4.5.0.44.1.2D0D17 efw file 82.124kb. and i am unable to do anything w it. i have d/l to run app and save app. same results. :cry:

[ricpac]

I am confused. Are you saying that's the file you're getting after the download?

[black betty]

yes

[JSanders]

Hard to say what you are doing wrong, we have no idea where you are downloading the file from, what might have been done to the file, etc. And , please don't say, either.

But that is not a normal installer filename. Whoever put the file there must have played with it.

[black betty]

trying this d/l again. but it is the same file, as it ask if i want to replace file in folder

[black betty]

not to worry J i know the rules

[JSanders]

I understand, I know you do. Is it an EXE file you are getting?

[black betty]

its a EFW file

[black betty]

not a big deal i can wait, looks like an official release is going to happen soon seeing that DM 4.5 was released.

[black betty]

this is the discribtion of the D/L. Name. 8320_4.5.0.44.1.2D0D17.EFW
TYPE. Umx attachmentfile 80.1 MB

This is where i have gotten all of my beta releases and they all have worked so i have no reason to doubt this site, as i am sure it is the same place most people are getting this from.

[GT5L]

Wirelessly posted

I want a 8329!!!
You know I just got it, i was wondering why you said you wanted a 8329 until i read my own post where I mistyped 8320 as 8329 the 0 and the 9 are close to each other on the bb kb ;-)

[Inphektion]

Ive removed the reporting software package by deleting the contents of the folder. And regained about 4 megs.

what folder? I don't see any new folder...

[tschweitzer]

That efw file is a zip file that has been renamed by an antivirus program. Try renaming it to a zip and then extracting it.

[jsincere]

I would appreciate if someone using 4.5.0.44 could test if their phone shuts off and resets when going into to Media > My Pictures. This is happening to me using 4.5.0.42 when loading pictures from my 8GB memory card only, not from the device memory though. Its starts to load the thumbnails kind of slow and when its gets to the last picture it just BOOM resets. I have to save all my pics to device memory so i dont have this problem. I also noticed that if i view my pictures as "list" not "thumbnails" the reset does not occur, and im able to view all the pics fine in fullscreen. I guess its only happening when it loads the thumbnails. the problem with that is that i cant set it to view as "list" by default everytime i go into the folder. I hope they fixed this in .44
im hoping also this is not a memory card issue, because i have like 2gigs of music on it, and the media player and the whole thing works awsome... its like having an 8GB iphone, i have no issues with anything on my memory card, only when loading the damn thumbs from pictures in it.


BTW sorry I using the 8310 curve w/ ATT.

[JLeny]

The issue you describe does not happen to me. (4.5.44 on T-Mobile)

I would appreciate if someone using 4.5.0.44 could test if their phone shuts off and resets when going into to Media > My Pictures. This is happening to me using 4.5.0.42 when loading pictures from my 8GB memory card only, not from the device memory though. Its starts to load the thumbnails kind of slow and when its gets to the last picture it just BOOM resets. I have to save all my pics to device memory so i dont have this problem. I also noticed that if i view my pictures as "list" not "thumbnails" the reset does not occur, and im able to view all the pics fine in fullscreen. I guess its only happening when it loads the thumbnails. the problem with that is that i cant set it to view as "list" by default everytime i go into the folder. I hope they fixed this in .44
im hoping also this is not a memory card issue, because i have like 2gigs of music on it, and the media player and the whole thing works awsome... its like having an 8GB iphone, i have no issues with anything on my memory card, only when loading the damn thumbs from pictures in it.


BTW sorry I using the 8310 curve w/ ATT.

[Azurelimits]

So I downloaded DM 4.5 and it says it installed but the shortcuts are dead. I searched for the actual exe and I couldn't find it. Does anyone know whats going on?

[monotremata]

Just finished installing over here.. Havent noticed any difference yet except..
The damn thing likes to take its time when I hit the trackball to select an icon or open anything..

[monotremata]

So I downloaded DM 4.5 and it says it installed but the shortcuts are dead. I searched for the actual exe and I couldn't find it. Does anyone know whats going on?

Did you download the Desktop Manager or just the Device Manager?
Double check which one you got you probably need to scroll farther down the page and find the DESKTOP Manager not the DEVICE manager.
I did the same thing and was wondering where the Desktop Manager went after I had supposedly just installed it..

[tschweitzer]

I would appreciate if someone using 4.5.0.44 could test if their phone shuts off and resets when going into to Media > My Pictures. This is happening to me using 4.5.0.42 when loading pictures from my 8GB memory card only, not from the device memory though. Its starts to load the thumbnails kind of slow and when its gets to the last picture it just BOOM resets. I have to save all my pics to device memory so i dont have this problem. I also noticed that if i view my pictures as "list" not "thumbnails" the reset does not occur, and im able to view all the pics fine in fullscreen. I guess its only happening when it loads the thumbnails. the problem with that is that i cant set it to view as "list" by default everytime i go into the folder. I hope they fixed this in .44
im hoping also this is not a memory card issue, because i have like 2gigs of music on it, and the media player and the whole thing works awsome... its like having an 8GB iphone, i have no issues with anything on my memory card, only when loading the damn thumbs from pictures in it.


BTW sorry I using the 8310 curve w/ ATT.

Have you formatted the card with the 4.5 OS. Sometimes issues like these can be resolved by first copying everything to your computer then formatting the card with the BlackBerry then copying everything back.

[jsincere]

actually i havent tried that because i just got the media card yesterday brand spanking new. The first thing i did is loaded it onto my BB. then i took it out and put it on my laptop to upload all my music and stuff and i noticed that the BB had made its own directory on the card with forlders to all the diffrent media.. pictures..music..documents.. ect. so i just uploaded all my music to the music folder. then i moved all my pictures from the device memory to the media card, pictures folder. Im gona try the formatting thing right now and ill get back here to post what happens...

[jsincere]

WOW! BIG PROBLEM NOW... I formatted the card... Cool, I started to move my pictures from device memory to the media card..Cool, after about uploading 7 pics it suddenly shut off!!! ok so now its starts to reset and and as soon as i see the ATT logo screen just before it comes back on it resets again.. now it has been doing the reset like 3 times and I cant get the phone to stay on...WTF?!?!?! im removing the media card now and trying to start it up.. Do you guyts think it could be related to 1 pciture? it seems to happen everytime it starts to load up a picture of my sister that i got from her via MMS. im gona delete that pic from the card and try this again.

[jsincere]

OK guys sorry for the panic. I found the Issue it was related to a corrupted image file, the one my sis sent me. she said she got it from "myspace" wich is probaly why it was currupted. anyways im not having any more issues with that. i got all my pics and music on the media card and it all works fine. Thanks for your inputs.

now im gona have a little talk with my sister... LOL

on a side note... I havent had any major issues using .42 at all.. it all seems to work perfect, do you guys suggest upgrading to .44 just because it is more stable, smoother and more battery life from what i have heard? or stick with .42? I just dont want to upgrade and then actually deal with new bugs and stuff.

[Dreadz24]

Can you tell me where you downloaded it from? Thx8-)

[nfl46]

Can you tell me where you downloaded it from? Thx8-)

Google it. It's not hard to find. I'm new to Blackberry and I googled it and found it in less than a minute.

[black betty]

WOW someone did change the file name, and now its corrected w exe. currently D/L. thanks all

[tschweitzer]

No problem.

[misthos]

Finally decided to move from the latest 4.2 OS to this beta. While the video feature is cool the improved appearance of the address book, calendar, browser, and more is completely worth it. And I thought the best feature was that I finally got some of the memory back. I had to reboot the 4.2 because it would drop from 8 to 4 MB every day. This beta immediately put me back up over 13 MB. Seems stable and UMA works. Very nice.

[kurrupt_1]

2.7.0.61

What is the full file name for 4.5.0.44...with the PBr, rel?

[black betty]

just finished w this upgrade, and w DM 4.5 i did not have to re install anything. automatically re installed everything. so far so good.

[BCollins521]

I installed it last night and seems like the memory leakage is pretty bad. After a soft reset I'm at like 12-14mb free and after a short bit I'm down to like 4-6mb. Nothing I'm doing is any different just texting throughout the day and reading Viigo. When I had .42 on it I wasn't losing memory that quick...I still had it throughout the day and never went under 10mb.

Any idea's?

[BCollins521]

Now I'm down to 11mb and haven't really done anything to it except let it sit on the couch, thinking I should put .42 back on my 8320....

[NCBuckeye]

12-14 is low to begin with

[BCollins521]

Yea that's what I was thinking, I had more with 4.2 I took off voice command, and most of the extra stuff that would be loaded on. Can't seem to figure out what is taking so much memory up

[ubizmo]

I've switched to YouMail, but I find that even though I've changed the voicemail speed dial number to the YouMail number, holding '1' still connects me to T-mobile voicemail. I don't know if this is an OS thing or not--probably not.

And of course, like other T-mobile people, I don't get the VM icon.

[JLeny]

Go into phone options then voice mail and place the you mail phone number there.


I've switched to YouMail, but I find that even though I've changed the voicemail speed dial number to the YouMail number, holding '1' still connects me to T-mobile voicemail. I don't know if this is an OS thing or not--probably not.

And of course, like other T-mobile people, I don't get the VM icon.

[John Clark]

If you do that, make sure you write down the original TMobile voicemail number you had in there. I left my TMobile voicemail number in the voicemail setting and just changed the "w" speed dial to the youmail number. It's working fine for me.

This voicemail issue is said to be fixed in a later OS version.

[xyrcncp]

If you do that, make sure you write down the original TMobile voicemail number you had in there. I left my TMobile voicemail number in the voicemail setting and just changed the "w" speed dial to the youmail number. It's working fine for me.

Yep. Exactly what I did. I'm loving YouMail though and I also don't think I'll be going back to TMO's even after they fix the icon issue. People who call me think it's great too.

[JLeny]

John,

Do you know what the release number is where this issue has been fixed?

If you do that, make sure you write down the original TMobile voicemail number you had in there. I left my TMobile voicemail number in the voicemail setting and just changed the "w" speed dial to the youmail number. It's working fine for me.

This voicemail issue is said to be fixed in a later OS version.

[ubizmo]

If you do that, make sure you write down the original TMobile voicemail number you had in there. I left my TMobile voicemail number in the voicemail setting and just changed the "w" speed dial to the youmail number. It's working fine for me.

This voicemail issue is said to be fixed in a later OS version.

Yes, thanks, this works now. The problem was that I created a YouMail Address book entry with an error in the number, and assigned it to 'w'. I spotted the error and corrected it in the address book, but doing so didn't automatically correct the speed dial entry. I had to do that as a separate step. So far I'm happy with YouMail, even without the icon. I wonder if the icon fix will work for YouMail too, or only T-Mobile voicemail. Since the option doesn't appear in the YouMail setup, I'm guessing it won't work.

[monotremata]

Think I finally see this memory leak now.
Just checked mine and it was down to about 3MB.
Pulled the battery and restarted now Im back up to a whopping 5MB!!

Whats odd, before installing the newest beta release, my BB was regularly at about 12MB.
Im pretty damn sure all the pics I have on the phone have been there awhile too so maybe theres something big I couldve taken out of the new install..

[John Clark]

Even 12 MB is way too low. Use the Optimize your BB post in my signature. You need to fix that or you will have issues.

[ubizmo]

Tangential question: Although OS 4.5 has built-in voice notes, I prefer to use the Dollars5 vNotes application that I purchased, because it doesn't force you to use the AMR file format. I sometimes send voice files to people and a lot of people don't like having to install RealPlayer--I don't like it either. So.....do you suppose it's possible to remove the voice notes from the OS to free up space?

[John Clark]

I'm sure that it is....give it a try. There should be a .cod for it in the java folder.

[ubizmo]

There is net_rim_bb_voicenotesrecorder, which is only 105 kb. I thought it would be a bigger file. There's also net_rim_bb_voice, which may be something else. I'm not sure it's worth the trouble, if I only save 105 kb, but I may try it anyway.

[OrionXBeta]

After the semi nightmare install I had with .44 it seems everything is good now. Those issues were only small problems that had quick fixes. Though I didn't know them at the time. I'm prepared now.

I'm glad to report better battery life and that the browser bug has been fixed.

[Mandizzle]

Upgraded to .44 from .42 last night. It seems to be running a lot quicker for me now. Especially messaging is hella quick now. I noticed lately on .42 the messaging was lagging big time.

Haven't had any problems yet and hopefully it stays that way.

[flash24]

I'll stick with .42 for now then.

[whodey1991]

but for some reason my platform says 2.7.0.61

Should it say .62 since this is Release 62?

[John Clark]

Platform version is different than application version and is differnt than Release version. 3 different version numbers referring to different things. We commonly refer to OS's by their Application Version.

[whodey1991]

Platform version is different than application version and is differnt than Release version. 3 different version numbers referring to different things. We commonly refer to OS's by their Application Version.

In watching these threads, you are the master.

[monotremata]

Even 12 MB is way too low. Use the Optimize your BB post in my signature. You need to fix that or you will have issues.

Just did.. Removed the AT&T themes, any third party themes I had except my nifty Mac OS X looking one. The sample video, wall papers, PTT etc.. Only things I couldnt get rid of are the Dimension themes (I replied about it in the memory optimizing thread actually hehe)..

Only third party apps installed are Google Maps, Docs to Go, and Sudoku.

Still 12MB free. I seem to remember when I first got it having around 18-19 free right out of the box with just the default AT&T stuff on it..
Only thing I can think of is maybe its my mail box or text messages taking up all that space. I do have a few MB of pictures on it. Ill get those off and onto my Desktop and see if that makes any difference..

Quick question about email if anyone knows...
I use my BB with my regular imap email account. When I delete an individual email I get the option of either just on the handheld or handheld and server..
If I go to the top of my mailbox on the BB and use the 'Delete prior' option, will that wipe everything off the server or just the BB??
Ive been afraid to move past the 'Delete all prior items?' confirmation just in case..

[John Clark]

"Delete Prior" will delete only from handheld, if I recall correctly.

Get those pics off of device memory and onto a memory card. Also, you can check your database sizes by going to Options >Status >Hit menu key and select "database sizes." You can see what else is eating memory as far as data goes.

[monotremata]

Oh durrr. I forgot I can go check database sizes! I do have a ton of text messages on here too that I imagine arent exactly space saving..

I keep telling myself to go get an SD card but just havent yet hehe.
I REALLY want one now that I can use the video cam!!

Looks like theres a whole megabyte just between both Messages and MMS Messages to free up. SMS is about 500k or so.
Theres a database called Content Store thats 11MB.. Whats in that my pics and ringtones?
Total database sizes are 13MB.. So yeah theres my extra memory..

Although just a few mins ago I went outside for a smoke break, decided to pull the battery and restart again.. Came back up at 12MB.. Now just a few mins later its at 11..

[John Clark]

Content Store = Pics & Ringtones, etc. That's your space hog.

[whodey1991]

Ever since I loaded 4.5.0.44 I am not getting a sync of outbound messages from Outlook. Meaning when I send from the BB I get a copy in my Outlook outbox, but when I send from Outlook I stopped getting the messages in my sent list on the BB. I am on BES. The only odd thing that happened was during the load I got an error that the backup failed, but I did a restore and everything ok.

I always follow John's memory approach, deleting PTT, Help, and this time I deleted Quincy.

Any ideas?

[John Clark]

Instead of "deleting Quincy" you can remove the entire pack of RIM Internal Tools by going to Control Panel >Add/Remove Programs and just uninstall RIM Internal Tools.

Not sure about the mail issue.

[whodey1991]

Instead of "deleting Quincy" you can remove the entire pack of RIM Internal Tools by going to Control Panel >Add/Remove Programs and just uninstall RIM Internal Tools.

Not sure about the mail issue.

Thanks for that since if I have to start over that's an easier way!

More on the email thing....on the BB under email>options>settings>folder redirection, the sent items folder is not checked, and it wont let me select it!

[ubizmo]

I got an email from YouMail support, stating that at this time only ATT allows access to the voicemail icon (MWI) feature. So the OS upgrades aren't going to affect that for the other carriers unless they decide to change this policy. They also said that if T-mobile changed the policy they would send notification via email to their T-mobile users.

[monotremata]

JC - I found another neato thing while cleaning up memory yesterday..

If you open up Media, and use the menu key and select Options...
I had that entry for Device Memory Limit set to 12MB.
I moved it up to 15 and it went up to 15 after a battery pull.
Dropped all my pics to my desktop yesterday, Im back up to 19 now..

So if anybodys device is getting stuck at either 5 or 12MB all the time and you think you should have more available, check the Media Options, I think by default its set to 5 but I cant remember cause it was a month or so ago I first changed it..

[mirzmirz]

Does this release exist for a 8300 curve ?
thx

[JSanders]

Not yet, no.

[sjsilverman]

Is this release still frying Tmo SIMs?

[ryan661]

I'm satisfied with 4.5 working great so far, It now has an awesome browser so i don't have to scroll through every line of text, video camera, voice memos, now reads up to 8GB micro SD cards, (previous 4.2OS would not >( ) haha but now it does, media playback is fine still, adds an equalizer from what i understand, basically i'm happy, runs the same or better, and everything looks a bit classier haha

Cheers

[beginer]

:oops:
just to know what about the language. I don't mind if the device language is english but for me is important to use local characters, as accents, ñ, etc. Is it possible after this english-assian languages upgrade?


thanks from a newbie on bb.

[carsmovies]

I'm satisfied with 4.5 working great so far, It now has an awesome browser so i don't have to scroll through every line of text, video camera, voice memos, now reads up to 8GB micro SD cards, (previous 4.2OS would not >( ) haha but now it does, media playback is fine still, adds an equalizer from what i understand, basically i'm happy, runs the same or better, and everything looks a bit classier haha

Cheers

Why are you bringing this up in an old outdated OS thread?