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nfl46
06-28-2008, 06:41 AM
I read it on the Crackberry forums.

(y)

Sith_Apprentice
06-28-2008, 06:42 AM
.46 or .48?

nfl46
06-28-2008, 06:45 AM
.46 or .48?

.4(6)

Sith_Apprentice
06-28-2008, 06:46 AM
yet another in a very long list of betas that seem to come out every couple of days.

nfl46
06-28-2008, 06:48 AM
Yeah, they say the file is big. Around 126 MB. I wonder why. A few people posted links over there ... they are newbies, they'll be banned soon, lol. I guess they didn't read the rules.

NJBlackBerry
06-28-2008, 06:50 AM
Yep. 48 is already out and no sign of when it is going to end!

Be very carefuly with the extra large files - the have LOTS of languages in them, and they probably are bundled with the RIM Internal Tools, including Quincy. The tool that tells RIM every time the BB is restarted.

Sith_Apprentice
06-28-2008, 06:50 AM
that sounds more like a Desktop Manager sized file for 4.6 rather than the software for the handheld.

vinmontRD
06-28-2008, 07:19 AM
Is it my imagination, or is the 8300 being marginalized these days? I've found .42 for the 8300, but .44 and .46 seem to have appeared for the 8310 and 8320, but there's little love for my dusty old 8300 out there...

Was hanging on, hoping to keep my 8300 up to date until a 9xxx appears for T-Mobile...but I'm definitely feeling like I'm being left on the sidelines these days...

- Jon

Sith_Apprentice
06-28-2008, 07:20 AM
the 8300 has a 4.5.0.48 out. Just not on the net

penguin3107
06-28-2008, 07:21 AM
Is it my imagination, or is the 8300 being marginalized these days? I've found .42 for the 8300, but .44 and .46 seem to have appeared for the 8310 and 8320, but there's little love for my dusty old 8300 out there...

Was hanging on, hoping to keep my 8300 up to date until a 9xxx appears for T-Mobile...but I'm definitely feeling like I'm being left on the sidelines these days...

- Jon

4.5.0.48 was leaked for the 8300 a few days ago.
It's likely not spreading like the other handhelds, since the 8310 and 8320 have basically replaced the 8300 and there's more demand for those models.

vinmontRD
06-28-2008, 07:24 AM
the 8300 has a 4.5.0.48 out. Just not on the net

Thx...I feel a bit less abandoned knowing that. Hoping to find it soon (or an official one). Seeing the .42 memory leak -- I was down to about 2mb free memory before rebooting the 8300 just now... It's slow: I was able to go for several days before getting to this point, but I'd rather have something closer to production grade on my Curve!

Fingers crossed for this to surface soon...

- Jon

vinmontRD
06-28-2008, 07:26 AM
4.5.0.48 was leaked for the 8300 a few days ago.
It's likely not spreading like the other handhelds, since the 8310 and 8320 have basically replaced the 8300 and there's more demand for those models.

I realize that re demand. Just have to hang on in the meantime I guess...

Dawg
06-28-2008, 07:35 AM
its funny these betas are like cheese to mice. Some one throws it out and the mice go crazy.

ndub33
06-28-2008, 07:48 AM
LOL...funny...I was was thinking more like a shark feeding frenzy.

JSanders
06-28-2008, 08:06 AM
Wirelessly posted (8310; The Juggernaut)

Vinmont, not wise to wait for your file free to go so low before rebooting.

oakie
06-28-2008, 08:11 AM
Thx...I feel a bit less abandoned knowing that. Hoping to find it soon (or an official one). Seeing the .42 memory leak -- I was down to about 2mb free memory before rebooting the 8300 just now... It's slow: I was able to go for several days before getting to this point, but I'd rather have something closer to production grade on my Curve!

Fingers crossed for this to surface soon...

- Jon

dont worry... you'll get an official release from T-Mobile by the 5th of July since they like to stay ahead of the curve due to not having any other "perks" like 3g.

the only bummer is they'll probably release 4.5.0.37, and we'll all be spending the 3-day weekend at a t-mobile store, waiting for fresh sim cards.

GT5L
06-28-2008, 08:28 AM
has anyone tried this 46 release on their 8320? does it fix the vm icon issue? does UMA still work? are there memory leaks with this release?

sheldonbk
06-28-2008, 08:37 AM
On the memory leak problems... I'm wondering if those people with bad memory leaks are running Viigo beta. The recent msg from Viigo said they have a very bad memory leak issue. IE. Is it the OS or Viigo??

GT5L
06-28-2008, 08:50 AM
Wirelessly posted (bb8320TMO)

I've had memory leaks with all betas some more than others and I have been using either stabdard or beta viigo at the time among other apps.

vinmontRD
06-28-2008, 09:03 AM
Wirelessly posted (8310; The Juggernaut)

Vinmont, not wise to wait for your file free to go so low before rebooting.

JS - yes - I realize that - this has got to be the first time since I got the 8300 that this happened. As I like to try various apps and OS versions, and I've loaded / unloaded loads of stuff over the past year, I tend to check free memory fairly frequently to see what's phone-friendly and what isn't.

After a reboot, I'm back at about 12MB, which has been typical for a while now. I recently put an 8GB card in the phone, and will be moving all images and most ringtones there. Also already went through the exercise of removing foreign language files, the BB help file, BB messenger (I use JiveTalk), etc.

I've taken off a number of unused themes that I had collected over the last year, and will probably stip off a few more.

Now that BBWeather works again, I dropped YWeather and that other free one published recently (only need the weather once!).

3rd party apps down to BBWeather, Viigo (tango beta - that might be a memory leak culprit?), MaraTick, JiveTalk, Opera Mini, Live Search and Google Maps. Got rid of the Yahoo applets -- cute, but slow and big. Also have the updated free version of Docs to Go.

With all this, I average about 11.5 to 12MB free memory, and the 8300 seems fine with this - no lost messages, etc., no freeze ups - works fine. I just have to remember to keep an eye on it until/unless I manage to load up a more stable version of the OS...

- Jon

Jason Mark
06-28-2008, 09:36 AM
.46 is out for the 8310 also.....

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll288/rederikus/bb46.jpg

Donbp
06-28-2008, 12:43 PM
Yeah, they say the file is big. Around 126 MB. I wonder why. A few people posted links over there ... they are newbies, they'll be banned soon, lol. I guess they didn't read the rules.

It's really only 89meg. The rest is the internal tools which are packaged separately.

Shaythong
06-28-2008, 12:55 PM
What are the improvements for 8100 4.5.0.46 compared to 4.5.0.44? Does the camera work perfectly or still has the darkness and white balance problem?

Garz08
06-28-2008, 01:40 PM
On the memory leak problems... I'm wondering if those people with bad memory leaks are running Viigo beta. The recent msg from Viigo said they have a very bad memory leak issue. IE. Is it the OS or Viigo??


Viigo has always been known for memory leaks.

BCollins521
06-28-2008, 01:44 PM
Viigo has always been known for memory leaks.

On .44 I was sitting at like 12-16 free memory...just wiped the handheld and put had pretty much everything but Viigo on there and was up to 20-22....kinda sad. Like the little program

Oh, and .46 does have Quincy loaded in the OS

John Clark
06-28-2008, 01:48 PM
It's really only 89meg. The rest is the internal tools which are packaged separately.

What do they add up to when the trojans are added on rapidshare?

John Clark
06-28-2008, 01:49 PM
On .44 I was sitting at like 12-16 free memory...just wiped the handheld and put had pretty much everything but Viigo on there and was up to 20-22....kinda sad. Like the little program

Oh, and .46 does have Quincy loaded in the OS

Quincy isn't loaded in the OS. It's a separate installer that's bundled with the OS. Uninstall it from Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel.

BCollins521
06-28-2008, 01:51 PM
Quincy isn't loaded in the OS. It's a separate installer that's bundled with the OS. Uninstall it from Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel.

Yea I saw that in another post about it...just thought I would mention it so people would know to take it off

flash24
06-28-2008, 02:27 PM
I'm starting to get sick and tired of this

BCollins521
06-28-2008, 02:42 PM
Eh it's fun and you know it! Lol

andrews240
06-28-2008, 02:50 PM
.42 has been so stable on my 8100, I don't think that I will upgrade to a higher official release until it's forum thread reaches about 10 pages of feedback posts. I can live with slightly dark (blue) pictures.

GT5L
06-28-2008, 08:57 PM
Wirelessly posted (bb8320TMO)

So no one has answered my question, is UMA still working, does 46 fixes the missing voicemail icon issue?

NJBlackBerry
06-28-2008, 08:59 PM
UMA works.
Voice Mail icon works.
Can't answer memory leaks as I've never had that problem.

Or, VMI OK.

BCollins521
06-28-2008, 09:14 PM
Memory Leaks seem to be better than .44

VizagDude
06-28-2008, 09:47 PM
Good to know that VM icon bug is fixed in this realese. This was killing me as I missed out on couple of important time bound messages (ok, I dont want any PMs from the third party app guyz selling me the text or email VM service).

I'm istalling .46 on my device as Im typing this message.

John Clark
06-28-2008, 09:52 PM
You're missing out....the Youmail.com service is great! I tried it out due to the missing MWI on TMo and now I won't be switching back. It's far better than TMo's VoiceMail system....and it's free. To each his/her own, though.

Shaythong
06-28-2008, 11:11 PM
I installed 4.6.0.46 but when I tested if the voice mail icon would show up, it didn't. I called my BlackBerry phone using another phone but my BB didn't have a Voice mail icon. I'm on T-Mobile. Does it take a while before it shows up or what?

fantom1023
06-29-2008, 12:21 AM
I installed 4.6.0.46 but when I tested if the voice mail icon would show up, it didn't. I called my BlackBerry phone using another phone but my BB didn't have a Voice mail icon. I'm on T-Mobile. Does it take a while before it shows up or what?

WOW 4.6 is out now for the BB's!!!??? JJ, I know its a typo LOL

Shaythong
06-29-2008, 03:13 AM
WOW 4.6 is out now for the BB's!!!??? JJ, I know its a typo LOL

Good to know that VM icon bug is fixed in this realese. This was killing me as I missed out on couple of important time bound messages (ok, I dont want any PMs from the third party app guyz selling me the text or email VM service).

I'm istalling .46 on my device as Im typing this message.
I sent a Voicemail using another phone to my T-Mobile BB 8100 phone but nothing shows up. I use 4.5.0.46.

NJBlackBerry
06-29-2008, 06:58 AM
Voice mail is fixed on 4.5.0.48.

GT5L
06-29-2008, 09:57 AM
Voice mail is fixed on 4.5.0.48.
Well, I can only get my hands on .46, so no VMI for me....

Lokheed
06-29-2008, 12:46 PM
On .44 I was sitting at like 12-16 free memory...just wiped the handheld and put had pretty much everything but Viigo on there and was up to 20-22....kinda sad. Like the little program

Oh, and .46 does have Quincy loaded in the OS

You can remove all the dev tool using this method: BlackBerry Free: Removing Quincy, Bug Report and Battery Report from os 4.5 Beta (http://blackberryfree.blogspot.com/2008/06/removing-quincy-bug-report-and-battery.html)

Jason Mark
06-29-2008, 01:36 PM
or just go to control panel>add/remove/ and uninstall it, and run app loader

Shaythong
06-29-2008, 01:52 PM
or just go to control panel>add/remove/ and uninstall it, and run app loader

This method worked for me. Remove the internal apps from the control panel (add and remove section).

Jason Mark
06-29-2008, 01:55 PM
yeah, it's def the easiest...lol, no chance of bricking because you didn't pay attention and removed wrong file..:razz:

Surfish
06-29-2008, 02:01 PM
Installed today (4.5.0.46 ), MVI working, all 3rdparty apps working.
Only 11 mb free space, checking for memory leak.

Jason Mark
06-29-2008, 02:19 PM
Installed today (4.5.0.46 ), MVI working, all 3rdparty apps working.
Only 11 mb free space, checking for memory leak.

you need to do some optimizing...bad....

mtnbike
06-29-2008, 03:01 PM
just upgraded to .46 8320 tmo htm email works etc.... but still no mwi. I've got youmail setup but not a fan. Anyone else have mwi problems on tmo with this version?

[IFC]Area51
06-29-2008, 03:26 PM
I'm starting to get sick and tired of this
Me too but i love it. haha

John Clark
06-29-2008, 04:19 PM
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

just upgraded to .46 8320 tmo htm email works etc.... but still no mwi. I've got youmail setup but not a fan. Anyone else have mwi problems on tmo with this version?

Message Waiting indicator isn't fixed until .48.

[IFC]Area51
06-29-2008, 05:54 PM
The only thing i have noticed so far is that FINALLY!!!!!, AutoDim has been fixed, whats that so hard RIM? Jeeeeeez but thanks anyways.

Besides the memory having a slow leak in all versions, it hasn't been a problem for me at all.

I can say that 4.5.0.46 has been an improvement due to them noticing such a small detail left which was the auto dim feature. Anything above .46 is good for me, haha. Can't wait to get .48

Lokheed
06-29-2008, 10:09 PM
.46 on the Pearl still doesn't fix the camera. Flash doesn't work and the lighting adjustment is non-existent. Been like this for numerous builds... I guess this is not a priority for them? Sigh.

justajason
06-29-2008, 11:09 PM
I like the .46 build. Seems to be working prety well. Better than the others by far.

ohad_129
06-29-2008, 11:57 PM
is it omly for 8300 and 8310 or also for other models
thx
eli

John Clark
06-29-2008, 11:58 PM
I haven't seen any 8703e 4.5 OS's.

hotburnttoast
06-30-2008, 01:04 AM
Wirelessly posted

Getting ready to load .46 on my 8320 with TMO. Will report in 24hours after tinking with it. Haven't found .48 for the 8320.

stealthx32
06-30-2008, 01:44 AM
This is something I just noticed...(maybe new in all 4.5's)

If you use speed dial, it'll make a quick tone to let you know you've done so. It's not listed in the ringtones, so it must be an embedded sound somewhere.

John Clark
06-30-2008, 01:45 AM
That was added in 4.2.2, I believe. It's been there quite a while, anyway. If you put it on vibrate or quiet profiles, you won't get the tones.

david_uk
06-30-2008, 03:05 AM
I like the .46 build. Seems to be working prety well. Better than the others by far.

Certainly web browsing is much snappier in this version.

[IFC]Area51
06-30-2008, 12:40 PM
Area51;993181']The only thing i have noticed so far is that FINALLY!!!!!, AutoDim has been fixed, whats that so hard RIM? Jeeeeeez but thanks anyways.

Besides the memory having a slow leak in all versions, it hasn't been a problem for me at all.

I can say that 4.5.0.46 has been an improvement due to them noticing such a small detail left which was the auto dim feature. Anything above .46 is good for me, haha. Can't wait to get .48
Damn it, spoke to soon. Auto Dim bug still exist.(n)(n)

gatortone
06-30-2008, 12:57 PM
So, I guess I'm a gluton for punishment...but if .46 fries my SIM card like .42 did, then I'll learn my lesson for sure...maybe. :S

Anyway, the only issue I've experienced is while on a phone call, the phone reboots. I've taken out the media card, so that can't be a culprit. Any ideas on what it could be? My 3rd party apps are Google Maps, Facebook 1.2, and Opera Mini. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

John Clark
06-30-2008, 01:05 PM
I don't think .46 will fry your sim card. Not sure on the reboots.

hotburnttoast
06-30-2008, 01:31 PM
Well so far so good, I have more memory with this release, Only 3rd party app running is windows live serach and that is it. The UMA handoff drops calls for me. For example if I am on a phone call while on EDGE and I walk into work while on that call, the UMA handoff makes the call failed, and I cant redial for like a few minutes. I get the call failed message on the screen. Anybody else have this issue

hotburnttoast
06-30-2008, 01:33 PM
So, I guess I'm a gluton for punishment...but if .46 fries my SIM card like .42 did, then I'll learn my lesson for sure...maybe. :S

Anyway, the only issue I've experienced is while on a phone call, the phone reboots. I've taken out the media card, so that can't be a culprit. Any ideas on what it could be? My 3rd party apps are Google Maps, Facebook 1.2, and Opera Mini. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

I havent had fried SIM cards since .37. Havent had any issues with .42 or .44
I just loaded .46 on my 8320 so we shall see.(y)

John Clark
06-30-2008, 01:33 PM
Fried sim. Tastes just like chicken.

strike2tamu
06-30-2008, 01:34 PM
I am running .46 and it is doing good so far, only getting about 35 megs freespace and thats after JC's cleaning and no 3rd party apps.

EDIT: LOL as soon as I posted this my phone just restarted twice...now with 38 MB free.

gmichelson
06-30-2008, 01:42 PM
I got a bit of restarts with .46, have not been able to pin point what it is - but I think it's UMA related.

gatortone
06-30-2008, 01:49 PM
Don't think it's UMA related. Mine rebooted while on the road and on the phone. I have since turned off the WI-FI. I'll let you know if I still get the reboots.

strike2tamu
06-30-2008, 01:53 PM
Lol I am unistalling a 4.5 version once again...long live 4.2 I guess.

Rizzo
06-30-2008, 01:57 PM
I loaded up .46 last night and it is working good for me. I only have about 20mb free, but that is the most I have seen in a while. I usually have between 12-15mb free. How much space does the voice activated dialing take up? I never use it but haven't gotten around to removing it yet.

BCollins521
06-30-2008, 02:04 PM
So far this is the most stable build that I have loaded on my 8320...I have a lot more free memory...after a reboot I have about 21 free and that's with a couple games and the usual. Nothing fancy. So far I like it over the .44 for memory space.

strike2tamu
06-30-2008, 02:06 PM
I think T-mobile is messing w/ me, works fine when I turn the radio off.

BCollins521
06-30-2008, 02:10 PM
I haven't had any reboot problems with my 8320

gatortone
06-30-2008, 03:04 PM
After a 7 min call, a 2 min call, and a 5 min call - all with the WI-FI turned off - everything is functioning fine. I'll keep testing it.

BCollins521/those without reboot problems - do you have UMA/WI-FI turned on?

BCollins521
06-30-2008, 03:12 PM
I use Wifi at home, don't use @<hidden> No reboot problems when I browse with the Wifi

-Brian

jsincere
06-30-2008, 03:41 PM
Anybody test this on 8310 yet? im thinking of upgrading right now but im a little scared... .42 is running flawlessly besides a little laggy UI. Always better to upgrade I heard .46 has smoother UI, but im not sure how it would react.

Surfish
06-30-2008, 03:46 PM
Deleting .46, the crashing amoung other issues is to much for me, will see how .48 plays out.

jsincere
06-30-2008, 03:48 PM
Deleting .46, the crashing amoung other issues is to much for me, will see how .48 plays out.

Is this happening on 8310's? anyone know?

stealthx32
06-30-2008, 03:55 PM
From what I've read, most the reboot issues relate to the memory card and needing a format.

strike2tamu
06-30-2008, 04:12 PM
From what I've read, most the reboot issues relate to the memory card and needing a format.
I can take my card out and it still does it.

jsincere
06-30-2008, 04:15 PM
im scared to try it

strike2tamu
06-30-2008, 04:24 PM
lol, you can revert back if it gives you trouble.

Jason Mark
06-30-2008, 04:35 PM
im scared to try it

don't be.....46 is running smooth for most ppl... I've found this process works pretty well: Install OS to comp straight up/ Wipe device; use JL_Cmder to resettofactory;then wipe device/do whatever optimizing you need/plug in BB and install to phone...

Surfish
06-30-2008, 04:44 PM
I can take my card out and it still does it.

DITTO

david_uk
06-30-2008, 05:09 PM
Anybody test this on 8310 yet? im thinking of upgrading right now but im a little scared... .42 is running flawlessly besides a little laggy UI. Always better to upgrade I heard .46 has smoother UI, but im not sure how it would react.

.46 stable so far on this 8310. Seems to release more memory. Faster browsing, too.

flash24
06-30-2008, 05:27 PM
Yay! the Voice Note issue(voice note not playing) on blackberry messenger is fixed on .46 :)

stealthx32
06-30-2008, 06:04 PM
I can take my card out and it still does it.

Have you tried installing it "as recommended", i.e. without stripping it down to 38 MB?

MicroT86
06-30-2008, 06:44 PM
Just installed 46 on my T-Mobile 8320. Everything seems to be running smoothly but I am not getting voice mail notifications. Anyone experiencing this and have a fix?

John Clark
06-30-2008, 06:49 PM
This is a known issue with TMobile and OS versions 4.5.0.46

strike2tamu
06-30-2008, 06:53 PM
Have you tried installing it "as recommended", i.e. without stripping it down to 38 MB?
Yea I let it install fully before taking out the cod's and run for an hour or so...it restarted once during this time, then stripped it down and started the serious reboot problems. All other times I had 20 MB and left it alone (did not take any files off) and it still restarted all the time. I might try cleaning the memory card completely and leaving all the stuff on there again when I get time to mess with it again...probably on the 4th.

strike2tamu
06-30-2008, 06:54 PM
don't be.....46 is running smooth for most ppl... I've found this process works pretty well: Install OS to comp straight up/ Wipe device; use JL_Cmder to resettofactory;then wipe device/do whatever optimizing you need/plug in BB and install to phone...
I have never wiped my phone, think this would help? I always just install straight from my old version?

John Clark
06-30-2008, 07:05 PM
Many say this is the way to go. Every 5 or 6 OS upgrades I wipe the device and start over.

crevis24
06-30-2008, 08:18 PM
I think the voice mail icon missing is still an issue on .46 with SunCom too

strike2tamu
06-30-2008, 09:09 PM
Wirelessly posted (8100 Strike 2)

Many say this is the way to go. Every 5 or 6 OS upgrades I wipe the device and start over.

I will have to try this in a few days.

pinhead
06-30-2008, 09:31 PM
How much free memory do you guys have after loading this OS fresh? I am at 21.4 MB right now but have loaded Google Maps, TeleNav, and Opera Mini.

kjdoug
06-30-2008, 09:39 PM
:cry: Man my 8120 is craving a new OS come on 4.5.0.46!!!!! Where are you? lol

BCollins521
06-30-2008, 09:54 PM
How much free memory do you guys have after loading this OS fresh? I am at 21.4 MB right now but have loaded Google Maps, TeleNav, and Opera Mini.

After a reboot, I have Beyond411, GMail, Uno, and whatever the regular install is (didn't remove anything before I installed) and I'm sitting at 20-21ish MB. That's also including my address book and calendar

jsincere
06-30-2008, 09:56 PM
don't be.....46 is running smooth for most ppl... I've found this process works pretty well: Install OS to comp straight up/ Wipe device; use JL_Cmder to resettofactory;then wipe device/do whatever optimizing you need/plug in BB and install to phone...

Ok I decided to jump into .46, on my wifes phone as a test dummy. What I discovered is WOW big difrence in UI performance, much much smoother. Her 500 song playlist scrolls so smooth, like an ipod! Definately more memory is free and I havent noticed any memory leakage. So im doing my phone at this very moment. I havent seen any reset issues eather, 10 min conversation with my sister and nada. I think this may be a keeper for me. Gona watch for bugs in the next couple of days but I feel like this may be it for me until an "Official RIM Release"....

Thanks for the advice.

madj42
06-30-2008, 10:09 PM
:cry: Man my 8120 is craving a new OS come on 4.5.0.46!!!!! Where are you? lol

I second this.. I keep looking for a version other than .42 and can't find it. I search every day! :-)

justajason
06-30-2008, 10:28 PM
Ok I decided to jump into .46, on my wifes phone as a test dummy. What I discovered is WOW big difrence in UI performance, much much smoother. Her 500 song playlist scrolls so smooth, like an ipod! Definately more memory is free and I havent noticed any memory leakage. So im doing my phone at this very moment. I havent seen any reset issues eather, 10 min conversation with my sister and nada. I think this may be a keeper for me. Gona watch for bugs in the next couple of days but I feel like this may be it for me until an "Official RIM Release"....

Thanks for the advice.

I like this one.. Its really smooth on our phones...

Jason Mark
06-30-2008, 10:33 PM
Ok I decided to jump into .46, on my wifes phone as a test dummy. What I discovered is WOW big difrence in UI performance, much much smoother. Her 500 song playlist scrolls so smooth, like an ipod! Definately more memory is free and I havent noticed any memory leakage. So im doing my phone at this very moment. I havent seen any reset issues eather, 10 min conversation with my sister and nada. I think this may be a keeper for me. Gona watch for bugs in the next couple of days but I feel like this may be it for me until an "Official RIM Release"....

Thanks for the advice.

Cool, good deal...But I'm going to tell you this.... My wife would kick my butt(being polite) if I used her phone as a test dummy...LMAO.... but no seriously, I'm glad every thing is up and running smooth...I've found that process to work pretty well...(y)

gatortone
06-30-2008, 11:09 PM
Wirelessly posted

After making several calls and turning off the wi-fi, the phone hasn't reboot. I even used a bluetooth headset for a 30 min call. So, I suggest trying turning off the wi-fi to see if that helps you. But so far, so good! I'll keep everyone posted if anything changes.
Oh, I'm back onuma.now.

Shaythong
06-30-2008, 11:30 PM
I'm running 4.5.0.46 currently but I needed the camera and the voice mail icon to work well. So now I'm downgrading back to 4.2.1.109. I don't really need a lot of these new features, only some are good but still 4.2.1.109 has a working camera and voice mail icon. (y)

irockash
06-30-2008, 11:34 PM
So has anyone downloaded a version without Quincy? I just got one, went to add/remove programs and don't see the internal tools.

justajason
06-30-2008, 11:39 PM
So has anyone downloaded a version without Quincy? I just got one, went to add/remove programs and don't see the internal tools.
Then youre in luck. Your steps just got a little shorter..

jhanning
07-01-2008, 08:58 AM
I can't even get .46 to load on my 8820. After the first device initialization, the app loader bombs out with an "unspecified error: [J:0x00000005]" and the device shows a 507 error screen. Anyone else have this issue? I got the same thing when i tried to load .42.

alexvega
07-01-2008, 09:06 AM
you could also just delete the RIMINTERNALTOOLS folder..

SLVR6
07-01-2008, 10:02 AM
There was no such folder for me in .44 or .46......less hassle!

dilipc
07-01-2008, 10:30 AM
There was no such folder for me in .44 or .46......less hassle!

That folder is on the PC, not on the BB...

Mark PPG
07-01-2008, 12:57 PM
Wirelessly posted

Guys, has the battery life improved on 46 or 48? That's really my biggest concern.

jsincere
07-01-2008, 01:08 PM
So has anyone downloaded a version without Quincy? I just got one, went to add/remove programs and don't see the internal tools.

The one i got also had just the OS without internal tools. Its was 2 separate files. I just downloaded the OS one w/o internal tools

mtnbike
07-01-2008, 01:28 PM
anyone having an issue with locking the keys while on the "front today" theme. I sued to be able to alt-ent and it would lock from both the main and apps page. Now it just locks on the app page. On the main screen the enter gets passed and open whatever is highlighted.

gatortone
07-01-2008, 02:08 PM
Update on my reboots - it doesn't matter if I have wi-fi on or off, but I do notice that whenever I talk to another mobile phone, whether they're VZW or AT&T, the phone reboots. However, I haven't gotten disconnected with my wife who is also on T-MO. I talked to someone over landline for about 30 minutes yesterday and that call never got the (re)boot. I'll try it again this afternoon.

I'm going to try a cleanwipe of my phone and then try to load this OS back on there. I haven't heard of anyone losing their SIM card on this version, so I feel confident that once I can figure out the reboots, this could be a fairly solid OS.

BCollins521
07-01-2008, 02:14 PM
anyone having an issue with locking the keys while on the "front today" theme. I sued to be able to alt-ent and it would lock from both the main and apps page. Now it just locks on the app page. On the main screen the enter gets passed and open whatever is highlighted.

If you have the "dial from homescreen" turn off you can just press the "k" button and it locks the keys

BCollins521
07-01-2008, 02:17 PM
Update on my reboots - it doesn't matter if I have wi-fi on or off, but I do notice that whenever I talk to another mobile phone, whether they're VZW or AT&T, the phone reboots. However, I haven't gotten disconnected with my wife who is also on T-MO. I talked to someone over landline for about 30 minutes yesterday and that call never got the (re)boot. I'll try it again this afternoon.

I'm going to try a cleanwipe of my phone and then try to load this OS back on there. I haven't heard of anyone losing their SIM card on this version, so I feel confident that once I can figure out the reboots, this could be a fairly solid OS.

Can't saw for VZW but I have called AT&T phones and it doesn't reboot...maybe it is a bad load. I wiped mine before I loaded it on, on accident cause it came up with a 506/571 error and I wiped it thinking that would fix it but didn't and I just needed to uncheck the "backup before installing" option on the DM

mtnbike
07-01-2008, 02:40 PM
@<hidden>

I use the dial from home screen all the time, and I never had the problem with 4.3, It stopped working with 4.5.37,44, and 46. Both my 8820 and 8320.

BCollins521
07-01-2008, 02:44 PM
Huh, maybe it was something RIM decided to take out or haven't caught. I took the dial from home screen off cause I like the shortcuts to things...much faster than just being able to make calls. I use my BB for texting/emailing more than calling

Brian

sjsilverman
07-01-2008, 02:59 PM
Wirelessly posted

So there are 2 problems on my 8320 tmobile 4.5.0.46:

1) No VMI
2) When I dial voicemail, it connects then disconnects. I have to dial my own phone number to get to my voicemail.

Guess I might have to downgrade. VM is something I can't live without!

m4rketsense
07-01-2008, 04:32 PM
I'm running .46 on my 8320 and I experienced the reboot issue for the first time yesterday. It only happened when I made an outbound call -- the phone rang once and then rebooted. I believe each time that it happened was over UMA (so far it has happened 3 times and each time, I believe, I was calling a land line).

I am also having problems with the cell to UMA handoff. The call will typically get disconnected.

jimpilot
07-01-2008, 06:58 PM
So I took the plunge today. It appeared most everyone having issues were on T-Mobile so being on AT&T I tried it.

Before upgrade 8 megs after 16 megs going from 42 to 46. Everything is working well so far.

rafa2044
07-01-2008, 08:35 PM
no browser following the upgrade from .42 to .46! Help! Help!!
It is grey'd out on the app. loader, so i don't understand. It is not "hidden" either.

John Clark
07-01-2008, 08:38 PM
Breathe......

Ok, now go to Options >Advanced Options >Host Routing Table. Hit the meny key and select "Register Now."

rafa2044
07-01-2008, 08:50 PM
Breathe......

Ok, now go to Options >Advanced Options >Host Routing Table. Hit the meny key and select "Register Now."


I had a feeling you would be around. Done that. Now what? Shall I wait or should I do a battery pull or restart?

John Clark
07-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Login to your BIS site and resend service books from there.

rafa2044
07-01-2008, 08:53 PM
Thanks JC. I am taking deep breaths!!

rafa2044
07-01-2008, 09:15 PM
So I sent the service books...
This is what I get when I press alt and the return key and go to the browser icon:
"Your device does not currently have any Browser configuration service book entries. Please contact your service provider to enable the browser in your device."
Is there anything else I should do?

John Clark
07-01-2008, 09:47 PM
For some reason the service books aren't pushing. It's possible that TMo users with unlocked devices won't get service books for this OS....just a thought.

Anyone else with an 8310 on TMobile and this OS have a browser service book?

Garz08
07-01-2008, 11:53 PM
I upgraded from Vodafone .37 to the .46 and it is much smoother. I finally upgraded due to the little browser glitch in .37

stealthx32
07-01-2008, 11:59 PM
What browser glitch? 46 has one too, if you scroll to the bottom, sometimes you get stuck scrolling down, whether you actually scroll up, down, left, or right.

Garz08
07-02-2008, 12:04 AM
What browser glitch? 46 has one too, if you scroll to the bottom, sometimes you get stuck scrolling down, whether you actually scroll up, down, left, or right.

I had that issue with .37 but not with .46

John Clark
07-02-2008, 12:22 AM
I've seen this issue of only being able to scroll down in the browser. It is still present in .48, I've heard.

irockash
07-02-2008, 02:18 AM
I've seen this issue of only being able to scroll down in the browser. It is still present in .48, I've heard.

Saw it in .42... I think if you scroll up really quickly, it'll go back to normal. Haven't seen it .46 yet.

John Clark
07-02-2008, 02:21 AM
I noticed it most on the wap.blackberryforums.com site.

rafa2044
07-02-2008, 08:36 AM
hmmm.... I guess I would be rolling back down to .42? I also have .44. Any suggestions on which one should I load?

WorldIRC
07-02-2008, 08:38 AM
Call your provider. Ask them to do a resend to switch and then have them push the service books to you from the backend.

bzflagace
07-02-2008, 08:42 AM
Well after nuking my unit on the first pass, I tried again and finally got .46 on my unit. Haven't played a lot with it as it was late when i finally got it loaded. This morning, however, I have noticed that I have a folder for IM but when I go inside of it all I have is the "up" icon. How do I now get Yahoo IM back on my unit? Thanks in advance.

rafa2044
07-02-2008, 08:54 AM
Well after nuking my unit on the first pass, I tried again and finally got .46 on my unit. Haven't played a lot with it as it was late when i finally got it loaded. This morning, however, I have noticed that I have a folder for IM but when I go inside of it all I have is the "up" icon. How do I now get Yahoo IM back on my unit? Thanks in advance.

Do a search for google and yahoo and you should be able to download them. Once you do, they will appear in your IM folder.

nfl46
07-02-2008, 10:51 AM
Is it me, or only T-Mobile people are the only ones who have problems with these upgrades? Lol.

strike2tamu
07-02-2008, 12:56 PM
Is it me, or only T-Mobile people are the only ones who have problems with these upgrades? Lol.
Seems to be the trend.

BCollins521
07-02-2008, 01:06 PM
Seems to be the trend.

Guess I'm lucky...I only had one problem when I first loaded it on my device and had to wipe and reload the OS but since then it has been great

Calvin413
07-02-2008, 02:03 PM
Well People, I found the radio signal and the POR's intolerable so I have come back to .44 from .46.

The version may have fixed something, not really sure, but I know there was a reason for it other thanthe Quincy stuff! wink-wink

black betty
07-02-2008, 02:07 PM
I currently D/L .46 and im just gonna sit on it for now, IM running .44 w no issues and based on what is going on here i am not convinced about loading .46

cdoggLBC
07-02-2008, 02:42 PM
Anyone seen 4.5.0.46 around for the 8120???

And no, I'm not asking where to find it.

madj42
07-02-2008, 02:46 PM
Anyone seen 4.5.0.46 around for the 8120???

And no, I'm not asking where to find it.

Good luck finding it. I've been searching for three weeks.

BIOHazard87
07-02-2008, 03:36 PM
What happened to T-Mobile Zen in .46? It seems I have T-Mobile but not the Zen variant.

BIOHazard87
07-02-2008, 03:38 PM
Good luck finding it. I've been searching for three weeks.

Yeah I've only seen 4.5.0.42 for the 8120 :(



EDIT: Sorry for the double post, I thought it would merge posts like it does on most forums

strike2tamu
07-02-2008, 05:56 PM
I will be wiping and re-installing.46 tonight, wish me luck.

strike2tamu
07-02-2008, 06:38 PM
Quick question, should I use JL to wipe or just do it from the device?
EDIT: I just read that it doesnt delete the OS, so I will use JL to get a clean start.

flash24
07-02-2008, 08:18 PM
Ok, I upgraded to .46 and decided to downgrade back to .42 because my BB just randomly turns off on every phone call. Now, I can't receive any emails, I tried resending my Service Book numerous times, and I don't even get the confirmation emails. No luck also on Resending HRT.. I spoke with a Tmobile PDA tech earlier she lied to me by saying RIM is experiencing a problem, I'm calling her a liar because my brother's email is working fine.

What's also weird is, I don't even see the Email Set-Up icon. My BB Messenger also is down. Surprisingly though, Jivetalk is working.

I don't know what exactly is going on, but I have not experience this problem before. Feel free to suggest whatever is on your mind

vinmontRD
07-02-2008, 08:50 PM
Ok, I upgraded to .46 and decided to downgrade back to .42 because my BB just randomly turns off on every phone call. Now, I can't receive any emails, I tried resending my Service Book numerous times, and I don't even get the confirmation emails. No luck also on Resending HRT.. I spoke with a Tmobile PDA tech earlier she lied to me by saying RIM is experiencing a problem, I'm calling her a liar because my brother's email is working fine.

What's also weird is, I don't even see the Email Set-Up icon. My BB Messenger also is down. Surprisingly though, Jivetalk is working.

I don't know what exactly is going on, but I have not experience this problem before. Feel free to suggest whatever is on your mind

Flash -

Out of curiosity -- did you check your APN settings under Options / Advanced / TCP? I've been using an unlocked 8300 on T-Mobile (which works beautifully), but find that when I replace the OS, the APN sometimes reverts to a cingular address, instead of T-mobile. I haven't seen a clear pattern yet, but that's one thing that doesn't seem to carry over consistently from one OS version to the next during an upgrade.

- Jon

strike2tamu
07-02-2008, 08:55 PM
Wirelessly posted (8100 Strike 2)

Well so far so good.

gmandese
07-02-2008, 09:28 PM
I tried to install 4.5.0.46 for my 8320. But, when it erased the apps and data, then loaded everything, it rebooted. After that I got the "507 error, and it said that setup could not continue! No matter what, I cannot get past that point. Fatal Error. Since then, I re-installed 4.2, restored my backup so the phone is working fine. It just won't accept the upgrade! How did you install the .46 to your 8320?
I have done plenty of upgrades, deleted vendor xml, all that, but this just leaves me stymied! Maybe I somehow got a bad OS download? Is that possible?
BTW, using the latest 4.5 DM, Windows Vista home premium.

Soapm
07-02-2008, 09:31 PM
For some reason the service books aren't pushing. It's possible that TMo users with unlocked devices won't get service books for this OS....just a thought.

Anyone else with an 8310 on TMobile and this OS have a browser service book?

I am on .46 with TMO and I have the browser. It wasn't there after the upgrade but it eventually came. I think I did the host routing table thing.

strike2tamu
07-02-2008, 09:35 PM
I have all my icons, some are even doubled, like t-zones for some reason.

John Clark
07-02-2008, 09:55 PM
TZones has been doubling for some time now. Not sure what that's all about.

strike2tamu
07-02-2008, 10:03 PM
Well I hate to mess with a good thing, but I love all the free space I can get...is it safe to delete all the pics, voice dial, etc. that I dont want, or will this cause complications? I currently have 28MB free...pretty sure I can get that close to if not over 40MB with a clean.

John Clark
07-02-2008, 10:08 PM
Have you checked this thread?

http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-blackberry-discussion/112029-optimize-your-bb-setup-max-memory.html

strike2tamu
07-02-2008, 10:34 PM
Wirelessly posted (8100 Strike 2)

I use that every time I clean my phone. Just wondered if it was safe to do with .46.

John Clark
07-02-2008, 10:35 PM
yes.

strike2tamu
07-02-2008, 10:50 PM
Wirelessly posted (8100 Strike 2)

Cool this will give me something to do assuming my phone makes it through the night with no problems.

flash24
07-02-2008, 11:15 PM
Flash -

Out of curiosity -- did you check your APN settings under Options / Advanced / TCP? I've been using an unlocked 8300 on T-Mobile (which works beautifully), but find that when I replace the OS, the APN sometimes reverts to a cingular address, instead of T-mobile. I haven't seen a clear pattern yet, but that's one thing that doesn't seem to carry over consistently from one OS version to the next during an upgrade.

- Jon

LOL yea bro, I tried everything. Luckily, a guy from the tmobile pda tech was able to push the service book by resetting everything, including the server. Now I'm back on track :) Thanks though!

ChesterJT
07-03-2008, 12:20 AM
Does .46 still have the red! on unread/unreplied messages?

John Clark
07-03-2008, 12:21 AM
I think that is gone.

nfl46
07-03-2008, 01:26 AM
I just installed it on my BB. It's quicker than 4.2. Everything is working so far for me.

wassy
07-03-2008, 07:56 AM
don't know if it's me, but I've been upgrading all along, version after version. all of a sudden, .46 seems a bit unstable. I'm getting alot of freezing and hanging. nothing new on my system except BBUnite! which I just uninstalled because I could not get that working via web admin. I deleted the remote controller on the Device, and rebooted. seems also seem a bit slower, almost a pause, when going from say, main screen to 2nd screen (using Precision Zen 1.2).
File free, as of now (12 hours after last wipe and fresh reinstall) : 4412999 Bytes

Also, my battery is draining like there's no tomorrow. unplugged from charger at around 7:45AM today. currently 8:55 AM, so just over an hour, I'm at 90%. by noon, I'll lose a bar or two on charge.. this is definitely not close to what I had previously.

any suggestions?

by the way, option software on device :

Viigo Beta
Yahoo msgr
aim msgr
windows msgr
live search (not working as quickly, lately)
facebook
blackberry tools (quincy and the others)

strike2tamu
07-03-2008, 09:18 AM
Wirelessly posted (8100 Strike 2)

Everything looks good after an all night run.

vinmontRD
07-03-2008, 09:34 AM
LOL yea bro, I tried everything. Luckily, a guy from the tmobile pda tech was able to push the service book by resetting everything, including the server. Now I'm back on track :) Thanks though!

I like the guys in the PDA support group at T-Mo customer care - always had great experience with them. Provided a load of support when I was using an MDA with Windoze Mobile. They really knew the product, knew about hacked ROMs and didn't give me grief, but instead actually helped me get the most of the of the device and OS -- and when I called them, it was generally late at night. Good team there...

Glad you got things going again. I hate to post suggestions that might be obvious to you. Back to my big issue of the moment: wishing/looking for .48 (or better) for my 8300!!! (sigh).

- Jon

nfl46
07-03-2008, 10:10 AM
Everything still working great here with ATT. I've had .46 since last night.

My facebook app isn't working though?

strike2tamu
07-03-2008, 12:15 PM
The camera problem still not fixed, white screen outside...ahh...back to 4.2 for the 6th time, lol glad to know I finally got it working though.

pugenio
07-03-2008, 01:35 PM
I'm having a lot of "HTTP error 400: Bad Request. The server could not understand the page or request, or it was unable to process it for some reason. Please try loading a different page" On details you can see "Connection refused". This happens on plenty of pages, but not all. I have 4.5.0.46 on a 8100.

Anyone else having this problem?

wassy
07-03-2008, 02:59 PM
it seems Viigo/Tango Beta has been really acting up last night and today, ever since fresh install. my batter, at 2:45PM today was at 58%. 2 phone calls for a total of maybe 2 minutes, 2 Viigo updates maybe 3, and not a whole lot of emails.. so I got me a battery problem, eh?

penpower
07-03-2008, 03:08 PM
Everything still working great here with ATT. I've had .46 since last night.

My facebook app isn't working though?

Facebook works great on my 8310 with 4.5.0.46

penpower
07-03-2008, 03:12 PM
The camera problem still not fixed, white screen outside...ahh...back to 4.2 for the 6th time, lol glad to know I finally got it working though.

If you know how to mix cod files from different builds, you could mix 4.5.0.18's camera modular/cod files into .46's folder. It was reported to work well.

cellman08
07-03-2008, 03:41 PM
I have done three beta upgrades and I am now on .44 and I think I am going to stay there until the official release. I have not had a single problem, so I figure, why push it.

Garz08
07-03-2008, 04:09 PM
I have done three beta upgrades and I am now on .44 and I think I am going to stay there until the official release. I have not had a single problem, so I figure, why push it.


I don't blame you! Unless I come across any issues with .46, I will be staying with this until official comes out.

monotremata
07-03-2008, 04:13 PM
.46 working ok after 2-3 days here.. memory leak seems to have slowed a bit..

Im curious what camera issues are you people having??
I just noticed last week on .44 that all of a sudden the quality of my pictures has gone to complete crap. looking at pics I took when I first got the Curve (4.2.2 direct from Cingular) and recently, there seems to be a hell of a lot of added noise to the pictures.
The first few I took I was shocked at how good the quality on the BB was.
Now I look at recent ones I took and it looks like my 10 year old crappy Intel webcam pictures!!

s0dhi
07-03-2008, 08:47 PM
Facebook works great on my 8310 with 4.5.0.46

For me as well, though I wiped the device before the upgrade and then downloaded the facebook app fresh.

wassy
07-03-2008, 09:01 PM
ok, I'm having serious issues here. this is ironic as I've been lucky so far with all other builds. my memory is going to zero daily. this is on a fresh install after wife. will have to try again. I am going to delete from PC first, wipe device, reinstall to pc, and reinstall to device.. something must be corrupt somewhere, because this was workign well before.

wassy
07-03-2008, 09:12 PM
I just realized when I loaded this OS, I also selected all the themes from various vendors, as I had not seen most. that's alot of memory right there, so I am deleting from device.. let's see how that goes before anything else.

UPDATE: deleted those themes, kept precision and the basic BB ones, and reinstalled Viigo Beta. current File Free : 12178432 is this good, bad, ok?

nfl46
07-03-2008, 11:42 PM
Okay,I got my Facebook app to work. I had to reinstall it lol. I don't know why I didnt think to do that at first.

I've been having memory leaks, but a pull of the battery and everything is back to normal.

pinhead
07-04-2008, 10:53 AM
I'm getting a lot of reset issues when using my 8820 on UMA with this version...this is the first OS 4.5 I have tried.

John Clark
07-04-2008, 11:00 AM
Did you try taking out the mem card?

leroydb
07-04-2008, 12:30 PM
Quincy: I figured they could.... what is their reasoning for it? support?

looney28
07-04-2008, 12:41 PM
I just removed .46 after just a short while. I found an annoying envelope icon that stayed no matter what I tried. I would delete messages and it was still there. Tried a battery pull but nothing. The release looked and felt a lot better than 4.2, but I guess I'll just wait for the official TMo release. I also did not get VMI at all when I had a voicemail message waiting.

Garz08
07-04-2008, 12:51 PM
Wirelessly posted

I just realized when I loaded this OS, I also selected all the themes from various vendors, as I had not seen most. that's alot of memory right there, so I am deleting from device.. let's see how that goes before anything else.

UPDATE: deleted those themes, kept precision and the basic BB ones, and reinstalled Viigo Beta. current File Free : 12178432 is this good, bad, ok?

No that's not too good. Check out John Clarks optimizing your memory thread.

nfl46
07-04-2008, 01:32 PM
I just realized when I loaded this OS, I also selected all the themes from various vendors, as I had not seen most. that's alot of memory right there, so I am deleting from device.. let's see how that goes before anything else.

UPDATE: deleted those themes, kept precision and the basic BB ones, and reinstalled Viigo Beta. current File Free : 12178432 is this good, bad, ok?

Bad. I'm suprised your phone hasn't started deleting call logs, text messages, etc.

Soapm
07-04-2008, 03:06 PM
I just removed .46 after just a short while. I found an annoying envelope icon that stayed no matter what I tried. I would delete messages and it was still there. Tried a battery pull but nothing. The release looked and felt a lot better than 4.2, but I guess I'll just wait for the official TMo release. I also did not get VMI at all when I had a voicemail message waiting.

This bug is been posted many times.

hotburnttoast
07-04-2008, 03:47 PM
Well after 3 days of running .46 on my 8320, the memory leak has been greatly reduced, the only problem I have is when on UMA phone call, and goto EDGE it drops the call, then it wont let me redial for at least 2 minutes. Other than that I have been really happy with this release.... THE VM icon is still not fixed, but I got Youmail, so all is good