Bold Delayed

[Wickwire]

BG has posted an article about the Bold and Thunder being delayed once again.

[jrmtl]

Not good ... all these delays is a cause for concern.

[JW021979]

Couldnt find the post on BG site except for this:
"Honestly, haven’t we had enough already? Giz, you don’t want it with the kid, I promise. I never said it was delayed, ever. I said it had major issues as any device four to five months out should! Never, ever, did I mention a delay of any sort. Instead, I actually repeated my previous scoop saying it’s on track for the same time frame we reported before. Please take a minute and re-read yesterday’s post again before complicating things and putting words in our mouths. You’re wrong. And you’re wrong about the name, too. Bigger shot after the jump…"

[Jason Mark]

Couldnt find the post on BG site except for this:
"Honestly, haven’t we had enough already? Giz, you don’t want it with the kid, I promise. I never said it was delayed, ever. I said it had major issues as any device four to five months out should! Never, ever, did I mention a delay of any sort. Instead, I actually repeated my previous scoop saying it’s on track for the same time frame we reported before. Please take a minute and re-read yesterday’s post again before complicating things and putting words in our mouths. You’re wrong. And you’re wrong about the name, too. Bigger shot after the jump…"


look HERE (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/)

[Blackberryer]

The biggest concern I have is the statement that the Thunder has leapfrogged the Bold in terms of priority for RIM.

[pokey]

I posted about this delay the other week. I, again, spoke with Rogers this morning, who advised that the phone will NOT be released July 25 and that the likely date now is the first week in September.

[greggebhardt]

Oh well, now we wait till September. My 8300 with 4.5 is doing good and I want the Bold to be right!

[Cory Scheuer]

like sith has been saying for a long time now, how can a non announced device (by carriers) release date be pushed back?

[mortys11]

cory,

are we still good for rogers next week?

what do you hear?

[Cory Scheuer]

i dont know, i was talking to my contact yesterday and he didnt say anything... he said everything should be finalized on thursday for pricing and such, so i will check back with him tomorrow and see whats going on... but i havent heard anything from rogers on this... last i heard was that they got the last and final build for 4.6 the other week

[Skeets]

If it's pushed into September, I'm all aboard the iPhone train.

[Sith_Apprentice]

seriously why do people get so upset about this? AT&T Bold Information (http://www.blackberrynews.com/2008/07/11/breaking-news-att-starts-blackberry-bold-employee-training/) BGR's Bold date being pushed back is exactly what I stated in my article about AT&T training. Last week of August, first week of September. He is dead on from what i heard about the Thunder, absolutely dead on.

[The BlackBerry Kid]

i wonder how reliable these devices will be since they are being delayed so much

[Sith_Apprentice]

They are not being delayed. There has been NO release information past "Summer" from RIM. If RIM knew when the devices were going to be released, they would have given a more accurate time. Thats like people saying the iPhone was delayed because it was launched on July 11, and not the same day as last year. It means NOTHING until a carrier/RIM points to a calendar and says "We launch then". If after that the date changes, THEN its delayed.

[Battery]

i wonder how reliable these devices will be since they are being delayed so much

Very reliable. That's why production is taking longer then anticipated.

They are not being delayed. There has been NO release information past "Summer" from RIM. If RIM knew when the devices were going to be released, they would have given a more accurate time. Thats like people saying the iPhone was delayed because it was launched on July 11, and not the same day as last year. It means NOTHING until a carrier/RIM points to a calendar and says "We launch then". If after that the date changes, THEN its delayed.

Exactly

[rambo47]

This is nothing more than the "whisper date" being re-guessed. Without a firm date from RIM, which there has not been, this is all guesswork and speculation by largely uninformed hypsters. And this hysteria is what results when people take them seriously.

[greggebhardt]

This is nothing more than the "whisper date" being re-guessed. Without a firm date from RIM, which there has not been, this is all guesswork and speculation by largely uninformed hypsters. And this hysteria is what results when people take them seriously.

This uninformed hypster (BG) is running a website that like ALL sites makes money according to the number of people who log on! I do not care what anyone says the site has hinted about some of these non-existant dates that keep passing and shares some of the blame.

[sagard73]

the only release date ill believe is when i see the actual phone in the store

[pokey]

My contact at Bell was also told yesterday that the Bold for Rogers was delayed til September....bbbooooooooo

[Sith_Apprentice]

My contact at Bell was also told yesterday that the Bold for Rogers was delayed til September....bbbooooooooo

so your contact at a competing company, who has a vested interest in Rogers NOT doing well, stated this?

[pokey]

so your contact at a competing company, who has a vested interest in Rogers NOT doing well, stated this?

Yes, because he is with Rogers himself and was dissapointed at the news. LOL.

[psyct1]

hhmm, i think i'll wait until NEXT year to buy another blackberry... i'm going to Iraq in sept so, can't use the phone out there anyway... might as well just put a "hold" on my account with at&t and just pick back up next year...

i'd really like to have the Bold though :(

[TheBigNewt]

Didn't we pretty much confirm that Rogers would release very soon? I say that because they threw a shindig in Toronto and shmoozed it up with boozy treats and folks and Bolds and the Dancing Girls all over the place and promised that each lucky attendee would receive their comp Bold in 7-10 days. That told me the device was ready for prime time around the 25th of July. Anybody buy that?

[Boy Genius]

This uninformed hypster (BG) is running a website that like ALL sites makes money according to the number of people who log on! I do not care what anyone says the site has hinted about some of these non-existant dates that keep passing and shares some of the blame.

Thank you for the cheap laugh, man. Appreciate it.

And Sith... thank you for being the voice of reason. Those Thunder dates I posted are absolutely spot-on at this point in time. To clarify what I mean by delay, I was talking about missing an internal launch date. Originally the Bold was to be released mid-to-late June on AT&T, something I and even Jibi knew of way back in January. Then that went to mid-July for Rogers, and we're currently at mid-July. So while there is no official delay announced to the public, please believe RIM wants that device out ASAP and would have loved to speed up the process. But as it standed even just a couple weeks ago, carriers would get "final final" builds of the Bold OS from RIM, and after testing would request another build from RIM, and so on. Even with my unit, there are still issues so the software is not 100%. There's another issue, and that's that while RIM could potentially ship the units with the latest software, there are millions watching very closely to see how the Bold performs. This is going to be an indication of how well RIM can release and perfect a device with more than adequate time. They won't ship until it is perfected is my opinion, and they definitely won't drop that bomb on U.S. soil because AT&T doesn't want to deal with crap from it's business customers.

[mlx52]

As much as I am anxiously waiting for the Bold to launch here in the states I will gladly take the delay if it means perfecting the software. My wife's iPhone, which I just upgraded to 2.0 no longer receives mail correctly and the phone has to be rebooted every hour or so, in order to get mail. This seems to be a widespread problem, a quick look on the Apple discussion board shows hundreds of people with the problem, saying Apple is very aware of the problem.

I will gladly be first in line for the Bold when it comes out, with hopefully, close to perfect software.

[greggebhardt]

Thank you for the cheap laugh, man. Appreciate it.

And Sith... thank you for being the voice of reason. Those Thunder dates I posted are absolutely spot-on at this point in time. To clarify what I mean by delay, I was talking about missing an internal launch date. Originally the Bold was to be released mid-to-late June on AT&T, something I and even Jibi knew of way back in January. Then that went to mid-July for Rogers, and we're currently at mid-July. So while there is no official delay announced to the public, please believe RIM wants that device out ASAP and would have loved to speed up the process. But as it standed even just a couple weeks ago, carriers would get "final final" builds of the Bold OS from RIM, and after testing would request another build from RIM, and so on. Even with my unit, there are still issues so the software is not 100%. There's another issue, and that's that while RIM could potentially ship the units with the latest software, there are millions watching very closely to see how the Bold performs. This is going to be an indication of how well RIM can release and perfect a device with more than adequate time. They won't ship until it is perfected is my opinion, and they definitely won't drop that bomb on U.S. soil because AT&T doesn't want to deal with crap from it's business customers.

Not talking about the Thunder, but glad your "prediction" is still "spot on".

I am more concerned with the Bold glad Sith is on your side, I am like the others and listened to what came from your site and choose to believe. I will still read with interest but limit it to that! Not saying it is your fault, but your site professes to have the correct and current info. All the hype has got to be blasting the hit counter thru the roof!

[stranger]

Not talking about the Thunder, but glad your "prediction" is still "spot on".

I am more concerned with the Bold glad Sith is on your side, I am like the others and listened to what came from your site and choose to believe. I will still read with interest but limit it to that! Not saying it is your fault, but your site professes to have the correct and current info. All the hype has got to be blasting the hit counter thru the roof!

you do realize he is not the CEO of RIM. It's is not his fault dates get pushed back or information changes. And when it does change he usually says so. When the Boy Genius says something its not 'official information'. If you took it and believed it as fact you should only blame yourself. nothing is official or true until RIM says so.

BGR isn't a bunch of hypsters, because if you read it like you say you do you would know a lot of what they say comes true.

[whsbuss]

The only thing I remember RIM saying is the Bold would be out this summer (by 9/21?)

[greggebhardt]

you do realize he is not the CEO of RIM. It's is not his fault dates get pushed back or information changes. And when it does change he usually says so. When the Boy Genius says something its not 'official information'. If you took it and believed it as fact you should only blame yourself. nothing is official or true until RIM says so.

BGR isn't a bunch of hypsters, because if you read it like you say you do you would know a lot of what they say comes true.

You need to re READ my post. I am not blaming BG for anything. I am saying that ALL of this is good for hits on one's website. No one forget that what pays for his site and this site is the ability to sell advertising. The rate for advertising is linked to the number of hits on your site.

I am not blaming BG for not delivering the Bold, I am not even blaming RIM. I would rather the device be right that some half baked introduction like the iPhone where they promiss to fix stuff later on in a OS upgrade. I like this site and BG's and I was simply commenting and NOT blaming him not delivering the Bold.

The bold will get her soon enough. I have been around here long enough to have seen MANY new Blackberry introductions and this one is not different than the others.

[greggebhardt]

The only thing I remember RIM saying is the Bold would be out this summer (by 9/21?)

That is likely all that RIM has said.

[The BlackBerry Kid]

this makes me wonder what kind of quality they are gonna be when they come out on the market.

[greggebhardt]

I would say that they will be up to both RIM standards and what We would expect for RIM to deliver to us. I still do not think that RIM will deliver a bad device as they got alot riding on the Bold as it is, with out a doubt, going to be a major release for them.

[detfan]

Well I guess I will wait to use my upgrade then. I have an iphone on my account, and I am going to steal that upgrade when the bold comes out.. :)

[MattM2G]

I am looking forward to the Bold as well, but I agree that we need to make sure that they get it right before it's released. I lived through too many prematurely released Treos that had Battery issues, UI issues, OS issues, that had to be addressed with Upgrades and trade-ins, etc.

I would gladly wait a month or 2 (while gritting my teeth) to have a rock-solid, stable unit, that I am now finding that RIM is known for releasing.

I want my Bold to be not only Bold, but also big, bodacious, brash, brassy, brave, brazen, bright and STABLE!!!

[akim911]

The BOLD IS AMAZING!!!!

[greggebhardt]

I want my Bold to be not only Bold, but also big, bodacious, brash, brassy, brave, brazen, bright and STABLE!!!

Yep, that pretty well summed it up and we all want the same thing!

I do nto think we will be dissapointed. I sure hope they make enough for everyone as I will be expecting three for me and my top staff on the day of release!

[ArgonNJ]

Yep, that pretty well summed it up and we all want the same thing!

I do not think we will be disappointed. I sure hope they make enough for everyone as I will be expecting three for me and my top staff on the day of release!
I'm betting the Bold will still have some issues out of the starting block. I'm staying put awhile before I even think about it.

[Blackberryer]

I'm still not quite sure why a device in development for three years keeps getting pushed back.

[greggebhardt]

I'm betting the Bold will still have some issues out of the starting block. I'm staying put awhile before I even think about it.

Well that's a safe bet. I got issues with my Curve and 8820 but they still are great devices!

Sure it will have issues but it will be closer to what it was promissed to do than most other hardware being introduced these days.

[greggebhardt]

I'm still not quite sure why a device in development for three years keeps getting pushed back.

Conspiracy!