OS: 8310 4.5.0.81 / 4.5.0.55 (MultiLanguage)

[mckinneycm]

Download here: Updateservice (http://members.a1.net/updateservice/bb/)
Scroll down to Blackberry Firmware and find the 8310

Instructions for installing on ANY carrier's 8310:

1. Make sure you have Desktop Manager 4.2 SP2 or higher installed.
BlackBerry - Desktop Software - BlackBerry Desktop Software at BlackBerry.com (https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads/entry.do?code=A8BAA56554F96369AB93E4F3BB068C22)
2. Download the above file to the PC then install it to the PC by running the file you downloaded.
3. Locate the vendor.xml file and delete it. It's located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
4. Plug in BB and Open Desktop Manager. You should be prompted to upgrade.
The process takes about 45 minutes to an hour depending on how much data you have to backup and restore during the process. Once it's done loading the new OS it will reboot (it may do this twice during the entire process.) You will see a white screen with an hourglass for up to 20 minutes at a time while the DM says "waiting for initialization."
If you end up with a white screen with small icons and the number 507, simply connect to DM again and run application loader again and it should load the OS to the device.

To find previous versions of the OS for this device, click http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-8300-series-discussion-curve/140564-latest-os-8310-4-5-0-75-4-5-0-52-multilanguage.html

Note: Preloaded Wallpapers and custom folder icons are not included in this release.

[John Clark]

Great find!

[hammer40]

Oh Boy, here we go...again!

[TXLady]

In the last two weeks, I've upgraded three times already. (.37, .44., .52) So, why should I do it one more time? Does this fix something? At this point, I'm ready to just wait for a couple more versions until Sunday or Monday to upgrade again.

[John Clark]

Nobody asked you to. :-)

[simulator]

Anything new?

[John Clark]

Haven't really seen anything new. However, with these early OS's it's usually best to upgrade to prevent problems you may not yet know about.

[simulator]

My IT guy is getting annoyed at all the BES reactivations he has to do every time I upgrade my OS. Does everyone else have to do this, or is there an easier way?

[DBRASCO]

Guys can someone help me?

I've followed the instructions to the T...... I have not been able to upgrade since upgrading to .44. Desktop manager will not Q-me to update.

Any help would be nice, Thanks in advance

Brasco

[John Clark]

I never bother my IT guy with Activations. Activation can take place automatically if DM has an online connection with the mail server. DM has to be installed for BES support. Then it should ask for your email profile. I usually vpn in and then I get an online connection. After the upgrade I leave it plugged in for a few more minutes and EA starts automatically.

What I usually do is setup DM to prompt me for the email profile. Then, I can hit "cancel" and it will treat it like a BIS upgrade with no connection to the server. I do my upgrade. Then when I'm done restoring and making sure the OS seems stable, I plug it back in, open DM and choose my email profile. Let it sit for a few minutes and EA will start on it's own.

[gadgetfanatic]

if you you don't know about it how can it be a problem??

[devnull]

@<hidden>

Dude, how do you find these? Nevermind. I'm sure its one of those "if I tell ya, I would have to kill ya" kinda things...

Keep up the great finds.

[simulator]

I never bother my IT guy with Activations. Activation can take place automatically if DM has an online connection with the mail server. DM has to be installed for BES support. Then it should ask for your email profile. I usually vpn in and then I get an online connection. After the upgrade I leave it plugged in for a few more minutes and EA starts automatically.

What I usually do is setup DM to prompt me for the email profile. Then, I can hit "cancel" and it will treat it like a BIS upgrade with no connection to the server. I do my upgrade. Then when I'm done restoring and making sure the OS seems stable, I plug it back in, open DM and choose my email profile. Let it sit for a few minutes and EA will start on it's own.

I'll try installing DM with BES support. I had been doing it with BIS support. Is there a faq or a stick on this anywhere?

[CBR900RR]

Any chinese support on this release, please?

[John Clark]

Not from this carrier. MultiLanguage doesn't include CJK. Have to wait until an Asian carrier releases it.

[JLeny]

Anyone see 4.5.0.55 for the 8320

[John Clark]

Not yet.

[JSanders]

Dude, how do you find these? Nevermind. I'm sure its one of those "if I tell ya, I would have to kill ya" kinda things...


There are webcrawlers that search the RIM carriers to determine if new OSs have been posted... One is even posted on BBF somewhere which does just that. You can do if you want. Basically a batch files runs and alerts the user to any new OS uploads.

[John Clark]

That app wouldn't have found this particular version, though. This version isn't on RIM's site. It's on the carrier's own site.

[lostangel]

I never bother my IT guy with Activations. Activation can take place automatically if DM has an online connection with the mail server. DM has to be installed for BES support. Then it should ask for your email profile. I usually vpn in and then I get an online connection. After the upgrade I leave it plugged in for a few more minutes and EA starts automatically.

What I usually do is setup DM to prompt me for the email profile. Then, I can hit "cancel" and it will treat it like a BIS upgrade with no connection to the server. I do my upgrade. Then when I'm done restoring and making sure the OS seems stable, I plug it back in, open DM and choose my email profile. Let it sit for a few minutes and EA will start on it's own.

i already have DM4.5, but how do I know if it's installed for BES support..?

Could you give a detail, step by step guide on this, JC..?

Thanks

Ray

[John Clark]

If there is an option for "Email Settings" then it's probably installed for BES/Redirector support. At the bottom you should see "Connected" (meaning the BB is connected) and "Online" (meaning the DM has an "online" connection with the mail server.

[simulator]

I've been playing for a half hour, and I see no differences from the last version in terms of speed or stability.

[mckinneycm]

There are webcrawlers that search the RIM carriers to determine if new OSs have been posted... One is even posted on BBF somewhere which does just that. You can do if you want. Basically a batch files runs and alerts the user to any new OS uploads.

That's pretty much what I do, except in the manual fashion :)

When I have some down time, I go to BlackBerry FAQ - BlackBerryFAQ (http://www.blackberryfaq.com), click on the Operating Systems link and then just search the carriers looking for a new OS. Pretty boring; however, exciting when you find a new one.

[DBRASCO]

Guys can someone help me?

I've followed the instructions to the T...... I have not been able to upgrade since upgrading to .44. Desktop manager will not Q-me to update.

Any help would be nice, Thanks in advance

Brasco

I have now down graded to 4.2 and tried to upgrade back to 4.5xx and I never get prompted to upgrade now.

Can someone give me some help?

[mckinneycm]

I have now down graded to 4.2 and tried to upgrade back to 4.5xx and I never get prompted to upgrade now.

Can someone give me some help?

Start Application Loader and it should find the newer OS.

[DBRASCO]

Start Application Loader and it should find the newer OS.

I have started Application loader and I get nothing.

It worked to downgrade from 4.5 to 4.2, but it never finds anything to go back up to 4.5 any version.

and thanks for the help.......

[John Clark]

Did you reinstall the 4.5 OS to the PC?

[DBRASCO]

Did you reinstall the 4.5 OS to the PC?

Yes. First I did a repair and that did nothing. So I did a complete uninstall reboot and new install.

Did not help. It's pissing me off. I was able to upgrade from 4.2 to 4.5.44 last week.

I was able to downgrade to 4.2 today, but unable to upgrade back to .44 or any higher.

thanks for the help...

[John Clark]

Did you delete the vendor.xml file again?

[DBRASCO]

Did you delete the vendor.xml file again?

yes then plugged in my 8310 and started DM 4.5

[John Clark]

In Desktop Manager go to Help >About >Device Software Tab. Does it list the 4.5 OS for the 8310?

[DBRASCO]

In Desktop Manager go to Help >About >Device Software Tab. Does it list the 4.5 OS for the 8310?

yes it shows 4.5.0.44

[John Clark]

Why not install the latest? 4.5.0.55 is the latest in the stickys for the 8310.

[DBRASCO]

but the phone shows software 4.2

[ihatechoosinghandles]

I just bought my curve 8310 monday last week and have been dying to try the 4.5 upgrade for the video camera and the documents to go, but I am worried about bricking my phone or not being able to down grade if necessary. Am I just being too conservative and is this a decent build to attempt the maiden upgrade with. Also I am on ATT and am a little fuzzy on how the blackberry's work. They can't be locked like a regular phone can they i.e. this upgrade would lose the ATT software but the standard phone functionality would still work correct?

[wjackson81]

uninstal 4.2 from your pc and try again. Im not sure if this would be safe if something is wrong, but it would be great for troubleshooting your problem. From what I can tell, DM compares the files on your handset to the ones in the java folder. If I am correct in this assumption we would be able to figure out if the problem is you or the software :)

[DBRASCO]

Why not install the latest? 4.5.0.55 is the latest in the stickys for the 8310.

I've tried that... I get no response about new software from DM 4.5. So I thought since i was able to install .44 last week maybe it would work, but no go....

[DBRASCO]

uninstal 4.2 from your pc and try again. Im not sure if this would be safe if something is wrong, but it would be great for troubleshooting your problem. From what I can tell, DM compares the files on your handset to the ones in the java folder. If I am correct in this assumption we would be able to figure out if the problem is you or the software :)

I did this after the downgrade from .44 and now I can't get DM 4.5 to upgrade the phone any version of 4.5

[DBRASCO]

and thanks Guys for the support.

[wjackson81]

D'oh... you were posting helpful info while I was typing that.

What I suggested definately wouldnt help if the DM says 4.5 and the handset is 4.2... I think you should try to reinstal the DM and see if it finds the correct version.

[wjackson81]

Someone on another thread was having a similar issue using DM 4.5. Perhaps try going with DM 4.3?

[DBRASCO]

D'oh... you were posting helpful info while I was typing that.

What I suggested definately wouldnt help if the DM says 4.5 and the handset is 4.2... I think you should try to reinstal the DM and see if it finds the correct version.

I've done several uninstalls of DM 4.5 and reinstalls. nothing gets fixed.......

[John Clark]

You're doing something wrong. Install DM. Install the OS. THEN delete vendor.xml. It WILL find the software as long as you're installing 8310 software.

[CSO]

I never bother my IT guy with Activations. Activation can take place automatically if DM has an online connection with the mail server. DM has to be installed for BES support. Then it should ask for your email profile. I usually vpn in and then I get an online connection. After the upgrade I leave it plugged in for a few more minutes and EA starts automatically.

What I usually do is setup DM to prompt me for the email profile. Then, I can hit "cancel" and it will treat it like a BIS upgrade with no connection to the server. I do my upgrade. Then when I'm done restoring and making sure the OS seems stable, I plug it back in, open DM and choose my email profile. Let it sit for a few minutes and EA will start on it's own.

I agree this is very important, as my IT people are getting frustrated wth me, I think. I would..... But your instructions are unclear to me, a novice. For example what's "vpn"; how do I set DVM to net/bes etc....

[John Clark]

If you don't know how to do this I don't recommend doing it. You can easily screw up your email settings to where you won't be able to send/receive email. Any mistake and the connection between your BB and the BES will be broken. Contact your IT department and I'm sure, if they want you to be able to do this, they will help you install DM to be used in this manner.

[lostangel]

If you don't know how to do this I don't recommend doing it. You can easily screw up your email settings to where you won't be able to send/receive email. Any mistake and the connection between your BB and the BES will be broken. Contact your IT department and I'm sure, if they want you to be able to do this, they will help you install DM to be used in this manner.

JC,

In my DM 4.5, The server shows 'online'...so it means I am connected to the mail server, yes...?

So, if I want to upgrade now, without bothering my BB Administrator for Enterprise Activation, what exactly do I need to do..?

Thanks,

Ray

[CSO]

JC,

In my DM 4.5, The server shows 'online'...so it means I am connected to the mail server, yes...?

So, if I want to upgrade now, without bothering my BB Administrator for Enterprise Activation, what exactly do I need to do..?

Thanks,

Ray

where do I look to learn if it's online etc?

[lostangel]

CSO,

If you're having DM4.5, look at the bottom left corner of the main screen after you've plugged in your device :

Server status : Online


Cheers
Ray

[bigolsparky]

Anybody have issues with this version and Docs To Go?

[sheldonbk]

4.5.0.52 (recent TIM release) seems very stable except for Empower which stopped working when I upgraded from 4.5.0.37. I'm a sucker for upgrading when vendors release new versions of 4.5, but I always lose a half day fine tuning and getting all aps to work. I'm not complaining and know I don't have to step up to .55, but I'm hoping time will give us some observations on changes from .52. Any comments yet or is it too early?

[RadHaz75]

If you don't know how to do this I don't recommend doing it. You can easily screw up your email settings to where you won't be able to send/receive email. Any mistake and the connection between your BB and the BES will be broken. Contact your IT department and I'm sure, if they want you to be able to do this, they will help you install DM to be used in this manner.

not to mention we dont want people installing desktop manager in our company. nearly everything u can do from dm u can do from the handheld and dm is just one more place for something to go wrong. simplify.

[John Clark]

Anybody have issues with this version and Docs To Go?

Haven't heard of any issues. What issues are you having?

[nandosze]

.55 has given me my 3MB back that somehow got lost with the previous two betas. I'm back at 23MB free with a few things installed. I've only noticed one issue so far. On a couple of html emails, I get a prompt saying no message services, message cannot be sent just when viewing the email. I've never seen that before and I've had most 4.5 betas on here. Its not a real issue though and I feel this one is by far the fastest and its very stable like .52

Keep it going RIM

Crimson 8310 ATT

[cryptmagic]

The link was taken down

[ss0R]

The link was taken down

Still there for me:

BlackBerry Firmware
Firmware für BlackBerry 8310 - Version 4.5.0.55
online seit 23-07-2008 - Download (77 MB | exe)

[Fribear]

Says the page is no longer there or has been moved

[JSanders]

It is right there where the link directs:

BlackBerry Firmware

Firmware für BlackBerry 8310 - Version 4.5.0.55
online seit 23-07-2008 - Download (77 MB | exe)

[cookie]

DOnt right click on the link to open in new tab/window. Just left click the link. It'll work then

[billygoat32]

Click the "UpdateService" link then search for 8310, this is where it directs :)

http:/ / members.a1.net/updateservice/bb/

(remove spaces)

If your looking for the firmware update. I can't get the Desktop Manager link to work either, but you can navigate around the blackberry site to d/l it.

Hope that helps :)

[devnull]

Yes, confirmed the DM link at top of thread yields this error on the Blackberry.com website

"The page you have requested has been moved or no longer exists."

[JSanders]

DM link repaired... thanks.

[John Clark]

Fixed Link.

[John Clark]

Pffffttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess we both fixed it!

[devnull]

@<hidden>

Wow!!! you're right. I too was handed back about 3M of device memory after this upgrade.

WooHoo

[John Clark]

If you had any version prior to .52 it had wallpapers and videos (unless you removed them.) .52 and .55 do NOT include those anymore, thus the 3Mb.

[devnull]

If you had any version prior to .52 it had wallpapers and videos (unless you removed them.) .52 and .55 do NOT include those anymore, thus the 3Mb.

Understood John. However, I am comparing the difference between .52 and .55 as reported by options > status before and after upgrade.

.52 - ~24M
.55 - ~27M

[murpheous]

slaps forehead

[[IFC]Area51]

Oh Boy, here we go...again!HAHA, that's exactly what i said.(y)

[matteson83]

I believe I followed the directions thoroughly on multiple attempts, and still receive an error at the onset of installation. The error reads :

"A fatal error has occurred while updating your device's software. Please try again."

I get this same error right at the beginning of the installation while it is connecting to my device. Any insights?

[Dude]

Is A1.NET a legitimate carrier? The reason I ask is that the download is not from a blackberry.net address. I may be a bit paranoid, but I just want to make sure that there are no trojans in the OS.

[murpheous]

it is from a legitmate carrier

[Dude]

Is A1.NET a legitimate carrier? The reason I ask is that the download is not from a blackberry.net address. I may be a bit paranoid, but I just want to make sure that there are no trojans in the OS.

ok, found my own answer. They're a part of Vodafone. The main vodafone.com site links to them when selecting Austria in "Where are you from."

[carsmovies]

I wonder why in the last two releases RIM leaves out the preloaded wallpapers and custom folder colours?

[bigolsparky]

Haven't heard of any issues. What issues are you having?

When I click the Icon, I get an "UP" Folder.

[John Clark]

The icon is just a folder for the Docs To Go apps. If they're not in the folder, maybe theyre somwhere else.

[John Clark]

I think RIM did it on purpose to free up memory. They left the wallpapers in the 8700 versions...

[bigolsparky]

The icon is just a folder for the Docs To Go apps. If they're not in the folder, maybe theyre somwhere else.

HA, they were hidden. I don't remember hiding them.

Thanks

[Garz08]

Upgraded to .55 last night. The only difference I see is I can do a soft reset again where I could not do in .52

[John Clark]

.55 seems to be quite a bit snappier. Good OS.

[CSO]

If you don't know how to do this I don't recommend doing it. You can easily screw up your email settings to where you won't be able to send/receive email. Any mistake and the connection between your BB and the BES will be broken. Contact your IT department and I'm sure, if they want you to be able to do this, they will help you install DM to be used in this manner.

Thanks John for the warning, but I'm game. On the other hand I will not attempt to do anything without more guidance from you or someone who can explain more. I'd appreciate it if you or others would provide more details as to what to do, since I otherwise don't know where to even start.

thanks

[matteson83]

Do I have to install each update leading up to 4.5.0.55 or can i update straight from 4.2 to this?

[John Clark]

Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

Just install this one. No need to install the others. Just follow the instructions in the first post.

[kirson]

Hi folks,

I've noticed that every time I activate the speaker phone the Blackberry does a hard reset within a few seconds. I've tested this a bunch of times - the phone works fine, then I activate the speaker phone and it crashes. Anyone else have this problem?

Thanks,
Ian

[matteson83]

I have multiple times, tried reinstalling DM and redownloading the update. I still get an error once the installation begins. It turns off my signal and then proceeds to connect and automatically spits out "A fatal error has occurred while updating your device's software. Please try again." I'm not sure what else to try. Any suggestions? Just keep trying again?

[Renegade4x4]

Wirelessly posted

Just upgraded everythings great and atleast 2mb more free memory very nice!

[JSanders]

Ian, are you running this specific OS release and this happening?

Have you done a battery pull reboot?

[kirson]

Ian, are you running this specific OS release and this happening?

Have you done a battery pull reboot?

Yes - this OS version (though I noticed crashes during phone calls in the last version too - I just didn't notice the link to the speaker phone, so didn't test it).

I didn't realize a hard reset was different from a battery pull. I jsut pulled the battery, waited 30 seconds, put it back in, and tested again. Same issue. I do have BSmart installed - seems to be running fine. I also have Viigo installed (the beta version). I have a MicroSD card that I formatted with the last version of 4.5.

Is anyone else seeing this behavior?

Thanks,
Ian

[CSO]

Thanks John for the warning, but I'm game. On the other hand I will not attempt to do anything without more guidance from you or someone who can explain more. I'd appreciate it if you or others would provide more details as to what to do, since I otherwise don't know where to even start.

thanks

I just installed this version, and I have no idea how it happened but BES reactivated on its own without may knowingly doing anything.

[John Clark]

I've been told 4.2.2 and higher will activate automatically but I've never experienced it myself. I always start it myself.

[CSO]

I've been told 4.2.2 and higher will activate automatically but I've never experienced it myself. I always start it myself.

It's a relief that it worked with this version as my IT guy must think I'm nuts. The automatic part hadn't worked in the prior upgrades; hopefully they'll continue to do so with subsequent ones.

thanks

[John Clark]

No, 4.5.0.81 is the bundle version. 4.5.0.55 is the app version. If you type alt + e a c e you'll see the bundle version listed.

You are up to date.

[nandosze]

Im still getting that weird message about not having message services configured. I also get it when trying to reply to text or emails but not all the time. Im gonna do a wipe and reinstall. Other than that, this .55 is much quicker and the 3 MB i found have nothing to do with wallpapers, etc. i always remove those

[sheldonbk]

Just realized that Empower works again with this OS. It didn't with 4.5.0.52. Somehow I thought Empower would need an new update to work again. Must have been a bug in prior OS.

[Garz08]

Wirelessly posted

Just testing .55 on wap forums and so far so good.

[Cilraaz]

It'd be nice if a1.net actually responded.

Aaaaaaaand....it's back.

[barbwyr]

When upgrading the OS using a non-vendor release do you lose the programs that the vendor set the phone up with. For example: I am with ATT and have the ATT Navigator. If I use the A1 release, which appears to be the most recent, will I lose that program?

[Stinsonddog]

When upgrading the OS using a non-vendor release do you lose the programs that the vendor set the phone up with. For example: I am with ATT and have the ATT Navigator. If I use the A1 release, which appears to be the most recent, will I lose that program?

Not if you tell DM to restore all apps. It backups even OTA apps. This is by far the best of the releases. It's much more snappy than the prior ones.

[Garz08]

Wirelessly posted

Anybody having volume issues with media player? Volume sucks but its really bad on videos. I may be going back down to .52 tonight.

[JaguarXJ7]

I've been told 4.2.2 and higher will activate automatically but I've never experienced it myself. I always start it myself.

It does for me ........ 2 OS upgrades in about a week and both activated without any input from me at all.

So now I think that'll be #3 ............ maybe this weekend ......... to tired now.

[CSO]

Just realized that Empower works again with this OS. It didn't with 4.5.0.52. Somehow I thought Empower would need an new update to work again. Must have been a bug in prior OS.

still not working fully for me. As I've said before emails with attachments are essentially frozen, can't open the attachment and the menu key doesn't work. And also as I've said, Empower and BBSmart have told me the problems some of us are having is the result of OS4.5 compatability, and that they're coming out with upgrades soon.

Craig

[RadHaz75]

i'm running .52 and i noticed something funny with the media player, sometimes while changing songs it'll pop up a red box saying something to the effect of "unable to play song" (not exactly sure because it goes away fast), and then goes to the next song, but if u go back it'll play the song it just said it couldn't

anyone seen this?

[jgoodluck]

After loading the new OS, will the DM restore my my contacts, emails, and BB messenger contacts?

[ozMP3]

The link's not working for me again - "Operation timed out'

Any mirrors?

Never mind - came up after a few refreshes. Thanks!

[nandosze]

As long as you choose the back/restore function when upgrading your OS, it should all be there when done. I manually backup before just in case 8-)

[CSO]

Wirelessly posted

I've been told 4.2.2 and higher will activate automatically but I've never experienced it myself. I always start it myself.

Could the fact thatI upgraded the OS on my desktop at work where the server is directly connected explain the automatic reactivation whereas my prior upgrades were done at home on my personal computer?

[sheldonbk]

Barbwyr, I have the Rogers version of Telenav. After each OS upgrade, I have to setup Telenav again. It's easy and fast. The program is still there, but the first time I load it, it asks for language, etc. Then I have to go to Preferences - Connection and ensure that those settings match my carrier's.

[jgoodluck]

I upgraded to the latest OS. On the reboot the phone froze on Verifying Security Software. Pulled the battery twice now and same result. Any ideas?

[sleepysostoney]

I have a 8310...I have 2 issues I have had with all build's since upgrading to os 4.5 and those are that if I attempt to record video at about 1 minute the phone crashes and reboots. The second I have heard of and was curious if there was any fix, that beeing my blackberry messenger prompts to update all users or they will be erased. This happens after each battery pull.(n)

[jgoodluck]

Reconnected to DM...probledm fixed!

[netzaper]

third upgrade in 2 weeks of ownership!

[expalmguy]

When upgrading with these latest versions, is it necessary to wipe the phone before installing? Would there be any benefit to wiping the phone clean before installing the new OS?

Thanks.

[sheldonbk]

When upgrading with these latest versions, is it necessary to wipe the phone before installing? Would there be any benefit to wiping the phone clean before installing the new OS?

Thanks.

It seems that Desktop Manager does that during the instalation process. That's one reason why it's a good idea to back everything up first.

[varinius]

4.5.0.55 Rel. 81 in combination with Desktop Manager 4.6 works perfect... faster, more free memory as before. One reason for the extended free memory is, that the preinstalled wallpapers of the OS are not longer available :-)

[Garz08]

I went back to .52 after having low volume issues on media player :(

[barbwyr]

I went back to .52 after having low volume issues on media player :(

So .52 works well for you?? I was looking at .55 but your volume complaint concerned me as I like my phone to be loud so I can hear it.

[Garz08]

So .52 works well for you?? I was looking at .55 but your volume complaint concerned me as I like my phone to be loud so I can hear it.


.52 does work well for me. It was great except for the low volume with media player. That was my only problem but its a big problem for me since I am always listening to mp3's and watching videos that I upload. My excitement lasted for only a few hours.

The only downfall for me on .52 was I had to reformat my media card on the first time I installed the OS as I kept getting a error while my BB was trying to read the info but I backed up my media card on my PC and then reformated the card and than transferred back my info and then it was solid.

[RoninChaos]

okay, I'm a newb to this stuff. i'm looking for the update that has the new L theme that the pearl on AT&T has and that will allow the phone do record videos. Is this that update? I'm sorry if this sounds terribly stupid, again, I'm new to this and I was curious what version of the 8310 software I needed to pick up in order to enable those two things.

Thank you very much for your time and I appreciate the hell out of this website.

[barbwyr]

Any of the 4.5 releases has video for the 8310. This thread covers the latest release 4.5.0.55 but I have seen note that there is a low volume issue that has pushed some users to downgrad to 4.5.0.52 which appears to be the same but without the volume issue. Read this whole thread and the one for the previous release and you will find any answers you need regarding upgrade to 4.5.

[joginder]

download link is not working.

[John Clark]

The site doesn't seem to be able to handle all the traffic it's getting. You might have to try again later.

[Donbp]

I went back to .52 after having low volume issues on media player :(

You might check what equalizer setting you have set. I have mine set to loud and haven't noticed any difference at all between 52 and 55.

[saymen]

hi,

is there nowhere a .55 version for my 8120 multilingual since i am looking for it mainly because my empower is not working.
bought it before i updated from 37 to 52 and used it for only 2 days. its not working with the 52.

[Drfreeman82]

I downgraded back to 4.2. I will just wait for the bold and its os.

[kenv]

I have the 4.5.0.52 and it is working well. I was able to DL the 4.5.0.55 last night and wondered if anyone had compared the 52 vs the 55 and whether it is worth the trouble to upgrade from the 52.

BTW, I am using BB Maps from an old 4.2 OS since AT&T apparently sends down an empty service book for the 4.5 BB Maps if they haven't been successful in preventing you from loading BB maps in the first place. The 4.2 BB Maps seem to get a working service book from BB. I've seen other posts about this, but wonder whether AT&T is going to relax its policy about BB Maps once the 4.5 is on their DL site. (I suspect not, since they want to sell their TeleNav program.)

[ams mike]

I have the 4.5.0.52 and it is working well. I was able to DL the 4.5.0.55 last night and wondered if anyone had compared the 52 vs the 55 and whether it is worth the trouble to upgrade from the 52.

BTW, I am using BB Maps from an old 4.2 OS since AT&T apparently sends down an empty service book for the 4.5 BB Maps if they haven't been successful in preventing you from loading BB maps in the first place. The 4.2 BB Maps seem to get a working service book from BB. I've seen other posts about this, but wonder whether AT&T is going to relax its policy about BB Maps once the 4.5 is on their DL site. (I suspect not, since they want to sell their TeleNav program.)

I have BBMaps and Google maps working perfectly on my 4.5os.

look here....

http://www.blackberryforums.com/beta-you-than-me/130852-get-blackberry-maps-google-maps-working-beta-os-4-5-a.html

[joginder]

finally worked and was able to load it and will commission the new 8310 from 8820.
thanks

[RoninChaos]

I've upgraded two blackberries to this firmware, and it crashes both of them. I'll be in the middle of a phone call and it will cut off, the red light will show in the top corner, and it reboots. Has this happened to anybody else? I want the functionality of these updates, but I can't brick any more phones. What should I do?

They're 8310's, with AT&T, btw.

[John Clark]

This has been discussed multiple times in this thread and in others. it's most likely a media card issue. Try removing the media card and see if the problem still occurs. If it goes away, you'll want to backup the data on the card, reformat the card and move files back slowly until you find what is causing the reboots.

[RoninChaos]

Oh, okay. I'm sorry, I didn't see it. I'll try that. has any one encountered it not being the media card? Forgive me, I'm new to this, and I don't want to mess up any more phones. I know you guys do this like it's second nature, but it's new to me. I didn't know if people had encountered this stuff before.

Thank you.

[John Clark]

It's simple to just pull the card and run the phone a while and see what happens. Occassionally other things can cause it, though. Loose battery connections, etc.

[carsmovies]

I just tried playing a youtube video and got an error message "Content not available. Server is blocked or unresponsive". I could have sworn that I was able to play youtube videos the other day. Anyone else have this problem?

[RoninChaos]

It's simple to just pull the card and run the phone a while and see what happens. Occassionally other things can cause it, though. Loose battery connections, etc.

John, I'm sorry, but I have one more question. I tried what you suggested, and without the media card in the phone I had no issues. I formatted it, put it back in the blackberry and immediately started having the rebooting issue. Obviously it's the card. I reformated it but I'm running into the same issue.

My question is, what cards won't this happen with? Is it a size issue? I'm currently using a 4 gig sandisk card I got from work, it is one of those microSDHC types, the high capacity ones. I also have a two gig, and don't use it for anything but storing ring tones and pictures. Is it possible this update has an issue with the SDHC cards and a normal capacity one could fix this issue?

Thank you very much for your time. Sorry to be a bother.

[John Clark]

Are you formatting it with the BB? Make sure you format it from within the BB by going to Options >Media Card >Menu key >Format Card. Are you loading any data back to it?

[RoninChaos]

I formatted it from a card reader. I'll do it from the blackberry if it doesn't boot loop. I would like to reload some stuff on to it, but it's mainly just pictures I have of my family and random back grounds and ring tones. I don't really do music.

[spega]

If there is an option for "Email Settings" then it's probably installed for BES/Redirector support. At the bottom you should see "Connected" (meaning the BB is connected) and "Online" (meaning the DM has an "online" connection with the mail server.

John, my IT guy is also getting fed up with me. Currently my "email settings" are shaded out and "unconnected" at the bottom. How would I turn it on? thanks for all your help.

[Josh615]

Is there a memory leak on .55 like there was with .52? Did anybody notice it on .52? I can pull the battery for 30 seconds and once replace it go from 23-24 mb's free to about 16-17 within an hour or two of using it.

[John Clark]

That's normal as you use apps on the device. Additionally, "memory leaks" are usually due to 3rd party apps.

[fonejunkie]

I am loading this OS as I type this... but I noticed my 8310 now says APP ERROR 523 RESET. Is this normal and will it recover? The app loader in the desktop manager's progress bar continues to move... advice, please?

[drjpreston]

Just upgraded to 4.5.0.55. Followed directions here. Went flawlessly. Seems to be working great. Volume on ringer may be a little lower however it may be my imagination. Thaks for the clear instructions and help.

[AirForceOne]

Trying to upgrade my 8310 curve now, will let you know how it goes!

[Josh615]

That's normal as you use apps on the device. Additionally, "memory leaks" are usually due to 3rd party apps.

It just didn't seem to be as quick on the 4.2 I was using before upgrading. I understand it takes up memory to use it, but it seems to be at 14 very quickly. And most of the usage is reading emails and using the bb browser. I don't use 3rd party apps all that often.

[John Clark]

It does seem like it's faster. However, remember that there are a lot more features, including html, etc.

[fonejunkie]

I am loading this OS as I type this... but I noticed my 8310 now says APP ERROR 523 RESET. Is this normal and will it recover? The app loader in the desktop manager's progress bar continues to move... advice, please?

FWIW, it did NOT recover - I had to run JL_Cmdr to wipe the Curve and reload from scratch - which is once again in progress. Hopefully it won't repeat.

[John Clark]

Usually a 523 error can be recovered. Simply run app loader again and see if you can remove the 3rd party application causing the issue. JL_Cmder works too, though. :-)

[fonejunkie]

How do I identify the offending application?

[John Clark]

I usually remove 3rd party apps one at a time. I'll start with the more obscure, low-budget apps first. Google Maps isn't usually my first app to remove. Themes, smaller not as well programmed apps are usually the offenders.

[AirForceOne]

before i do go ahead with it as im very new to the black berry scene, is this a universal os? or branded one? I dont want to brand it with anything..


Thanks in advance

[John Clark]

All OS's are universal. The OS will load according to the brand of BB it's loading to. The only "branding" is the vendor.xml file that you will be deleting. Once that's deleted, it's no longer "branded."

[drjpreston]

It does seem like it's faster. However, remember that there are a lot more features, including html, etc.

After upgrading do we need to turn on or do anything to use html?

[John Clark]

You can only receive html emails. You can't create them.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-blackberry-discussion/137798-how-enable-html-email-your-blackberry.html

[fonejunkie]

I need some help. I tried to upgrade to the 4.5.xxx.81 OS, and didn't like it. The Address Book spacing was wonky, the Blackberry was very sluggish, and I wanted to return to the 4.2.2.194 version. I tried to install the old OS over the 4.5 version, but it would not let me install it (perhaps is was just my unfamiliarity with the location of the settings and options in DTM 4.6)... so I uninstalled everything and reinstalled the DTM 4.2 sp2 and the 4.2.2.194 OS on my PC.

When I tried to reload the OS, it would not go - saying there was NO OS installed on my PC... so I used JL_CMDR to wipe my 8310 and uninstalled and reinstalled the 4.2.2.194 OS.

I then tried to load the OS again, and everything seemed to go ok, but a weird thing was that it prompted me to OVERWRITE/REMOVE the 4.5xxx OS from the WIPED 8310 (?). I said 'ok' and it started to load, but stopped with an error:
Device communications error encountered. [A:0x00000022]

No clue what that error is, what caused it, or what to do about it...

Can someone please help me get my 8310 going again?

[ex-28]

this version is all working great for me , however when i play songs in mediaplayer , i have the volume up all the way when it goes to the next song or i skip songs , it lowers the volume slider bar slightlly , i also have the volume boost on , is this a knownn issue on this os version ?

[JSanders]

fonejunkie, the normal downgrade process involved first uninstalling the newer OS from your PC.
How do I downgrade the OS on my BlackBerry? - BlackBerryFAQ (http://www.blackberryfaq.com/index.php/How_do_I_downgrade_the_OS_on_my_BlackBerry%3F)

I'm not familiar with that error either. I would first suggest that you simply do as suggested in the downgrade thread and attempt again. If it doesn't work, head back to Jl_cmder to wipe it. It does work well.

I've been running various releases of 4.5 for some time now. I would suggest you try it again, in conjunction with John Clark's memory optimization thread, and give it some time. You will learn to live with the the address book's new double spacing (which is there for the Company name field to appear) and find new features you like.

[fonejunkie]

What a major PITA... but I think I am on the way back now. I had to uninstall the OS and the DTM software, manually clean the registry of all RIM entries, run JL_CMDR again to once again wipe the 8310... then did the battery pull, rebooted the PC... reloaded the DTM (v4.5) and the OS (4.2.2.194) and then do the 'cleanup' on the OS stuff - remove the vendor.alx file, and kill all of the apps that I wanted to remove (per JClark's memory optimization thread).

One result of Googling the error message said to disable the power management feature of the USB hubs in the PC's device manager, which I did, and required another reboot...

It now appears to be installing the older OS again... and if so, I will then need to restore all of my data and third party apps...

I have 'hacked' and 'tweaked' OSes for Motorolas and Blackberries for the past 5 or 6 years and never had an experience like this one... I now have two new mantras that I will repeat until the urge to upgrade passes:

1. If it ain't broke, don't fix it (only upgrade for a specific feature or to fix a specific problem).

2. There's no place like home... there's no place like home... there's no place like home.

[JSanders]

2. There's no place like home... there's no place like home... there's no place like home.

hahahaha, good. So true.

I have to disagree on the upgrade for the heck of it. For most, it is a simple seamless process. However, it can be daunting for the uninitiated, and even for the initiated like yourself, a rare glitch can throw the process into a stew.

[fonejunkie]

I am wondering it the root of the problem was the Surreal theme? I remember reading that it would not work with 4.5xxx, but apparently there are different levels of "would not work with". :)

I am reinstalling a couple of apps and then I will be good to go. And no more modding/upgrading for at least 24 hours... or at least 12 hours... maybe 2 or 3 hours, for sure :oops:

One final question. I created a backup using the Switch Devices method... can I selectively restore parts of that backup? Specifically, I want to pull a theme back that I cannot find online anymore.

[JSanders]

Yes, you can open that "yourpin.alx" file and restore only that theme in the check/uncheck boxes.

[Drfreeman82]

Ok I swallowed my pride and decided to download this os. I did a clean wipe and install. I enjoy this os and I have not had any problems. In fact, I dont have the little boxes anymore in the sms messages. This is the best by far I have seen. Oh yeah and I got blackberry maps on my 8310. lol

[sheldonbk]

I am wondering it the root of the problem was the Surreal theme? I remember reading that it would not work with 4.5xxx, but apparently there are different levels of "would not work with". :)

Surreal caused serious problems for many people w/OS 4.5. See also http://www.blackberryforums.com/media-center/135429-fix-surreal-theme-reset-error-523-os-4-5-installed.html

[CSO]

I installed the OS from my work computer (DM4.5). Now when I try to update apps on my home computer (DM4.5), the program wants to downgrade a number of my apps etc.

Is there a way to stop this from happening?

thanks

[John Clark]

What apps? If you have desktop install versions of apps added to application loader it will "downgrade" them if they are an older version than what is installed. if you used a 3rd party app backup to restore apps then that could also cause it. You need to remove/move the .alx files that are loading with application loader.

[Chevyguy]

I just installed OS 4.5.0.44 two weeks ago... is there any significant differences between .44 and .55 ? I am very happy with .44, so if no changes, I will stay for now. :?

[John Clark]

.55 is much zippier and overall seems better. I'd upgrade.

[Chevyguy]

.55 is much zippier and overall seems better. I'd upgrade.
Ok thanks. I'll give it a shot.

[CSO]

What apps? If you have desktop install versions of apps added to application loader it will "downgrade" them if they are an older version than what is installed. if you used a 3rd party app backup to restore apps then that could also cause it. You need to remove/move the .alx files that are loading with application loader.

thanks John.

[ucantcme89]

Just upgraded to .52 and now to .55....What's new??

[John Clark]

Minor bug fixes in .55. .55 is much quicker and seems to be smoother all-around.

You're not going to see new features in these small incremental upgrades. Usually bug fixes and things that may be transparent. They may have improved battery life with minor tweaks or improved media card reading, etc. When the OS is still this new, I recommend upgrading.

[barbwyr]

John,
Have you noticed the volume drop and is it significant enough to warrent only going with .52

[endure161]

My company has the BES set up to do OTA syncing of email and calendar. I had a problem with the DM software changing the service books so all of the OTA syncing was stopped. We got the RIM support guy on the phone to get it fixed. He had me reinstall DM with BIS support - NOT BES support - so that it would not mess with the service books. The downside, I guess, is that I cannot do what John suggests. Every time I reload the OS I have to send a note to my IT guy to get him to set up a new OTA BES activation.

[Alfarobb]

Upgrade went fine, but phone will not let me change fowarding numbers in phone or change to foward all calls ?

[mobile_mirror]

I finally was able to dl'd this file at work. I was trying for hrs yest, the site just didn't want to come up for me.

Will upgrade tonight and report back.


^_^_^

[John Clark]

John,
Have you noticed the volume drop and is it significant enough to warrent only going with .52

Yes, I've noticed volume drop but, for me, it's not enough to prevent me from upgrading.

[carsmovies]

Yes, I've noticed volume drop but, for me, it's not enough to prevent me from upgrading.

I didn't notice any volume drop.

[rawb]

I upgraded my 8310 to 4.5.0.55 (with Desktop Manager 4.5.0_b016) and noticed that everytime I connect my BlackBerry, I get an upgrade prompt about three applications.

When I click 'Update Now', however, it tells me that nothing needs to be upgraded. Did I do something wrong? Does anyone know how to fix this?

I've attached the relevant screenshots below.

[Petdude]

I didn't notice any volume drop.

Nor did I. I did notice that the volume drops back to the default levels when the upgrade is complete, but once I cranked them back up to where they had been previously, I can again blast out my eardrums. ;-)

Of course, I had to re-adjust the volume for phone calls, PTT and media seperately as all were set back to defaults.

[kenv]

Couple of questions--informational, not argumentative:

1. When you say that 55 is faster than 52, what exactly is faster? The browser? Everything else seems almost instantaneous with the BB including my 3rd party programs, the camera, etc.

2. Is the BB Maps-ATT problem solved, or do you still have to either install the old 4.2 BB Maps by copying them over to the Java folder, or else install the BB maps separately from the RIM site in order to have the 4.5 maps work with ATT?

3. I always delete the vendor.xml file first, of course, with each new update. But do you still have to go through the process of manually getting rid of the ATT ID in the maps alx (I think that's where it was, but there was something blocking maps with ATT) and also do you still have to get rid of the various vendor IDs in the blackberry.alx file, along with the themes and wallpapers, and delete some of the stuff in the Java folder, as outlined in John Clark's previous instructions on updating a BB OS? Or has all this been taken care of automatically by now?

Thanks very much.

[bennyk]

Hi, could anyone advise me please?

My BB is supplied via my company IT dept and I want to update to latest 4.5. Will I have to get my IT dept involved or will it just update and re-apply policies etc and they never need know !!!8-)

Thanks

[JSanders]

They will know if you update.

[bennyk]

They will know if you update.

Ok, Thanks for the tip.

Can I still update without their intervention though..?

[JSanders]

If your device activation does not require a new password to be sent, yes. But I don't know the answer to that question for your BES. They might require a new PW, which would involve the Admin.

[Casebrius]

searched but no matches..... My Memo pad disappeared when I upgraded software. Can I get my old memo pad back from my backup (is it backwards compatible?)

[neftv]

Over the weekend I went from .52 .to .55 and I am now seeing more problems on my 8310. The bluetooth does not connect on first try and when it does connect it only last for like a couple minute then on the phone it say it terminated bluetooth connection. I didn't have that happening in .52. Also, Blackberry media player keeps getting some exception error on when I try to stream audio from the internet. That didn't happen in .52 too.
Any way to fix this or is anyone else seeing what I am seeing?

[shona67]

.55 is much zippier and overall seems better. I'd upgrade.

John,

I plan to download upgraded OS 4.5 on my wife's AT & T 8310 tonight. I need to double check with you. Do I need to load up missing preload wallpapers? Here is the link you post for 8320. I don't know if it would also apply to 8310?

Here's a simple alx/cod install for the wallpapers/folder icons.
http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-blackberry-discussion/140828-missing-preloaded-wallpapers-latest-4-5-0-xx-release-get-them-here.html

[rain125]

I have problem with upgrade from .52 to .55. DM just don't see applications for upgrade. Tried to install ,uninstall -nothing helps.

[neftv]

Thanks back for backups. I'm just going to roll back to .52 that I had on Saturday since .55 has issues with my phone.

[John Clark]

When you install a new OS the vendor.xml is reinstalled. Make sure it's deleted. Don't rename it, delete it.

[neftv]

When you install a new OS the vendor.xml is reinstalled. Make sure it's deleted. Don't rename it, delete it.

John I don't know if that message it to me but I always delete the vendor file.

[shona67]

When you install a new OS the vendor.xml is reinstalled. Make sure it's deleted. Don't rename it, delete it.

Do I need to load up missing preload wallpapers?

[rain125]

When you install a new OS the vendor.xml is reinstalled. Make sure it's deleted. Don't rename it, delete it.

yes , I deleted vendor.xml .I'm upgading since .18 and everything been smooth until .55

[John Clark]

What version of DM?

[rain125]

4.5.0.15

[kirson]

Are you formatting it with the BB? Make sure you format it from within the BB by going to Options >Media Card >Menu key >Format Card. Are you loading any data back to it?

I'm having a similar issue - though it's only the phone application that is causing the BB to reset. When I take out the media card, all is well. When I put it back in, the rests start again. I've reformatted a number of times with the BB, but no change. I'm using a 2GB Sandisk card. Is there a known solution to this issue?

Regards,
Ian

[JordanA]

Hi all,

I just updated to this version - and so far so good. ONE issue I am having is that it appears my messages screen is no longer theme control - worse off it appears to be 'stuck' in some random blue colored theme (that doesn't even show wireless signal strength!) Has anyone else ran in to this problem? Any fixes?

FYI - I installed this version on an AT&T branded 8310 (if that matters.)

Thanks'all!

~J

[JordanA]

I upgraded my 8310 to 4.5.0.55 (with Desktop Manager 4.5.0_b016) and noticed that everytime I connect my BlackBerry, I get an upgrade prompt about three applications.

When I click 'Update Now', however, it tells me that nothing needs to be upgraded. Did I do something wrong? Does anyone know how to fix this?

I've attached the relevant screenshots below.

If its any consolation - I have the same problem... have not figured out how to fix it yet.

[JSanders]

Jordan, cancelling that update works, doesn't? I was having the same update notice with my 8310

[JordanA]

Jordan, cancelling that update works, doesn't? I was having the same update notice with my 8310

Yup - hitting cancel works... But this error, combined with what I noted above in post #193 makes me wonder if my update wasn't applied completely.

[JSanders]

Yep.

Can you change themes?

[JordanA]

Yep.

Can you change themes?

Yup - I can change themes, and everything "themeish" chances except the messages screens (Desktop, BIS, and MMS/SMS). The only thing that changes when I select a new theme is the color of the selector/highlight bar (when scrolling through messages.)

[JSanders]

Is this the separator bars in Messages > Menu > Options > General Options > Separators?

[JordanA]

Is this the separator bars in Messages > Menu > Options > General Options > Separators?

Nope - infact, I just tried changing that option to all three options and I don't see a difference any any messages, or the layout/format of the menu.

On your message screen - what is in the upper left corner? Mine is blank with the bluetooth symbol about 1/4th the way over from the left. Typically this should change with each theme.

[328iGuy]

IS there anywhere else to grab this update, have been trying for hours in this site is just over loaded and not even loading?

Thanks

[freddymcfredfred]

IS there anywhere else to grab this update, have been trying for hours in this site is just over loaded and not even loading?

Thanks
Here's another link (click) (http://rapidshare.com/files/133113816/8310M_PBr4_1_.5.0_rel81_PL2.7.0.68_A4.5.0.55.exe)

[heartspeace]

In the last two weeks, I've upgraded three times already. (.37, .44., .52) So, why should I do it one more time? Does this fix something? At this point, I'm ready to just wait for a couple more versions until Sunday or Monday to upgrade again.


Because believe it or not, this has helped tremendously with memory leaks...

at least for me.

Michael

[JaguarXJ7]

Well there outta be another update in the next couple of days ............ seems like just a couple of days after I load a new OS, they release another one ................ and you guessed it ............ I am loading this one now. See ya in a couple of days. :)

Thanks to all for bringing this and all the other updates to our attention. Much appreciated.

[tallboyonafatboy]

downloaded the 4.5 today, pretty easy task. found a few improvements, maybe need to explore more. the video camera will be nice when I get a media card. one thing I did notice is when I updated my email addresses a old one has stayed on my BB but it's deleted in email set up. anypone know how I can get rid of it?

[TXLady]

In the last two weeks, I've upgraded three times already. (.37, .44., .52) So, why should I do it one more time? Does this fix something? At this point, I'm ready to just wait for a couple more versions until Sunday or Monday to upgrade again.
Because believe it or not, this has helped tremendously with memory leaks...

at least for me.

Michael

Oh heck, I admit, I gave in and upgraded yesterday anyway. So, be prepared, I expect a new release tomorrow or Wednesday as a result. LOL.

[fonejunkie]

I'm back... after JSanders' encouragement, and a fully recovered 8310 w/ 4.2.2.194 OS installed, I removed the offending surreal theme and upgraded once again to this version.

This time, the experience was problem free - the experience that I had come to expect when upgrading 'berry OS... The software seems stable, and does not exhibit the sluggishness that I saw with the last attempt at upgrading.

I have a couple of observations:


CrackMem 2.4 did NOT work/help with this OS install. I actually loaded the OS twice - once with CrackMem 2.4 and the second time to 'fix' the install/remove the apps that I tried to exclude from the first install.

The new voice-activated search in Google Maps 2.2.1 does NOT work wiht this version of the OS on my 8310

The GPS does NOT seem to register as quickly as the 4.2.2 version.

The video camera is nice, but I need to get a larger microSD card - 2GB is not large enough for pictures, ringtones, a few files and video. Plus, I can't see using it in lieu of a 'real' video camera - but it is nice to have for that unanticipated grandchild moment.


Now I am off to find a workable theme and play with HTML email.

[JSanders]

All good news... I find the GPS ok on this release, not as slow as on an earlier release.

I wonder if you might have deleted the VAD files in your OS load, does that affect the Google Maps voice activation? I know my VAD is deleted, but voice command still does work with WLiveSearch. Just FYI.

[JSanders]

old one has stayed on my BB but it's deleted in email set up. anypone know how I can get rid of it?

Options > Advanced > Service Books. Find that email@<hidden> and delete the service book. If it returns, then that means it is not removed from your BIS account where it was setup, and you will need to delete the account there.

[fonejunkie]

All good news... I find the GPS ok on this release, not as slow as on an earlier release.

I wonder if you might have deleted the VAD files in your OS load, does that affect the Google Maps voice activation? I know my VAD is deleted, but voice command still does work with WLiveSearch. Just FYI.

I did intentionally delete VAD. I had done so on the 4.2.2.194 OS and that did NOT affect the GoogleMaps voice search. The WLS voice search, does work pretty well, but either I have changed the way I speak with the OS upgrade or something is causing the WLS voice function to be less accurate...

Either way, the voice search are nice, but it's something that I can live without, I suppose, since the GoogleMaps voice search is not even supposed to be available for the 8310 with any OS.


You KNEW that I'd be back to doing the OS upgrade, right? :)

[Casebrius]

searched but no matches..... My Memo pad disappeared when I upgraded software. Can I get my old memo pad back from my backup (is it backwards compatible?)

Anyone?

[stevielive]

I'm running the most current OS and thanks for the insight within this valuable BB community. My Curve went to hell and back last night...back in BB bliss today! App errors 561, 507, etc showed up on the screen. If not for the 3rd party app back ups, OS back ups, et al., I don't know what I would have done.

For some reason I didn't panic nor become frustrated. The BB restored flawlessly after wiping the device w/Jl-Cmdr. I have all of the 3rd party app keys saved on a separate folders, so that wasn't an issue!

Sometimes ya gotta look in, and mostly importantly...listen! I figured on a major crash happening and had the proper insurance!

Thanks all! Still, by far, the very best phone device I've owned! Life does begin again!8-)

[JSanders]

Anyone?

unless you UNchecked the Memopad to load in the OS, it is not likely deleted. Go to Options > Status > Menu > Database Sizes and scroll down to Memos. Is it there, what size is it?

[fonejunkie]

unless you UNchecked the Memopad to load in the OS, it is not likely deleted. Go to Options > Status > Menu > Database Sizes and scroll down to Memos. Is it there, what size is it?

Actually, when I upgraded, it WAS unchecked - I didn't do it, and didn't see it until after the upgrade was done. I simply re-ran the app loaded with the MemoPad checked to add and voila! Everything was back to normal. I have no idea how it got unchecked, but it was, initially

[shona67]

Last night, I downloaded upgraded OS 4.5 on my wife and did not go thru. I received an error, APP Error 523.

[DSSKing]

Has anyone upgraded from 4.2.2 on Rogers to this new firmware?

I'm using a locked 8310 on Rogers...... Will find unlocking software soon (Hopefully here).

Thanks

[yorrick]

Originally Posted by Casebrius
searched but no matches..... My Memo pad disappeared when I upgraded software. Can I get my old memo pad back from my backup (is it backwards compatible?)

Anyone?

Did you go into the Desktop and check that this was installed on your BB?
You can now add/remove memopad, task, brickbreaker as part of the desktop installation of files/apps.

I sync my memopad to my Outlook, so it was restored when I upgraded.
Good luck on restoring your memopad...(y)

[yorrick]

The video camera is nice, but I need to get a larger microSD card - 2GB is not large enough for pictures, ringtones, a few files and video. Plus, I can't see using it in lieu of a 'real' video camera - but it is nice to have for that unanticipated grandchild moment.



OS4.2.2 supports up to 4GB microSD cards on the 8310.
OS4.5 supports up to and above 8GB microSD cards

What type and size Media Card can I use in my device? - BlackBerryFAQ (http://www.blackberryfaq.com/index.php/What_type_and_size_Media_Card_can_I_use_in_my_device%3F)

[rich007007]

Amazing, simply amazing. Thanks to the instructions that was so simple and very painless. I was a little nervous about half way through the whole thing because it appeared as if was stuck on "Connecting to Device". I was about to post a question on how long doesit take to connect to device and right before I clicked submit the curve rebooted and was back on its way.

Love the addition of video recording and voice notes. Just one small question on those. When I email it to myself and try to view the attachments sometimes I get a this format is not supported on your device message. Which is odd because it was recorded using the device. Any thoughts?

Thank you again.

[JSanders]

Last night, I downloaded upgraded OS 4.5 on my wife and did not go thru. I received an error, APP Error 523.

App error 523 is often caused by a third party application which isn't compatible with the OS you have loaded. Sometimes you can plug the device in to the PC, open app loader while the hourglass is spinning and remove your third party apps until you find the one causing the problem.

[tallboyonafatboy]

Options > Advanced > Service Books. Find that email@<hidden> and delete the service book. If it returns, then that means it is not removed from your BIS account where it was setup, and you will need to delete the account there.

Hey JSanders, thanks. That simple little procedure worked.

[JSanders]

Has anyone upgraded from 4.2.2 on Rogers to this new firmware?

I'm using a locked 8310 on Rogers...... Will find unlocking software soon (Hopefully here).

Thanks

Yes, they have. This is OS 4.5 is compatible with your Rogers model 8310, and many have upgraded to it.

Being locked to Rogers won't keep you from using this device OS.

Finally, you won't find any "unlocking software" as that must be done either by your carrier (and I understand that Rogers will no longer unlock their devices) or by an unlocking vendor such as HorizonWirelessOnline.com - Horizon Wireless, The World&rsquo;s Cellular Repair Center ß (http://www.horizonwirelessonline.com) (use their BBForums discount, see our sponsor section or their ads on pages here).
How do I unlock my BlackBerry? - BlackBerryFAQ (http://www.blackberryfaq.com/index.php/How_do_I_unlock_my_BlackBerry%3F)

[shona67]

App error 523 is often caused by a third party application which isn't compatible with the OS you have loaded. Sometimes you can plug the device in to the PC, open app loader while the hourglass is spinning and remove your third party apps until you find the one causing the problem.

Ok what is your suggestion? Re-load? I am trying to avoid using Jl Cmder (this will be the last opition).

[BB Beast]

Looks like my GPS took a crap again after update .37 to .55 . Not only doesn't my BBMaps show up but i cant find satellites when i refresh my GPS in the settings....Any Ideas?

*EDIT* Ok it's finding my postion when i refresh GPs and GPs is working in google maps but BBMaps still wont show up

[kenv]

Looks like my GPS took a crap again after update .37 to .55 . Not only doesn't my BBMaps show up but i cant find satellites when i refresh my GPS in the settings....Any Ideas?

*EDIT* Ok it's finding my postion when i refresh GPs and GPs is working in google maps but BBMaps still wont show up

I finally bit the bullet, and upgraded from .52 to .55. It turned out to be considerably more work than my past upgrades to .37 (from 4.2) and to .52 (from .37). First, it wiped my BB and I got the white screen with the 507 error. I reinstalled the OS without difficulty, and restored from the backup, and almost everything was in place as before. But not BB Maps.

What you have to do is to DL BB Maps 1.2 separately onto your computer--somewhere in this long thread there is a link to BB for doing that. Then you have to remove BB maps from the BB using the application tool in Desktop Manager. Then, you have to add in the lbs.alx or similar file as an add-on from the BB Maps folder you will have created on your computer. Then, after a reboot, you should have it on the BB and working, even with ATT.

Now--my own question to John Clark or one of the other resident experts here: In Desktop Manager, both with BB Maps and with Documents to Go, and after upgrading D to Go to 1002.016 via Dataviz, the Applications program wants to /downgrade/ both applications to the original versions. I have tried removing the alx files for these apps from the OS directory on the computer, but even after restarting Desktop Mgr it doesn't seem to help. How do I get the Desktop Mgr to recognize the current, updated state of my BB with 4.5.0.55 and BB Maps and Docs to Go?

Otherwise, everything seems fine with .55. I hope this is the last upgrade for a while.

[millerme]

hi im new here, i have a monster of a problem... i dl the update, did what it said, now i get a 561 error or i get a 507 error on the screen, when i try to reconnect my 8310 it prompts me for a password on the dm, i never put a password on it. WTF!!!! now my bb is in lock down and i cant do anything with it but use it as a paper weight.... HELP!!!!!

[xgd]

Have you tried to press okay. (without entering a password)

[JSanders]

millerme, when do you get the 561 or 507 error?

Are you on a corporate BES?

Can you go to Options > Security > General Settings and disable the password?

AND, where did you get the BB, and did it work well for you before this OS upgrade?

[millerme]

millerme, when do you get the 561 or 507 error?

Are you on a corporate BES?

Can you go to Options > Security > General Settings and disable the password?

AND, where did you get the BB, and did it work well for you before this OS upgrade?

yes it worked great. i get the 561 or the 507 whenever it powers up or i connect to the dm. i dont have a corporate bes.

[YJGUY]

Has anyone upgraded from 4.2.2 on Rogers to this new firmware?

I'm using a locked 8310 on Rogers...... Will find unlocking software soon (Hopefully here).

Thanks


I did last night. Never upgraded the OS before (was on 4.2.2) but it was pretty straight forward. It took about 1 hour to complete. I did get nervous at one point because about halfway though the instal it just kept say "connecting to device" but nothing seemed to be happening. It sorted it's self out and seems to fine. The GUI interface is a bit nicer and the video camera will come in handy.

[Ironman1075]

Thanks for the find..updating now :)

[tallboyonafatboy]

hey JSanders....can ya answer this? I just downloaded the most recent OS 5.5. when I attach a pic to an work account email and send it to my att.blackberry.net account the pic doesn't show up in the email, nor an option to open attachment. but when I go back to my original email and forward it ...it then shows up. any ideas?

[John Clark]

I want OS 5.5!!

[sheldonbk]

If its any consolation - I have the same problem... have not figured out how to fix it yet.

Same problem here on my 8310 OS 4.5.0.55 - For a long time, it just wanted to constantly install (or was it uninstall) the Basque Language. Now, Just yesterday, I noticed it says I need to upgrade "Basque language support", "Blackberry 4.5.0 Core-Applications" and "Password Keeper". After saying to proceed, I get the Update Summary "No Software update is required for your device".

Just curious.. do you guys also have PocketDay installed? I mentioned noticing this yesterday and yesterday I installed the new PocketDay beta. (I didn't have any version of PocketDay on my BB before.)

[yorrick]

Same problem here on my 8310 OS 4.5.0.55 - For a long time, it just wanted to constantly install (or was it uninstall) the Basque Language. Now, Just yesterday, I noticed it says I need to upgrade "Basque language support", "Blackberry 4.5.0 Core-Applications" and "Password Keeper". After saying to proceed, I get the Update Summary "No Software update is required for your device".

Just curious.. do you guys also have PocketDay installed? I mentioned noticing this yesterday and yesterday I installed the new PocketDay beta. (I didn't have any version of PocketDay on my BB before.)

I had the same problem and if you look at the Basque language - it is something like XXXX_bb_resources_eu.cod
Mobylo Surewipe can delete this module and the update messages will go away. For some off reason - the checkbox is left unchecked - DM will try to remove the Basque language option. If you check the box, it thinks it needs to be installed.

[BB Beast]

I finally bit the bullet, and upgraded from .52 to .55. It turned out to be considerably more work than my past upgrades to .37 (from 4.2) and to .52 (from .37). First, it wiped my BB and I got the white screen with the 507 error. I reinstalled the OS without difficulty, and restored from the backup, and almost everything was in place as before. But not BB Maps.

What you have to do is to DL BB Maps 1.2 separately onto your computer--somewhere in this long thread there is a link to BB for doing that. Then you have to remove BB maps from the BB using the application tool in Desktop Manager. Then, you have to add in the lbs.alx or similar file as an add-on from the BB Maps folder you will have created on your computer. Then, after a reboot, you should have it on the BB and working, even with ATT.

Now--my own question to John Clark or one of the other resident experts here: In Desktop Manager, both with BB Maps and with Documents to Go, and after upgrading D to Go to 1002.016 via Dataviz, the Applications program wants to /downgrade/ both applications to the original versions. I have tried removing the alx files for these apps from the OS directory on the computer, but even after restarting Desktop Mgr it doesn't seem to help. How do I get the Desktop Mgr to recognize the current, updated state of my BB with 4.5.0.55 and BB Maps and Docs to Go?

Otherwise, everything seems fine with .55. I hope this is the last upgrade for a while.

Did exactly that, the same thing i had to do the last time but still no go.....And when i put the older version of BBMaps on my phone everytime my phone starts i get a java exception error as soon as my phone boots

[millerme]

ok, ive been on the phone with a att tech for the last 4 hrs to solve the 561 and 507 errors in the upgrade, she transferred me to a rim tech, he taught me how to do a complete dump and reset to clear the 561 and 507 errors, pull the battery and use the application loader. who would have thought it was that easy, everything went smoothly. although i lost everything, i still got my phone back in stead of a paper weight... oh, by the way just for laughs the highest there list goes on error codes is a 560, the tech never heard of a 561...

[John Clark]

We have all that info here:

What to do next if Jl Cmder will not connect and wipe - BlackBerryFAQ (http://blackberryfaq.com/index.php/What_to_do_next_if_Jl_Cmder_will_not_connect_and_wipe)

Even the first post explains what to do with a 507.

[neftv]

I had the same problem and if you look at the Basque language - it is something like XXXX_bb_resources_eu.cod
Mobylo Surewipe can delete this module and the update messages will go away. For some off reason - the checkbox is left unchecked - DM will try to remove the Basque language option. If you check the box, it thinks it needs to be installed.

I couldn't help but notice that I have the same problem with the three things to update but not really. I could not find that file you mention in Surewipe. I seem to have net_rim_bb_resource: 4.5.0.55 and net_rim_bb_resource_en: 4.5.0.55, Any thoughts?

[John Clark]

The Basque language stuff is in the .eu file, not the .en file.

[neftv]

The Basque language stuff is in the .eu file, not the .en file.

Understood but I'm not seen an .eu file,

[sheldonbk]

The Basque language stuff is in the .eu file, not the .en file.

Thx!!
Removed 7 .eu COD files - That seems to be the end of the "application updates" for the basque language, and the other two (which both had EU files).

Totally unrelated, once you install a new version of the OS, do you delete the loader folders for the prior versions. I figure if I had to roll back, it would be easy by just deleting the loader folder of the most recent install. But, now I have 4 folders of loader files and I think I also have the download files stored so it would be easy to reinstall.

[sheldonbk]

Understood but I'm not seen an .eu file,

See John's guide on how to free up memory... http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-blackberry-discussion/112029-losing-call-logs-sms-emails-optimize-your-bb-how-setup-max-free-memory.html
Files ending in EU have the COD extension.

[phlon]

I notice that when using alt + enter to lock the keyboard it only works from the applications screen, not the home screen. Anyone else having this issue?

[zippin]

Hi,
Which Desktop Manager do I need to install? Difference between: With / Without Media Manager??
Thanks for your help.

[BB Beast]

Hi,
Which Desktop Manager do I need to install? Difference between: With / Without Media Manager??
Thanks for your help.

Install the desktop manager provided in the link. The difference between the 2 is you can manage your media (Transfer Music, Videos and Pictures to your Blackberry) on your BlackBerry with the desktop manager w/Media Manager

[monotremata]

Holy crap.. about 24 hours or so of running 4.5.0.55..
I think my memory leak has disappeared!!
After the install I had my usual 21MB or so free..
I wouldve expected this to drop to about 19 at least after about an hour of use..
Just checked this morning, I didnt even plug it in to charge last night or anything, still got 20 something MB free. And Im assuming the rest is my new email that came in overnight I havent cleared yet.

Yay!!!

[gadgetfanatic]

Memory leak is good on this release but it is a battery hog!!

[zippin]

Install the desktop manager provided in the link. The difference between the 2 is you can manage your media (Transfer Music, Videos and Pictures to your Blackberry) on your BlackBerry with the desktop manager w/Media Manager

Thanks for the response. I installed the DM, backed up the device. Then installed the OS. Under APPLOADER there is one Vendor.XML file, and the date modified is 9/13/04. There is also a device.xml file and that one is dated 7/30/08. I just want to make sure I need to delete the VENDOR.XML file.
Thanks

[BB Beast]

Thanks for the response. I installed the DM, backed up the device. Then installed the OS. Under APPLOADER there is one Vendor.XML file, and the date modified is 9/13/04. There is also a device.xml file and that one is dated 7/30/08. I just want to make sure I need to delete the VENDOR.XML file.
Thanks
Yes, the only way the Desktop Manager will recognize the new OS is if you delete the vendor.xml file and only the vendor.xml file nothing else....