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Hgaara
11-08-2008, 12:18 AM
I can recieve and send MMS messages perfectly. Its in my plan but does that mean I have a data plan and therefore able to use Opera Mini?

John Clark
11-08-2008, 12:32 AM
You could probably use Opera Mini with the proper apn settings entered but you may very well be charged for it on per kb basis.

Hgaara
11-08-2008, 12:37 AM
what are apn settings? I installed it but it failed on all the 20 test =(

John Clark
11-08-2008, 12:40 AM
Go to Options >Advanced Options TCP settings.

Then enter:

apn:wap.voicestream.com
username
password

leave username and password blank.

Hgaara
11-08-2008, 01:03 AM
At a certain point near the end it states
"The application operette $2dhifi$2dus has attempted to open a connection to a location inside the firewall and outside, the firewall which is not allowed by your IT policy"

John Clark
11-08-2008, 01:26 AM
Do you have an IT Policy on the device? Look in Options >Security Options >General Settings. Scroll down to the bottom and see if there is any reference to IT policy. It's 'possible' that an IT policy will not show but there can still be an it policy. I would update your 8700 to 4.5 and follow the instructions in Method 1 in the post below:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-blackberry-discussion/67224-remove-policy.html

Hgaara
11-08-2008, 01:34 AM
Nope, I don't see anything about IT, and despite making the other topic about downgrading, I do have 4.5 so I will look at the link and come back with results.



What is JL_Cmder's "resettofactory"? And where can I find it?

John Clark
11-08-2008, 01:53 AM
It's included in JL_Cmder. You can download JL_Cmder from my signature.

Hgaara
11-08-2008, 02:02 AM
Alright and once I get it all working.. opera Mini should be able to work right?

John Clark
11-08-2008, 02:05 AM
It should. It sounds like it could have an old version of a blank IT policy on it that restricts "split pipe connections." The 'resettofactory" may very well fix it.

John Clark
11-08-2008, 02:05 AM
Make a backup first!

Hgaara
11-08-2008, 02:07 AM
On Desktop Manager I choose

BackUp and Restore--> Back Up, and that backs up everything? I am using the latest version of Desktop Manager, and when I want to restore I choose restore right?

Also do you know how many text messages the 8700c can support before I have to delete some?

John Clark
11-08-2008, 02:09 AM
Do the backup as you describe.

Then do the resettofactory.

Do the restore, if necessary.

It can hold a lot. I doubt you'll fill it up.

Hgaara
11-08-2008, 02:18 AM
It can hold a lot. I doubt you'll fill it up.

I will do that backup then. But ... how much is alot? like I really hate deleting stuff but if I must the sent folder usually goes. Is there any where I can check on the phone?

JerryD
11-08-2008, 07:41 AM
OMG! MMS is NOT a Data Plan. If you don't have a data plan, you probably can't connect to the Internet - no matter WHAT your APN settings, OR Split Pipes, or whatever!

And BTW - if you DO somehow connect to the Internet WITHOUT a Data Plan, be prepared to pay some hefty fees for per/KB data. The Phone companies just LOVE to do that!

NJBlackBerry
11-08-2008, 07:44 AM
Jerry - calm down! Who said MMS is a data plan?
The original poster is trying to figure out if Opera will work. They made a statement that MMS works.

If they can get to load Opera and get the message they did, it is generally a firewall problem. Which can be caused by an IT Policy.

JerryD
11-08-2008, 10:06 AM
It should. It sounds like it could have an old version of a blank IT policy on it that restricts "split pipe connections." The 'resettofactory" may very well fix it.
John - do you have a policy.bin that clears the firewall setting? The policy.bin on the page you referenced actually APPLIES the policy to enable the firewall.

John Clark
11-08-2008, 01:49 PM
Jerry, there is no blank policy that will clear the firewall. The policy.bin in my thread DOES remove the "split pipe connection" problem the OP is having. My first IT Policy I wrote didn't remove it and I updated it a year or two ago to remove the split pipe issues, but it always locks the firewall.

However, if you read the rest of the thread I referenced, with OS 4.3 and higher on the device you can use the "resettofactory" command in JL_Cmder to completely remove any IT policy on the device. However, the blank IT policy is still the only IT policy removal method for devices with OS 4.2 and older.