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gixxstar
02-25-2009, 02:22 PM
What would you get?

The new 8900, light, sexy, better camera, UMA calling, no 3G, etc

or

The 9000, Bigger, heavier, 3G, lesser camera, larger screen and keyboard.

I am a business:bb: and personal user so I need the functional aspects of both but need to be able to type

Poll away!:idea:

ricpac
02-25-2009, 02:27 PM
8900

jsconyers
02-25-2009, 02:30 PM
Another poster asked this very question earlier today.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-9000-series-discussion-bold/178226-bold-vs-8900-a.html

gixxstar
02-25-2009, 02:34 PM
Another poster asked this very question earlier today.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-9000-series-discussion-bold/178226-bold-vs-8900-a.html

my apologies for the re post:?

gixxstar
02-25-2009, 02:40 PM
Another poster asked this very question earlier today.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-9000-series-discussion-bold/178226-bold-vs-8900-a.html

nobody got back to that question....

rambo47
02-25-2009, 03:44 PM
I love the size of the 8900, but for me the features of 3G outweigh the slightly better form factor. Simultaneous voice and data is big for me. I know that speed-wise the 8900 is on par with the Bold, even considering EDGE vs. 3G. Now, in six months, when the rev. 2 8900 comes out with 3G I'm all over it!

gixxstar
02-25-2009, 04:03 PM
I love the size of the 8900, but for me the features of 3G outweigh the slightly better form factor. Simultaneous voice and data is big for me. I know that speed-wise the 8900 is on par with the Bold, even considering EDGE vs. 3G. Now, in six months, when the rev. 2 8900 comes out with 3G I'm all over it!

Thanks for the reply,

Yeah I like the 3G but I have to say that EDGE on the 8900 is pretty damn fast, for me I am using it for a lot of email and I like to surf as well and I am finding it a bit small.

Will RIM keep the 9000 in the lineup and evolve it or was it a one time deal?

rambo47
02-25-2009, 04:15 PM
I believe the Bold is here to stay. It's the successor to the 8800/8820 family of devices, emphasis on professional/corporate user. The Curve lineup was always aimed at home users and non-corporate types, including media-centric features like a camera, music player, etc. The line between the two model lines has been blurred recently, but I doubt either will go away or evolve into something in the middle.

gixxstar
02-25-2009, 04:20 PM
So I assume the Storm is the "direct" competition or at least RIM's entry into the touch screen market.

I personally hated the typing interface on the Storm

rambo47
02-25-2009, 06:01 PM
So I assume the Storm is the "direct" competition or at least RIM's entry into the touch screen market.

I personally hated the typing interface on the Storm

Me too. I tried one in a Verizon store a couple of times but figured such a short trial wasn't really fair. I bought a used/unlocked Verizon unit to run on AT&T. Turns out I hated the virtual keyboard even MORE than I previously thought. Sold it immediately and took a $25 loss. Cheap lesson I figure.

I think RIM got caught up in the touch screen craze, started by the iPhone, and whipped into a major trend by all the other manufacturers playing the "kill the iPhone" game. Silly, really. Interesting concept, but IMHO the touch screen virtual keyboard, especially on the Storm, gets an "Epic FAIL" rating for execution. But that's just me. I'm the guy that bet on Sony's Beta tape format, said 8-track tapes were here to stay, and that CD's would never catch on. After all, you need a friggin' laser to read CD's! Never gonna happen. :oops:

skyrider007
02-26-2009, 07:20 PM
bold ftw!

jeremyckitching
02-26-2009, 08:27 PM
8900 shun!!

SteveO86
02-26-2009, 08:40 PM
I gotta agree with Rambo on many of his points..

Of course my opinion is probably biased since like him being able to talk on the phone use data at the same time a major..

What's the Rev. 2 you mentioned?

Rhyalus
02-26-2009, 10:39 PM
Driving with GPS going and talking on the phone...mp3's in-between calls.
Awesome screen.
Super fast compared to the Curve.
Works in Korea and other countries that are unusual - everything but CDMA.

I have the Bold and love the 3G.

The form factor feels much bigger than the curve though, even the curve with the Seidio giant battery!

Biggest problem with Bold is the rotten battery life. Expecting the 3500 battery tomorrow.

R

rambo47
02-27-2009, 01:18 AM
I gotta agree with Rambo on many of his points..

Of course my opinion is probably biased since like him being able to talk on the phone use data at the same time a major..

What's the Rev. 2 you mentioned?

Revision 2 of the 8900 will be a 3G version for AT&T, Rogers, and other North American carriers using HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100. I expect Revision 3 to be a CDMA version. Alas, no AWS for T-Mobile users. At least there is no AWS version in planning currently. That could change if T-Mobile gets serious and rolls out AWS to cover a significant percentage of their users, but they've been mum on any kind of schedule.

gixxstar
02-27-2009, 03:15 AM
well it seems I am going to move to the bold...losing a little money and gaining some weight but oh well..:bb:

I send long wordy emails for work and that is about 75% of the email I do, the little qwerty pad on the 8900 just doesn't do it for me, and I when I'm surfing that little screen is not nice.

oh well I guess I am holding out for whatever is going to replace the bold, in the meantime the 9000 will be good:idea:

Cheers

rambo47
02-27-2009, 07:01 AM
Truthfully, you couldn't go wrong with either. Personal preference, especially in the keyboard, is a critical area. (y)

SteveO86
02-27-2009, 12:07 PM
Revision 2 of the 8900 will be a 3G version for AT&T, Rogers, and other North American carriers using HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100. I expect Revision 3 to be a CDMA version. Alas, no AWS for T-Mobile users. At least there is no AWS version in planning currently. That could change if T-Mobile gets serious and rolls out AWS to cover a significant percentage of their users, but they've been mum on any kind of schedule.

Cool thanks for the heads up.

Do you happen to know how that will compare to 4G (If we ever see that lol).

Or when the next revisions are expected to be rolled out?

Merovingian7
02-27-2009, 01:35 PM
Wirelessly posted

I agree that u can't go worng with either.
Personally I love the 8900 better.

gixxstar
02-27-2009, 02:31 PM
Truthfully, you couldn't go wrong with either. Personal preference, especially in the keyboard, is a critical area. (y)

Well said:idea:

gixxstar
02-27-2009, 02:34 PM
Wirelessly posted

I agree that u can't go wrong with either.
Personally I love the 8900 better.

Yeah the 8900 is sexy and super light, I also was surprised to see that they kept those damn keys.... Maybe I'm crazy but the sound of clicky keys drives me nuts:?

rambo47
02-27-2009, 02:43 PM
Cool thanks for the heads up.

Do you happen to know how that will compare to 4G (If we ever see that lol).

Or when the next revisions are expected to be rolled out?

I'm hearing the Rev. 2 is scheduled for about 6 months from now, but the schedule is still very tentative and subject to all kinds of factors that could change it. And of course all predictions, mine included, are best viewed with a bit of skepticism. I trust my sources, but I also keep a healthy measure of "I'll believe it when I see it" in my holster.

Comparisons with 4G/LTE are a long ways off! RIM engineers are still modeling how it will be handled and don't yet have a firm grasp on how they'll incorporate it into future models. Look how long it took RIM to get normal 3G into Blackberrys!

SteveO86
02-27-2009, 09:12 PM
Yea, You are probably right about the 4G, not sure how long it took RIM to get 3G in the mix since my first BB was the 8830 which was 3G :)

Thanks for the info on Rev. 2.

Blue1k
02-28-2009, 02:21 AM
Bold for me.

There is no way I would settle for a 2G phone. Being to look something up while on a call is important to me. I don't understand why people think the Bold is huge-it is not.

I love having the area to type and the larger screen to watch a movie or surf (ever try an E71?).

The 8900 has a slower processor. The only thing I see better is the camera but seriously who cares? Its a phone camera. Even N96 snapshots looks crappy on a computer or in print.

My only complaint is this: why is the internet so damn slow. Even using Opera mini it is a slug on wifi and 3G compared to the E71 (absolutely no comparison). Processing time of pages seems to take forever.

tao980
02-28-2009, 04:18 AM
Bold it is! Why would anybody turn back in time with a 3G-less smartphone in 2009?!
@<hidden>: I think internet is slow because data packets go through RIM's servers (for the built-in browser) or through Opera's servers (for Opera Mini). We would need a browser that is able to use Direct TCP connection to avoid this slowness.

google123
02-28-2009, 04:53 AM
My next berry will be the 8900, or whatever model it may be around the time i'm up for an upgrade. I like the 8900, size, screen res, vs, the size of the bold.

goodboy7
02-28-2009, 06:32 AM
8900!!! and i'm loving it!

Blue1k
02-28-2009, 10:33 AM
Bold it is! Why would anybody turn back in time with a 3G-less smartphone in 2009?!
@<hidden>: I think internet is slow because data packets go through RIM's servers (for the built-in browser) or through Opera's servers (for Opera Mini). We would need a browser that is able to use Direct TCP connection to avoid this slowness.

Maybe for the Blackberry browser, but Opera mini on the E71 and the G1 (on edge) was so much faster. Basically on the E71 it was almost instant.

Any other ideas. It should not be this slow for a phone with such a sweet core speed.

*edit. Changing the socket to http allows mini direct connection to opera servers. It is much faster now :)