Are the 8700's from Cingular locked?

[sting0r]

Quick question, does anyone know if the 8700's Cingular are selling are locked? I know for a while Cingular sold only unlocked phones, but after the AT&T merger things have changed. If somoene who has one has poped in a sim from a different provider and can let me know I would appreciate it. Thanks.

[blenahan]

Someone on these boards either yesterday or today was saying that they stuck a TMobile Sim into an 8700c and it was working great.

[NJBlackBerry]

Cingular has not shipped unlocked BlackBerrys since they bought AT&T Wireless. All of the Cingular branded 8700c BlackBerrys are coming out SIM card locked.

Some of the early release models (beta testers and the like) are probably unlocked. Early evaluation models usually are. But the 8700c BBs shipping today are locked.

[Wavester]

The only thing active under the MEPD Sim Card display is Network Active. Everything else is disabled and I believe that "Network Active" constitutes a "locked" device. I would have to pop the card back into my unlocked 7290 to verify this though.

[zero1]

if you called cingular and asked them to unlock your phone or send you and unlocked phone because of going overseas would they do that?

[NJBlackBerry]

if you called cingular and asked them to unlock your phone or send you and unlocked phone because of going overseas would they do that?
Nope. Only T-Mobile extends that courtesy to their customers.

[zero1]

meaning that i can call tmobile and ask them to unlock the 8700 or that they are the only service provider that will do that? sorry for the questions.

[NJBlackBerry]

T-Mobile will unlock T-Mobile phones for T-Mobile customers if you have been a customer of theirs for 3 months, and are in good standing from a credit perspective.

[richard371]

So is it confirmed that Cingular will not unlock under any circumstances?

[mqlq76]

I bought my cingular last week and it was locked. I did call them this past monday and asked for the unlock code. They said it will take 5 days for them to give me the code to unlock it. Hopefully I'll hear from them. I am leaving the country next week and I would like to use my 8700.

[NJBlackBerry]

You can use the 8700 out of the country without it being unlocked, you just can't put in a foreign SIM card. Be advised that if you DO put in a foreign SIM card, unless that card is from a carrier with BB service, you will lose your e-mail service.

[Boy Genius]

Besides getting a code from Cingular which I have never tried and heard that it is near impossible there is no way to unlock the 8700c

[shlingding]

tmobile told me that THEY would get the proper unlocking codes from RIM to unlock a Cinglar 8700.... Somebodys just gonna have to try it...

[NJBlackBerry]

We'll see on that one. Not sure who you spoke to at T-Mobile, but I just sent a request to our T-Mobile corporate team to unlock an 8700c. I think the chances of T-Mobile unlocking a Cingular devices are between slim and none.

[NJBlackBerry]

From T-Mobile's East Coast Engineering Manager:

"We only have the unlock codes for the devices we lock. You would need to contact Cingular for a code for the 8700."

[mqlq76]

NJblackberry: I am only interested in using my 8700 as a phone devive to make calls and use SMS 1:-"2 - *. +_( +6 (:2 9+_,(3). I do not want to get billed for roaming chargesM what ddid you mean buy loosing my email account? Thanks in advance.

[NJBlackBerry]

You will lose the ability to send or receive e-mail - you won't lose any e-mail. I poor choice of words on my part.

I'd be intereseted to know if Cingular will unlock your 8700 - even for the legitimate reason you give them. Them have been completely unreasonably when we've asked for unlock codes in the past. One of the reasons I am a T-Mobile customer.

[zero1]

i know how to unlock the 8700...

[likefre]

i know how to unlock the 8700...
yes?

[zero1]

well heres the thing, i found someone to get me a 8700, hes a cingular cust. and all we did was called cingular and said that we need an unlock code for the 8700. Cingular responded with "what do you need that for, we can only provide that if you submit a request" so we told the rep that it was for oversees travel and said that that is the only way they WOULD unlock it. its basically like help desk, enter ticket, wait for response, initiate action.

[NJBlackBerry]

Until you actually TRY TO GET IT UNLOCKED. Then, they can't do it.
I have tried so many times... I know someone knows someone who works at Cingular and says he knows they will do it. But just try it.

[zero1]

i guess you have a point, i was thinking, wouldnt the world be better if all phones were sold unlocked! wed be one very happy group of techies

[nopesos]

I called the International Department and indicated I needed to travel overseas and would like to use a prepaid SIM card. I happened to get a very nice person and she asked if I paid full price and I indicated yes; I paid $399. I faxed her a letter stating my reason and a copy of the receipt. 2 days later I received an email indicating I would receive an unlock code in 5 days. Today I got an email with the unlock code and instructions and it worked. I will experiment with my T-mobile SIM and let you know how it goes. I have always used the T-Mobile Blackberry Service for Internet based email and it is superior to the Cingular Service (I am not referring to BES). I just switched to Cingular because I wanted the EDGE and the new 8700c. Will post a followup.

[mqlq76]

Do you have the number for the International Department?

[projectorkid]

i bought my 8700c while in the States last week. At the same time, I am a Cingular customer. The sales rep told me I copuld easily get it unlocked at www.gsmlocker.com I have paid the fee, and they responded yesterdy telling me they need 24-48hrs. Waiting to hee back.......

[zero1]

seems to me that paying 129 is just not a good deal to unlock it. Cingular should provide options.

[projectorkid]

i bought my 8700c while in the States last week. At the same time, I am a Cingular customer. The sales rep told me I copuld easily get it unlocked at www.gsmlocker.com I have paid the fee, and they responded yesterdy telling me they need 24-48hrs. Waiting to hear back.......

[projectorkid]

your right, however i just received the code and it WORKS! I unlocked it and did an "Enterprise Activation" works pertfect....

[richard371]

So that gsmlocker company was able to provide you the code? I wonder where they were able to get it?

Have you tried to use it with tmobile web email. How do you configure it to work with tmobile?

[richard371]

Im worried if I pay 130 and the device has to be replaced ill have to pay it again etc.

[dolo]

great point richard....great point, anyone explore this question with any of the UL'ers?

Regards,
dolo

[richard371]

Unlockers will not give you another code if you loose or replace your BB. They usualy have to pay to get these codes so it's a 1 shot deal. This I do know. Besides people would cliam they lost or replaced there bb to try to get a free code etc.

[dolo]

makes sense.

Thanks Richard.

[NJBlackBerry]

I was just on gsmunlocker's site. They clearly state they will unlock only AT&T and T-Mobile. But Cingular is the only 8700 vendor in the US. So, if they are unlocking 8700c BlackBerrys, doesn't that contradict with the statement that they only unlock AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile. I would gladly (well, not gladly) pay them the $129 but I don't want to get ripped off.

[celcius]

I called the International Department and indicated I needed to travel overseas and would like to use a prepaid SIM card. I happened to get a very nice person and she asked if I paid full price and I indicated yes; I paid $399. I faxed her a letter stating my reason and a copy of the receipt. 2 days later I received an email indicating I would receive an unlock code in 5 days. Today I got an email with the unlock code and instructions and it worked. I will experiment with my T-mobile SIM and let you know how it goes. I have always used the T-Mobile Blackberry Service for Internet based email and it is superior to the Cingular Service (I am not referring to BES). I just switched to Cingular because I wanted the EDGE and the new 8700c. Will post a followup.

This is interesting because I had a similar experience with my previous phone, a Motorola V551, which I wanted to get unlocked. I had paid full price for the phone and I had to fax them a copy of the receipt proving it. A few days later I was emailed an unlock code. I believe that paying full retail had something to do with me being able to get an unlock code.

[takeshi]

your right, however i just received the code and it WORKS! I unlocked it and did an "Enterprise Activation" works pertfect....

So did you indicate that it was locked to AT&T? As NJ states, they only offer AT&T and T-Mobile as options for the network choice.

[projectorkid]

I was just on gsmunlocker's site. They clearly state they will unlock only AT&T and T-Mobile. But Cingular is the only 8700 vendor in the US. So, if they are unlocking 8700c BlackBerrys, doesn't that contradict with the statement that they only unlock AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile. I would gladly (well, not gladly) pay them the $129 but I don't want to get ripped off.

Yes, it worked perfect. You must give them the PIN + IMEI number. If anyone else does do this, let's cross-check the unlock codes provided, they might even be the same. I will gladly post the message GSMLOCKER sent me

[anthonymoody]

projectorkid,
just to confirm, you specifically told them it was locked to cingular? i'm considering doing this too since I'm a TMo sub...
TM

[NJBlackBerry]

I sent a message to GSMLocker specifically asking it they can unlock a Cingular-locked 8700c, since their web site says AT&T and T-Mobile only. I'll see what they say.

[likefre]

Yes, it worked perfect. You must give them the PIN + IMEI number. If anyone else does do this, let's cross-check the unlock codes provided, they might even be the same. I will gladly post the message GSMLOCKER sent me

just out of curiosity, other than being able to use it in different gsm carriers, what other features/advantages you have for having and unlocked unit..Do you get some other apps or features not available for customers with locked 8700?

[NJBlackBerry]

Nope. I just want to use it on T-Mobile. That's all. No additional apps or anything.

[zero1]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlock-Your-Cingular-BlackBerry-8700c-Remotely_W0QQitemZ5837713974QQcategoryZ43312QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
heres a guy who is unlocking them for cheap

when your phone is unlocked it increases your resale value first of all, second it will provide you access to any network that is GSM i.e.: tmobile, cingular, att, rogers, etc.
gives you lots more flexibility in networks, carriers, plan options

[anthonymoody]

I'm trying this guy, cheapest I've seen. I'll report back...thanks for the link!
TM

[zero1]

i will second that if he turns out ok

[likefre]

i will second that if he turns out ok
thakns nj and zero1,
i gues i'll wait since i can find an uunlocking service cheaper everytime i look for it (for the 8700) i guess somewhere down the road you will find it for free, like it is for lots of other phones, also im not planning on leaving cingular/att anytime in the near future

[dolo]

gsmphonesource seems reputable enough based on his ebay feedback and ratings.

Given the UL codes are generated during the week, we probably won't hear back until next week...but please do share...

Regards,
dolo

[Boy Genius]

From my expierience you need an IMEI number AND PIN number to unlock a blackberry...I do not believe this guy on ebay can do it...

[knoppe01]

Just upgrades to 8700c from 7290. Our Telecom people told me to use the SIM from the 7290 ATTWS - worked like a charm and is unlocked as the 7290 was.

[richard371]

The guy has an email addy on his add so I used the contact seller to make sure it is really his account and it has not been compromised. Lots of times ebay adds with email addys on them are hijacked. Will report back. Also those who have success please report back too.

[takeshi]

The ability to use an AT&T SIM in an 8700c doesn't mean it's unlocked. The 8700c's are able to use both orange and blue SIM's. The only way to tell if your 8700c is locked is to use another carrier's SIM or to go to SIM Properties and type in MEPD. If it says that the network lock is active then it's locked.

[n1976jmk]

I've purchased phones from this guy(Adam)/GSMPHONESOURCE over the past 4 years, his buisness started out on howardforums and grew to a real store, he is out of Las Vegas, awesome guy, check his website.... gsmphonesource (http://www.gsmphonesource.com)

he is for real.....

[knoppe01]

The ability to use an AT&T SIM in an 8700c doesn't mean it's unlocked. The 8700c's are able to use both orange and blue SIM's. The only way to tell if your 8700c is locked is to use another carrier's SIM or to go to SIM Properties and type in MEPD. If it says that the network lock is active then it's locked.

Question - how exactly do you do that. I see the SIM card under advanced options in the options area. If I clicl the track wheel my choices are edit SIM phone number, change PIN2 code, enable security and close.

In am able to switch from automatic to manual in the network area and scan and then change carriers - I thought that meant it was unlocked.

[NJBlackBerry]

Locked means you can not use a different carrier's SIM card in it. It has nothing to do with the network selection. Network selection comes into play if you travel overseas, and have a choice of carriers to lock on to. You can either "automatically" grab one, or manually select one.

[projectorkid]

Question - how exactly do you do that. I see the SIM card under advanced options in the options area. If I clicl the track wheel my choices are edit SIM phone number, change PIN2 code, enable security and close.

In am able to switch from automatic to manual in the network area and scan and then change carriers - I thought that meant it was unlocked.

You need to type M E P D while in the advanced options menu. The menu will then show youif the servies are locked/unlocked

[jameand]

You need to type M E P D while in the advanced options menu. The menu will then show youif the servies are locked/unlocked

I just ordered my 8700, so I'm curious to see if mine is locked. I just tryed MEPD in the Options>SIM card and "Personalization: with a list of SIM, Network, Network Subset, Service Provider, Corporate" all have "Disabled" next to them. Does that mean it is unlocked? Is there any one source to find all the "hack" codes to really dig up the nitty gritty details and all "repair guy" codes?
thanks!

[knoppe01]

Thanks guys - I guess I'm locked - it says Network Active

[zero1]

theres gotta be some genius out there that will put together a freeware peice of gold that will unlock. kinda like serial key generators. if math has taught me anything is that theres gotta be some sort of pattern to it or to anything for that matter. it cant be that hard.

[dolo]

Zero,

you figure it out - you're sitting on a gold mine!

I will gladly help you "test" codes. ;)

ahahaha.

Snow coming in the NYC area tonight!

Regards,
dolo

[zero1]

your sarcasm is much enjoyed.

[gsmps]

From my expierience you need an IMEI number AND PIN number to unlock a blackberry...I do not believe this guy on ebay can do it...

I can do it, and have already done it for several customers. The only thing with unlocking the 8700c is that you should have a non-cingular sim in the 8700c while doing the unlock procedure

[eros18]

I can do it, and have already done it for several customers. The only thing with unlocking the 8700c is that you should have a non-cingular sim in the 8700c while doing the unlock procedure

What is your turn around for the unlocking code/instructions once the Buy It Now is paid for ?

[gsmps]

Normally same day if I get the payment by 3pm EST

[richard371]

If anyone has problems getting the free ones from RIM unlocked using the pay services please post.

[Dude]

Normally same day if I get the payment by 3pm EST

Looks like 5 individuals purchased this unlocking service during the weekend and before 2:33pm EST today [tmoody, salmufti, ronner5xto, mating23, entropylives]. I'm sure that some of you are members here. Any feedback? (I'm hoping it's all great news!)

-Dude

[richard371]

I am concerend that you will not be able to get the free ones from RIM unlocked due to the codes not being available. The code for mine is not available yet.

[mqlq76]

Bought the unlock code from gsmps last night and am supposed to get the unlock code today. Will post if it works.

[NJBlackBerry]

I sent an e-mail to GSMLOCKER asking specifically if they can unlock a Cingular 8700c. Here is their verbatim answer:

"Solution History:
Date:12/6/2005 9:35:55 AM
I would like to inform that we are at present providing service for USA ATT & T-Mobile only. Our engineers are working on this phone and updation is possible in near future (say within nxt 1 week).

Please keep checking our website in future. Thanks for your co-operation."

[Entropy666]

Looks like 5 individuals purchased this unlocking service during the weekend and before 2:33pm EST today [tmoody, salmufti, ronner5xto, mating23, entropylives]. I'm sure that some of you are members here. Any feedback? (I'm hoping it's all great news!)

-Dude
I (entropylives) purchased the unlocking service from ebay yesterday at 2:30 EST he has a 24 hour turnaround posted on the auction. Its been 24 hours but i am sure i will hear from him soon. I will post the results when i have them

[richard371]

Entropy did you get your 8700 free from the launch party? If so you may end up like me where the code is not available :(

[Entropy666]

Entropy did you get your 8700 free from the launch party? If so you may end up like me where the code is not available :(

No i got it at a cingular store in manhattan less than a week ago

[anthonymoody]

I also bought mine from him over the weekend. By end of day yesterday he had tried and failed to get an unlock code, and refunded my payment. I've been trying to reach him to see if he'd try again for me. Please keep us posted...

TM

PS - mine is from the launch party - richard has it been confirmed that launch party phones cannot be unlocked? where/when/by whom?

[richard371]

It is not confirmed but I tried the same source as you and he could not get my code either. I am almost willing to bet RIM did not give Cingular the codes for these since they came from RIM directly.

[anthonymoody]

Hmm. Strange. Worth somehow trying RIM directly?

[Entropy666]

i just got this email from him:
> No worries, I just sent my list of imeis to get processed and you will have
> yours back today.
Hopefully this is a good sign though i did not get mine from a launch party rather from a cingular store

[richard371]

We have tsupport with RIM. I tried and they said they don't have them and to contact Cingular. I called Cingular and they will not give them out.

[mqlq76]

i emailed gsmps re my unlock code to confirm if he wil be able to get it for me as i am leaving the country this thursday. he said that he will send it to me by this afternoon.

[richard371]

Everyone please post back your results and please state wether you bought it or it was free from the launch party.

[n1976jmk]

i bought through a store in vegas, awaiting to recieve it, it was unlocked by him, before he shipped it, will report back tomorrow night when i drop my t-mo sim in it... have been doing buisness with him for cell phones for over 4 yrs. very good guy!!!

here is a link to his unlock remotely 8700c sale......

ebay auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5837713974&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1)

should be about 27 hours from now.. that i'll be back running on a bb, and a 8700c no less.....

[NJBlackBerry]

Just got an unlock code from gsmps and successfully unlocked my 8700c. Up and running on T-Mobile now!

Gotta run to give positive feedback on eBay.

[richard371]

NJBlackberry did you get your BB from Cingular or was it a free one from the launch party?

[DaMaDo]

I just got the unlock code from GSMPS and it worked...using a T-mo sim now =)

Edit: Mine's not a launch party phone...ordered on the phone from cing.

[NJBlackBerry]

Not from the launch party. I bought it without a contract from eAccess.Com; branded Cingular.

[takeshi]

Mine's unlocked as well, thanks to gsmphonesource! My 8700c wasn't from the launch party either.

[mqlq76]

i got my unlocked code from gsmps but i havent tried it yet. regarding step #7 on the instruction he gave you.. when you hold the ALT key then type MEPE wouldnt it come out as numbers?

[NJBlackBerry]

Nope; it is pretty smart... ALT MEPE is right.

[mqlq76]

Mine is unlocked too..yippeeeeeeeeeeeee thanks gsmps :)

[dolo]

So it seems that those handhelds from the launch party cannot be unlocked...?

Maybe we can gather the forces and have a quick memo sent to RIM.

;)

regard,
dolo

[Soapm]

Nice to hear!

[Entropy666]

He has come through. I am now unlocked!!! about to leave some glowing feedback for this guy. I purchased this on ebay with a 10% off certificate so i got the phone unlocked for 40$!!!
Damn im having a good week!
Now all i have to do is find a replacement for this cingular theme that doesnt stick all my applications in the ribbon

[Dude]

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Well, if RIM didn't send those codes to Cingular, then perhaps RIM could do the unlocking.

I have an overseas trip planned for February, so I'm rather hopeful that by then (one) I'll get the launch blackberry and (two) this unlocking mess will get worked out.

Truly, you don't look a gift horse in the mouth, but you get what you pay for :)

[richard371]

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I'm about ready to put her on ebay and go buy one that can be unlocked.

[jnelson2000]

I have both my launch 8700 and one I bought from NBO unlocked. The one from NBO was unlocked by Cingular directly.

[hyperevo8]

i got mine unlocked in 5min on the phone with international customer care for cingular. told em i am going to be traveling the next day and they asked me for imei and gave me a unlock code right away. - Why pay $45 for Adam while you can get it for free from Cingular itself? Here's a proof..

http://tinypic.com/ibguc1.jpg On the Sim card section.. shows disabled all the way...

http://tinypic.com/ibguhy.jpg
Using Tmobile Simcard and using a Cingular theme..

Again.. Thanks to NoPesos for the suggestions to call international services - !!

[saldous]

What is the phone number for International Services?

[hyperevo8]

800-335-5685 (they are 24hrs)

[szumlanski]

Number is 800-335-4685

No questions asked (just IMEI). They are sending instructions to me by email in 3-5 days. They could not give it to me immediately.

[takeshi]

International wouldn't unlock mine as it was discounted or new or some other reason. While free would have been nice, I really didn't feel like spending additional time on the phone with Cingular.

If you do decide to use gsmps, search Fatwallet's Hot Deals forum for the Paypal 10% discount.

[richard371]

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Guys the free ones from the launch party cannot be unlocked. Cingular does not have the codes for these. I have confirmed this. I do not know if they will get them in the future.

[anthonymoody]

Yeah when I called the int'l # they ask me what my Cingular phone number is. Since i don't have one, they won't unlock it for me. They said I had to fax a receipt in...

TM

[n1976jmk]

I just recieved the unlocked bb 8700c from Adam @<hidden> gsmphonesource about 30 minutes ago. I poped my tmo sim in, registered the device(under host routing table), 2nd-went to tmo BIS website, updated the IMEI(already had the new pin cause i registered it from handheld first), sent the service books, and 30 seconds later i had 41 unread emails from comcast account that were on the comcast server. checked internet is good to go, t-zones icon is there, phone call is good to go, so seems all set....

NOW ALL U TMO CUSTOMERS GO GET THOSE 8700C'S UNLOCKED, SO U CAN USE THIS AWESOME BB!!!!

[likefre]

I just recieved the unlocked bb 8700c from Adam @<hidden> gsmphonesource about 30 minutes ago. I poped my tmo sim in, registered the device(under host routing table), 2nd-went to tmo BIS website, updated the IMEI(already had the new pin cause i registered it from handheld first), sent the service books, and 30 seconds later i had 41 unread emails from comcast account that were on the comcast server. checked internet is good to go, t-zones icon is there, phone call is good to go, so seems all set....

NOW ALL U TMO CUSTOMERS GO GET THOSE 8700C'S UNLOCKED, SO U CAN USE THIS AWESOME BB!!!!
Just for the heck of it, since everybody is getting their phones unlocked 8-) , i requested from international business care at 9am this morning the unlock code for my 8700. They said that it would take anywhere from 48hrs to 2 weeks. Guess what, I just got the code via email, and the best part, for free!!! :razz:

[gsmps]

If you are a Cingular customer it is a good idea to try those type of avenues to get an unlock code for free. For those people who dont feel like dealing with their stupidity or just are not a Cingular customer thats where I come in

[richard371]

They would not unlock mine because we are on the ATT blue side. I swear this Cingular/ATT is the worst company I have every dealt with in my life. I refuse to switch to them. Everytime I get someone on the phone I feel like they have no idea what they are doing.

[dolo]

just tried - they told me a couple things:

1) the phone has to be active for at least 3 months
2) the phone must show up as "listed on the account"

So no, wasn't able to get it unlocked. Did you all go through this process by any chance?

Regards,
dolo

[likefre]

just tried - they told me a couple things:

1) the phone has to be active for at least 3 months
2) the phone must show up as "listed on the account"

So no, wasn't able to get it unlocked. Did you all go through this process by any chance?

Regards,
dolo

Well the only thing that the rep checked was if I was a customer for at least three months, and asked me for the phone's imei. He also said that he needed to check the account to make sure i had at least the international roaming feature(the free one) he said that that was one of the requirements in order to request the unlock code. He never said anything about the phone being "listed on the account". At least he did not mention anything in that regard.

[dolo]

great insight likefre.

good to know the free international roaming feature should be enabled.

Regards,
dolo

[Wavester]

WOW!!

You guys are right. One call to the interenational customer service and after giving phone number and IMEI I had the instructions emailed to me in 15 minutes (a record only beaten by Mark in getting the PocketDay Activation Codes) It was so painless I could not believe i was dealing with Cingular. One thing he did say was that I did have my blackberry account over three months. Since I've heard something similar from the TMO people maybe it was just a matter for the Cingular people to get the right department.

Kudos to NoPesos and hyperevo8 as well as anyone else I missed. This euphoria will carry me into the weekend.

[richard371]

I wish they would get their crap together about the blue and oarnge stuff. They will not do it for Blue accounts because ATT never unlocked devices. Funny thing is they are going back to ATT. What a shame.

[Dude]

So has any Cingular customer been able to unlock their launch 8700 through International Services?

Has any Cingular customer failed at unlocking their launch 8700 through International Services?

[rjharary]

I dont see why they would have trouble unlocking it dude, the only one who could have locked it in the first place is Cingular, and they are the ones who should unlock it for you... i know from my 7100 that they are very reluctant, even more than any other phone, but they can do it.

[richard371]

The guy that has access to the Cingular unlock codes tried mine twice and came back with nothing. He is able to get all the ones from Cing unlocked. I think RIM locks them for Cingular and sends the codes to Cingular. I don't think RIM sent the codes for the free ones they sent out from the launch party. So far no one has been able to get their "black leather box" unit from RIM unlocked.

[anthonymoody]

That includes me :(

TM

[kartooz]

the rumours of cellularclinic.com unlocking blackberry is wrong i have contacted them. the solution for unlocking is not out yet.
they are only unlocking plam treo's and XDA's

[anthonymoody]

Actually, some people have definitely had success unlocking 8700c's. However, these do NOT include units gotten as part of the launch event.

TM

[NJBlackBerry]

Kartooz - I am using an unlocked 8700c on T-Mobile...

[anthonymoody]

NJB,
To reduce confusion, maybe we should specify whether the 8700c's in question are from the launch event or not. Non-launch event 8700c's have been unlocked successfully. Launch event 8700c's have not, to my knowledge, been unlocked.

TM

[NJBlackBerry]

I think that has been made clear far too many times.

[jameand]

I just talked to Cingular International support, they were helpful and even offered to correct a international roaming plan that was setup wrong. The guy said the instructions and unlock code would be sent to me with in 5 days. Since it was the weekend, it wouldn't be right away-I'll let you know how it goes when I get a response.

New Question: Once it is unlocked, if I type "M E P D" while viewing the Settings>Options>Advanced Options>SIM page, I should see all DISABLED items for each status line? And will that then show me MANUAL or AUTOMATIC selection of network in the Settings>Options>Network control page? What allows me to select a network when roaming internatioanally with an unlocked 8700 or 7290? Thanks in advance!

[tfaz1]

Stupid question, but once I unlock my 8700c, will I get a full HTML browser for use on T-Mo's network? Seems like there have been problems with Cingular and getting an HTML browser on the 8700c.

[riley9576]

gotta question about Rogers (8700r). would i have to go through the process of securing the unlock code from the carrier, similar to what everyone's done here with cingular? Roger's isn't overly helpful in providing unlock codes, so i'm holding my breath for Bongo Wireless.

Does anyone else have any possible suggestions?!

Thanks a bunch!

[anthonymoody]

I think that has been made clear far too many times.


i disagree. As more people receive their launch event 8700s (there are many who still have not) this question will inevitably continue to come up - people don't use the search function after all :)

TM

[jameand]

Ok, just got some great service from Cingular International Customer service. I got an email from the "Cingular Unlock Team" after my first request for the unlock code that said, "we can not provide the code while you still owe money on the account" or something to that effect. In fact, it was my normal bill that is due on the 20th of the month and is on auto pay. So, I called Intl customer care back and told this nice lady the story and for my trouble, she re issued the unlock request and gave me the current unlock directions over the phone with a code she said "might or might not work" but she would still keep the re-request in to Cingular. So, I tryed the directions and code and it worked! I have all "DISABLED" listed on my SIM card page after typing MEPD. I don't know if the code is unique to my IMEI, maybe you all have some leads on that? Is the code the same for everyone or unique?

[NJBlackBerry]

i disagree. As more people receive their launch event 8700s (there are many who still have not) this question will inevitably continue to come up - people don't use the search function after all :)

TM
OK - if you think so.

THE BLACKBERRYS FROM THE LAUNCH EVENT CAN NOT BE UNLOCKED. REPEAT: THE BLACKBERRYS FROM THE LAUNCH EVENT CAN NOT BE UNLOCKED.

[Lex Luthor]

gotta question about Rogers (8700r). would i have to go through the process of securing the unlock code from the carrier, similar to what everyone's done here with cingular? Roger's isn't overly helpful in providing unlock codes, so i'm holding my breath for Bongo Wireless.

Does anyone else have any possible suggestions?!

Thanks a bunch!


I have heard about a few people who run grey market stores for cell phones that are working on unlocking the 8700r but nobody has seem to do it yet. I betting Kevin and his team @<hidden> Bongo will do it first but other than that not much else can be done. If you want the unlock code from Rogers then be prepared to cough up the big bucks.

[ad65]

I have been able to unlock my launch 8700C.

[dolo]

Ok - you ened to share some info.

You can't just sit there with that big grin on your face!

[ad65]

GSMLOCKER.COM for $130.00. Worked and I am now using Tmobile's EDGE network.

[n1976jmk]

wow..... 130 bucks!!! adam does for 40, but 130 is pretty high, even if its the launch event BB!!!

that doesnt seem that fair?

[NJBlackBerry]

Supply and demand. If he is the only one who can unlock it, he can charge anything he wants to. Fair or not...

[ad65]

Adam was unable to provide a code and I wanted to stay with TMobile.

[n1976jmk]

i run a small buisness myself, i dont price guage, later on it will bite people like that

[anthonymoody]

Yeah I decided at the end of the day to sell mine (on ebay now) b/c I don't want to pay $130 to unlock it. Plus, I've been with TMo for so long (early Voicestream days) and have such a huge plan that they always give me subsidy pricing anyway - so if/when they offer the proper 8700t (hopefully in BLACKberry), I may buy one then. May wind up paying more than $130 but so be it.

TM

[diegosalinas]

So, for those that did not get their BB at a launch event and are not Cingular customers...how did you get your BB? did you just walk into Cingular and pay full retail?

[crdean1]

I'm on Cingular, and have the 8700c. I just faxed my receipt to the international dept. to get mine unlocked. I'll post an update when I get the email.

Thanks very much you all.

[saldous]

Number is 800-335-4685

No questions asked (just IMEI). They are sending instructions to me by email in 3-5 days. They could not give it to me immediately.

Can someone help me here. I called this number and asked for the unlock code. They tell me my phone is on the "blue side" (old AT&T contract) and that they can't provide the unlock code. Even though this is a new Cingular 8700c device, not an old AT&T one. Can anyone confirm if this is true or if they are talking rubbish? If rubbish, who can I contact to get them to do this?

Thanks.

[richard371]

Yes this is very true. I have called them 4 times and they will not give it out. It was ATT policy never to give them out. And to think Cingular is switching back to ATT. I hope it is just the name and not the policys.

[saldous]

I don't understand why this is the case. It is a Cingular phone, not an AT&T one, so they will have the code for it. If it is just policy then that's a different story. I've asked my company to see if they can sort it out.

I emailed GSMPONESOURCE and they say they can unlock it fine.

[richard371]

They go by your account when you call in. If it comes up as an ATT account they will not give you the code no matter what device you have. Our company is in the ATT side.

[Sachin.g]

You can get this phone unlocked at gsmlocker.com .They are best in the business.

I have done it with them & successfully to get your phone unlocked.

i would recommned you to try their service.

[Sachin.g]

I can provide you unlock codes for 8700c locked to any network worldwide at very reasonable rates.

Do reply to me if you me at mycellzone@<hidden>

[Sachin.g]

I can provide you unlock codes for 8700c locked to any network worldwide at very reasonable rates.

Do reply to me if you me at mycellzone@<hidden>. I hope there would be lots of guys.

[Sachin.g]

I'm on Cingular, and have the 8700c. I just faxed my receipt to the international dept. to get mine unlocked. I'll post an update when I get the email.

Thanks very much you all.
I can provide you unlock codes for 8700c locked to any network worldwide at very reasonable rates.

Do reply to me if you me at mycellzone@<hidden> . so come to me to unlock your phone

[NJBlackBerry]

Any references for Sanchin.g?

[Sachin.g]

You can get this phone unlocked at gsmlocker.com .They are best in the business.

I have done it with them & successfully to get your phone unlocked.

i would recommned you to try their service.

[gsmps]

Sounds like some clown, besides that my rates are most affordable and I have the feedback and customers to back me up. Someone should remove the redundant posts

[Sachin.g]

GSMLOCKER.COM:

They are about to start unlocking for BB phones on network. I sent a mail to them and they replied me with the below content.

We are about to start blackberry unlocking on all networks. It wil be live within next 2 days.

Do place order with us to get your phone unlocked from the link below,
http://www.gsmlocker.com/blackberryunlock.asp

We are also about to start unlocking for BB 8700R locked to any network worldwide.

I am very satisfied with their service.

GO GUYS,CHK IF THEY CAN DO IT.

[NJBlackBerry]

Sachin.g - I am officially declaring you a spammer.

Stop posting about unlocking unless you offer the service yourself. GSMLocker and GSMPhoneSource, along with the long established Bongo Wireless are well known here.

Immediately stop posting multiple posts about how you can unlock.

[zero1]

Unlocked from cingular and on tmobile chicago and surfing on the edge

[MarkARichards]

Can someone help me here. I called this number and asked for the unlock code. They tell me my phone is on the "blue side" (old AT&T contract) and that they can't provide the unlock code. Even though this is a new Cingular 8700c device, not an old AT&T one. Can anyone confirm if this is true or if they are talking rubbish? If rubbish, who can I contact to get them to do this?

Thanks.
I called the number today and they told me that they can not unlock ANY BlackBerry devices ????

I read that this is not true, how many time did you call before someone told you that you can or can not unlock ?

[ad65]

Careful, Sachin works for gsmlocker.

[your search ends here]

I CAN PROVIDE UNLOCKING CODES TO YOU. pm ME

[ScOObydoo]

I CAN PROVIDE UNLOCKING CODES TO YOU. pm ME

Filthy spammer... Same IP and email as "Sachin.g", just how stupid do you think we are here?

Take your spam somewhere else please.

[14pups]

Unlocked by Cingular and surfing on EDGE and GPRS in St. Louis on T-Mobile.

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[Blackberry fiend]

I'm confused. Who is "Adam", how do I reach him, how much does he charge and can he unlock the launch party 8700s?

What company is Sachin.g with, and what other names does he operate under so that I can be sure to avoid him.

Thanks.

[anthonymoody]

Adam is with Gsmphonesource.com (actually, he IS gsmphonesource.com). Good guy, trustworthy, not expensive IMO (like $45 to unlock an 8700 on ebay). BUT he cannot unlock the launch party 8700s, at least not the last time he tried for me...

TM

[darkhorse]

I was able to call the International Support line for Cingular and they said they could unlock my phone. While they were at it I asked them to unlock my old phone as well.

So a 10 min phone call = 8700c unlocked & 7290 unlocked

(note the unlock keys came a day or two later via email.)

[hbomb341]

I had the same thing. I am only a Cingular customer for 2 weeks and call had a 2 min phone call with International Support, sent a fax and had my 8700C unlocked the next day in my e-mail. It was FREE so a HUGE plus in my book.

[treaty1013]

So, I've been reading a lot tonight about unlocking... I'm neither a Cingular nor a T-Mobile customer yet.

If I want to get an 8700c on T-Mobile, do I just need to go to T-Mobile, get a basic phone (any special features?, one of the free ones?) and sign up for a contract with them, then get an unlock 8700c and move the SIM over? That simple?

[mike_187]

So, I've been reading a lot tonight about unlocking... I'm neither a Cingular nor a T-Mobile customer yet.

If I want to get an 8700c on T-Mobile, do I just need to go to T-Mobile, get a basic phone (any special features?, one of the free ones?) and sign up for a contract with them, then get an unlock 8700c and move the SIM over? That simple?

if you have an unlocked bb yes it is that simple(of course you have to activate bb data plan on t-mobile if you want the feature but that is no problem at all)

unlocked bb will work with any sim (gsm company) in the world.

i wouldnt go and buy a phone from t-mobile you can just buy the sim card and put it in your unlocked bb, call em up and activate the service you want.

[treaty1013]

i wouldnt go and buy a phone from t-mobile you can just buy the sim card and put it in your unlocked bb, call em up and activate the service you want.

Is that something T-Mobile will just sell me, or should I e-bay it?
Thanks!

[hbomb341]

T-Mobile will sell you just a SIM, but it will cost you as much as a phone, or get a free phone so no cost for the sim. I think it is nice to have an extra phone just in case you need it down the road.

[ttgangsta]

I called cingular today and they said they wern't sure if they could unlock BBs. The woman was very nice the phone call took like 5 minutes and she said she would submit a request for an unlock code, took me IMEI, and my account info, my email but said no gaurentees. What does that mean? Is that what you guys were told.

[hbomb341]

No, I was told no problem you will receave a code within the week. If you dont get it this week call again and try starting a new ticket.