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BBFun
12-08-2005, 11:18 AM
I tried to connect a Cingular 8770 to a 645 and had major issues. I'm running on BB OS 4.1.
1. Inconsistent connecting - After fumbling through the idrive console for what felt like forever, I finally got it to connect. If I turned the car off it (and removed the key), then started it up again, the bb would not reconnect. After working though a myriad of troubleshooting steps - rebooting the bb, turning on/off bluetooth, disconnecting the bb's bluetooth connection to the car and reconnecting, deleting the 8770 connection on the car and re-adding it, etc. it would work. But each time it would loose connection meant at least 20 minutes of fumbling around to get it reconnected. I still don't know after hours how to reconnect it consistently

2. The idrive would stay on (sometimes) even after the key is out of the ignition whether I was in the middle of a call or not.

3. THE MOST DAUNTING OF ALL: The idrive wheel, which normally you are not able to move more clicks than the number of menu options available now spins 360 degrees in either direction. Basically you can spin it as many times to the right or left as you want and the car is in a mute mode where no voice activated commands work, no radio, and since the idrive scroll wheel is broken, I can't switch any menu items!!!

I love technology. Aren't these things fun? (n)

MegaBit
12-08-2005, 12:09 PM
After you successfully pair it, you need to go into the Bluetooth setting on the 8700, select the entry for the BMW and make it a trusted device. That will let it automatically re-pair with the BMW each time they are in proximity.

Sorry to hear about the iDrive issues. Once you get it working, it should be very convenient.

BBFun
12-08-2005, 12:12 PM
Thanks MegaBit, but it was already set to be trusted. Thanks anyway. I'd appreciate if it you had any other ideas though.

sfla99
12-08-2005, 01:32 PM
I havent tried at 8700c since its in the mail too me, but I know the 7100g did not work on my 05 X5 with BMW assist, neither does my Treo650, so I am going to assume the 8700 wont either.

crawford
12-08-2005, 01:36 PM
I think that I'll be able to fix it. Just leave your car with me. Should take only a few months, give or take. :smile:

barjohn
12-08-2005, 01:55 PM
I don't know if BMW changed the unit they are using between the 2006 325i and the 645 you have but mine couldn't work more perfectly. Have you had BMW check to see if the unit in the car is defective?

MegaBit
12-08-2005, 03:00 PM
Thanks MegaBit, but it was already set to be trusted. Thanks anyway. I'd appreciate if it you had any other ideas though.

Some guys on e90post.com and bimmerfest.com have reported they needed a software update from the BMW center to get Bluetooth working correctly. I know that's not as easy as it sounds because it requires an appointment and several hours in most cases.

It might be worth a trip over to those forums to see if you can glean any further details.

I have an '06 330i and it works okay- the car was built in August and has the factory software.

tori888
12-09-2005, 02:39 PM
I havent tried at 8700c since its in the mail too me, but I know the 7100g did not work on my 05 X5 with BMW assist, neither does my Treo650, so I am going to assume the 8700 wont either.



my 8700c bluetooth works like a dream in my 05 X5 w/bmw assist. my treo 650 also worked except it wouldn't load the phone book.

gadgetman
12-09-2005, 03:27 PM
I had a defective bluetooth radio.
http://www.blackberryforums.com/showthread.php?t=21236

redx
12-09-2005, 07:44 PM
My understanding is that any BMW built after '04 already has the correct software to enable Bluetooth. The software upgrade that was mentioned earlier in this thread likely refers to '04 models. I personally have had no Bluetooth problems in either an '05 545 or an '06 x3 with either a 7100g or 8700c.

sfla99
12-09-2005, 08:33 PM
Well,

I can now confirm that the 8700C pairs and works flawlessly with my 05 BMW X5 with assist, pairs quickly, trusted works perfect, phonebook transfers, steering wheel allows full control of book and dialing action, the ONLY thing I am unsure of is the signar bars, for some reason I did not see the signal strenth in the dash, but that is nothing compared to how well the device works with the car.

Cheers!

ts937km
12-10-2005, 08:14 AM
I just read your message about phonebook transfers.... If that is correct my CIO is going to be one happy man!

So you can dial by voice against your blackberry's phonebook?

barjohn
12-10-2005, 08:17 AM
Yes, I can on mine!

ts937km
12-10-2005, 08:28 AM
I just did a google search and found your article! Thanks for the great writeup! I just emailed him a link to it!

He is going to be a very happy BMW 5 series owner!

Now if I can just figure out how to bluetooth enable my 2006 Honda Ridgeline with NAV. Can't believe Honda left it out.

Thanks again!

gold23
12-12-2005, 02:47 PM
Own an '05 530i. Been waiting for the perfect (or near perfect) pairing device from Blackberry. Is the 8700c the one?

Palm won't pair through Cingular (and they fall apart easily and don't afford the email capability/function I need), and the previous BB versions either didn't pair or simply paired only after the call was established.

My v551 and Razr work perfectly- if the 8700c is even remotely useful (voice and steering controls) it would be fabulous. If the address book transfers too? wow.

Problem is, BB website only references '06 models.

projectorkid
12-19-2005, 12:24 AM
my 8700c paired perfect with new 750Li, no phone book problems either.

gold23
12-21-2005, 01:35 PM
Paired my 8700c last night with my '05 530i. Perfect. Address book transfer, voice and steering wheel dial, signal strength indicator, etc. Crystal clear, too- better than my Moto v551.

seattlebbuser
12-21-2005, 03:08 PM
I tried to connect a Cingular 8770 to a 645 and had major issues. I'm running on BB OS 4.1.
1. Inconsistent connecting - After fumbling through the idrive console for what felt like forever, I finally got it to connect. If I turned the car off it (and removed the key), then started it up again, the bb would not reconnect. After working though a myriad of troubleshooting steps - rebooting the bb, turning on/off bluetooth, disconnecting the bb's bluetooth connection to the car and reconnecting, deleting the 8770 connection on the car and re-adding it, etc. it would work. But each time it would loose connection meant at least 20 minutes of fumbling around to get it reconnected. I still don't know after hours how to reconnect it consistently

2. The idrive would stay on (sometimes) even after the key is out of the ignition whether I was in the middle of a call or not.

3. THE MOST DAUNTING OF ALL: The idrive wheel, which normally you are not able to move more clicks than the number of menu options available now spins 360 degrees in either direction. Basically you can spin it as many times to the right or left as you want and the car is in a mute mode where no voice activated commands work, no radio, and since the idrive scroll wheel is broken, I can't switch any menu items!!!

I love technology. Aren't these things fun? (n)

Should of bought the Acura TL!!! I hate when new technology stops working. The 645 is a beautiful car.

duffin
01-13-2006, 02:34 AM
Well,

I can now confirm that the 8700C pairs and works flawlessly with my 05 BMW X5 with assist, pairs quickly, trusted works perfect, phonebook transfers, steering wheel allows full control of book and dialing action, the ONLY thing I am unsure of is the signar bars, for some reason I did not see the signal strenth in the dash, but that is nothing compared to how well the device works with the car.

Cheers!

I just bought a used 05 BMW X5 and I have a 7290. It pairs fine, but hangs up the system and phone trying to load a phonebook that won't load.

I have over 1000 contacts in Outlook synced to the Blackberry. How many do you have for your 8700c? If you have the same amount, looks like it is time to upgrade to a 8700c.

barjohn
01-13-2006, 09:55 AM
The 7290 does not have the ability at this time to upload the phone book, hence the problem. The 8700c does.

duffin
01-13-2006, 11:09 AM
The 7290 does not have the ability at this time to upload the phone book, hence the problem. The 8700c does.

This I already painfully know. What I am asking is there a phonebook upload problem having over 1,000+ contacts using the new 8700c? Looking for confirmation.

If I could get the BMW to skip trying to upload on the 7290, everything would work fine and I wouldn't have to upgrade.

Steven29
01-13-2006, 12:02 PM
That is not right. There is a Beta FW 4.2 for the 7290 and with this FW everything works fine with a BMW 540i 12/05.

The 7290 does not have the ability at this time to upload the phone book, hence the problem. The 8700c does.

barjohn
01-13-2006, 12:05 PM
Yes, but that FW is not yet available to the public, which is why I said "at this time". My statement stands.