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Rockefella
12-08-2005, 11:35 PM
I bought my 8700 strictly as a phone/PDA. In other words, I DID NOT get the data service from Cingular, hence, I have no email or websurfing abilities on my BB. That's because I already have unlimited Laptop Connect with Cingular which gives me EDGE browsing on my laptop everywhere I go.

So, is there anyone else out there besides me who uses their 8700 ONLY as a PDA/Phone? Some people might call me crazy, but I got my 8700 for cheap, around $250 (with rebates/credits) and I think it's way better than the Treo 650 as a PDA.

By the way, I LOVE my 8700. It's a great phone and a great PDA. The only complaint I have so far is that it drops calls more frequently than my dedicated phone did, even at full bars.

takeshi
12-09-2005, 12:28 AM
Meh. People like to parrot what they hear. If it's working for you then cool. Who cares what anyone else thinks?

gabeosx
12-09-2005, 08:26 AM
I am also one of the people who would call you crazy :)

NJBlackBerry
12-09-2005, 08:28 AM
I would not call you crazy at all. Not to your face, at least. You march to a different drummer. ;-)

xenopus
12-09-2005, 11:22 AM
I bought my 8700 strictly as a phone/PDA. In other words, I DID NOT get the data service from Cingular, hence, I have no email or websurfing abilities on my BB. That's because I already have unlimited Laptop Connect with Cingular which gives me EDGE browsing on my laptop everywhere I go.

So, is there anyone else out there besides me who uses their 8700 ONLY as a PDA/Phone? Some people might call me crazy, but I got my 8700 for cheap, around $250 (with rebates/credits) and I think it's way better than the Treo 650 as a PDA.

By the way, I LOVE my 8700. It's a great phone and a great PDA. The only complaint I have so far is that it drops calls more frequently than my dedicated phone did, even at full bars.

I have use non-data service with my 7290, and it was ok. Tried it before getting data service. Of course, support will tell you it won't work, and/or you can't email, but on the AT*T service, my + mywife's phone has the mmode.com email address, so you can forward email (allbeit with abbreviated message body). I could send outbound SMTP from my old phone, not sure if you can config the BB that way or not.

As it happened, I tried my wife's non-data SIM in my 7290 yesterday, and was able to receive email sent to <number>@<hidden> At least you can get some email so you know when you have to sit down at the computer :)

I can try her non-data AT&T SIM in my 8700c when I get it Monday and let you know if you are interested...

Piers

Rockefella
12-09-2005, 06:01 PM
Yeah, I would like to hear about it. Thanks!

Crazy 8700c User



I have use non-data service with my 7290, and it was ok. Tried it before getting data service. Of course, support will tell you it won't work, and/or you can't email, but on the AT*T service, my + mywife's phone has the mmode.com email address, so you can forward email (allbeit with abbreviated message body). I could send outbound SMTP from my old phone, not sure if you can config the BB that way or not.

As it happened, I tried my wife's non-data SIM in my 7290 yesterday, and was able to receive email sent to <number>@<hidden> At least you can get some email so you know when you have to sit down at the computer :)

I can try her non-data AT&T SIM in my 8700c when I get it Monday and let you know if you are interested...

Piers

Mikem42
12-09-2005, 06:34 PM
I've been using blackberries (7280 and 8700c) without data services from AT&T/Cingular. I really like it because instead of having to haul a palmpilot and and phone around, I have a single device that meets all my organization needs.

Sure, data services would be nice, but it's just not worth the extra money to me.

The number@<hidden> doesn't seem to work for cingular (it's actually an email to SMS gateway solution). If anyone happens to know of a gateway for cingular, please let us know :-)

xenopus
12-09-2005, 09:46 PM
...The number@<hidden> doesn't seem to work for cingular (it's actually an email to SMS gateway solution). If anyone happens to know of a gateway for cingular, please let us know :-)

Mine didn't come in today, KI expect Monday. I woudl guess the rather-useful email-to-SMS-gateway is an AT&T-ism, and just one more thing I would lose if I were to switch to Cingular. I don't mean to be biased against Cingular, but based on my experience... I want to say blue!

Piers

9balla4life
12-10-2005, 08:35 PM
IMHO it's a bit pointless to have a data phone like the 8700C without having the e-mail and data plans. It's like buying a brand new Caddy with navigational system and not using it. You paid for it. Just my opinion though bc 95% of all the wireless phones out there in the market has the PDA/Orginizing feature built in.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you choose to buy the 8700c without using the data???

VidGameKing
12-11-2005, 12:46 AM
I would not call you crazy at all. Not to your face, at least. You march to a different drummer. ;-)

I would call the drummer crazy. But not you.

mike_187
12-11-2005, 12:54 AM
and y not, bb is a great device. especially the 8700. prices for data plans are high, not everyone can afford it.ive used a 7290 with no data plan and would never go back to cellphone. i do alot of sms an its great for that. i like the calandar and the abilty to load apps and games. and you know what i can even send emails through sms when i need to. the only thing im not happy with is that i dont even get wap access but what can you do.

bb is a great device, and data is the way to go but the device is still awsome and usefull with no data plan. at leaast i think so.

Rockefella
12-11-2005, 03:06 AM
IMHO it's a bit pointless to have a data phone like the 8700C without having the e-mail and data plans. It's like buying a brand new Caddy with navigational system and not using it. You paid for it. Just my opinion though bc 95% of all the wireless phones out there in the market has the PDA/Orginizing feature built in.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you choose to buy the 8700c without using the data???


I got it because the phone PDA functions are extremely inconvenient to use without a qwerty keyboard. I'm a lawyer, and in my line of work, clients, judges and other attorneys won't wait while I push the 1 button three times to type a "c". I need a pda with extremely fast input possibilities.

I was looking at a variety of PDAs with qwerty keyboards. I actually have a Palm device. But I find the pen and touchscreen input method annoying and slow. Not to mention I invariably lose all my pens. I also used to have a blackberry, back when they first came out. As far as I'm concerned, the thumbwheel approach works best for me. Hence, the blackberry won out over all the other pdas out there. The Treo 650 was a close second, but I've heard enough about the instability of the OS to know that it won't work for me. I can't afford to have the PDA crash on me while a judge is glaring at me and asking me what date I'm available to attend a hearing.

As far as not having data services, it's expensive. I already have laptop connect for $59.99 a month and I've got a great IBM notebook I carry around with me everywhere I go. So the BB data plan would be a bit of a redundancy for me.

Does that answer your question ?

Rockefella
12-11-2005, 03:10 AM
I got it because the phone PDA functions are extremely inconvenient to use without a qwerty keyboard. I'm a lawyer, and in my line of work, clients, judges and other attorneys won't wait while I push the 1 button three times to type a "c". I need a pda with extremely fast input possibilities.

I was looking at a variety of PDAs with qwerty keyboards. I actually have a Palm device. But I find the pen and touchscreen input method annoying and slow. Not to mention I invariably lose all my pens. I also used to have a blackberry, back when they first came out. As far as I'm concerned, the thumbwheel approach works best for me. Hence, the blackberry won out over all the other pdas out there. The Treo 650 was a close second, but I've heard enough about the instability of the OS to know that it won't work for me. I can't afford to have the PDA crash on me while a judge is glaring at me and asking me what date I'm available to attend a hearing.

As far as not having data services, it's expensive. I already have laptop connect for $59.99 a month and I've got a great IBM notebook I carry around with me everywhere I go. So the BB data plan would be a bit of a redundancy for me.

Does that answer your question ?


There was supposed to be a smiley face at the end of my post. Sorry about that. Just in case my post sounded angry or sarcastic, which it isn't in any way. As I said, most people would call me crazy :-)

likefre
12-11-2005, 04:13 AM
I've been using blackberries (7280 and 8700c) without data services from AT&T/Cingular. I really like it because instead of having to haul a palmpilot and and phone around, I have a single device that meets all my organization needs.

Sure, data services would be nice, but it's just not worth the extra money to me.

The number@<hidden> doesn't seem to work for cingular (it's actually an email to SMS gateway solution). If anyone happens to know of a gateway for cingular, please let us know :-)
here you go
10digit@<hidden> (sms)
10digit@<hidden> (mms)

richard371
12-11-2005, 06:43 AM
I am a big sms fan and must have a phone with a qwerty keyboard. I also use instant messanger. There are not to many quadband gsm edge phones that have this. The only device which I do have is the Treo 650 which has worked well for me but to bulky and heavy. The 8700c could easily be a pocket phone but I am kinda scared I will get lots of dust under the screen. The CTO of my company swears that the windows 5.0 phones with Exchange 2003 (for push email) will bury the Blackberry but only time will tell. So far it meets my needs the best of any device.

corey@12mile
12-11-2005, 09:05 AM
So I bought this car, without an engine... has anyone else eveer bought a car without an engine for daily use?

bah.

Stinsonddog
12-11-2005, 09:58 AM
See my tips doc but you can use 10digit@<hidden> to cross over carriers.

here you go
10digit@<hidden> (sms)
10digit@<hidden> (mms)

likefre
12-11-2005, 11:06 AM
See my tips doc but you can use 10digit@<hidden> to cross over carriers.
thanks for the tip!

Aroc
12-12-2005, 07:38 AM
So I bought this car, without an engine... has anyone else eveer bought a car without an engine for daily use?

bah.

One could always sleep in said car. So it would have a purpose, much like a BB without a data plan. It's just wouldn't be as productive! (n)