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torifile
12-11-2005, 08:08 PM
I'm on the verge of ordering an 8700 from Amazon. I've got it in the cart along with my voice and data plans. I've got a bluetooth headset sitting on my desk. I think I'm ready for this, but I'm not sure. Any sage words from the veterans before I hit the "submit" button on my order? (Kinda like going on a camping trip with boy scouts: "Did you bring your wicking socks?")

I'm going to be using the BB as a replacement for my Axim and cell phone. Of course, email/messaging will be a big part of the equation, as well. I'm going to be covering the expenses, despite the fact that I'll use it for work purposes (sucks, but such is life). Oh, and I'm on Cingular (no T-mobile in NC, and I won't do non-GSM phones).

This is a big commitment - 2 year contract for both voice and data (right?). Any advice would be great. :)

toddvicid
12-11-2005, 08:40 PM
Not sure if you noticed, but Amazon says "Usually ships in 4 to 5 weeks". Some people on this board have indicated that 4-5 weeks seems to be a guess on Amazon's part.

torifile
12-11-2005, 08:48 PM
Not sure if you noticed, but Amazon says "Usually ships in 4 to 5 weeks". Some people on this board have indicated that 4-5 weeks seems to be a guess on Amazon's part.
Yeah. I noticed. :\ It surely is a guess on their part, but *I'm* guessing it's on the high side. ;)

But I've never had a hard time getting amazon to fulfill orders as quickly or quicker than they estimate and I figure if there's any indirect retailer who will get them, it'll be amazon. I'm not going to get gouged by cingular buying direct from them. There are absolutely no advantages to it, except getting it quicker. I'm not sure that's worth $150.

sfo
12-11-2005, 08:54 PM
Just be sure you're happy with the keyboard. It's really tight when you type.
Aside from that, you're getting a superb device.

torifile
12-11-2005, 09:00 PM
I've played around with it in the store and it seems even better than the one on the Treo 650 I had for a couple of months. :D My only real concern is that the BB is overkill for my needs. I'm not what you would call a "mobile professional", but a psychologist who gets a lot of email. And I like to be away from my office.

That reminds me, if I wanted to use the BB as my pager, would that be possible?

VidGameKing
12-11-2005, 09:05 PM
yeah the keypad seems to be a medium between the 7290 and the Treo 650. now, it's nowhere near as spacious as the Sidekick II or the BB 950, but it's not as cramped as the Treo 600, or Good G100. I like it, very minor issue in my opinion. Great phone! I just wish the display was "transflective" instead of passive backlight...

sfla99
12-11-2005, 09:31 PM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

I have moved over from a treo 650 and find I am loving this device so far. The keyboard is a bit stiff but I find the keys to be spaced out a bit better than the treo, so its just a matter of taste and getting used to it. One thing I am very happy with so far is the stability, voice quality and of coarse the push email.

torifile
12-11-2005, 09:47 PM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

I have moved over from a treo 650 and find I am loving this device so far. The keyboard is a bit stiff but I find the keys to be spaced out a bit better than the treo, so its just a matter of taste and getting used to it. One thing I am very happy with so far is the stability, voice quality and of coarse the push email.
Did you use chatteremail on the treo? It was pretty darned good if you had an IMAP account that supported IDLE connections. Personally, I'm looking forward to the stability and the security of it. I've always been wary of having confidential client info on my pda, but the fact of the matter is that I had to. No way around that. And I always lived in fear of losing my pda. Is it true that I can nuke my data remotely if it gets lost?

torifile
12-11-2005, 10:02 PM
Oh cripes! I've been reading up on all the faqs here and I just read one about BES and MDS. Am I going to have to pay another monthly fee to get BES (IOW, to use real internet)? What's the $44.99 plan that I have to get with cingular if it isn't internet access? (There was some mention of the faq being irrelevant after BB 4 and it was written over a year ago...)

gkolleng
12-11-2005, 10:12 PM
I was also a complete newbie till last week when I got my first BB (8700). It's pretty damn cool :)

BES has nothing to do with browsing the internet. It's a way to receive email on the BB. IOW, you can still browse the internet w/o BES, and yes, the $44.99 unlimited data plan from Cingular will fully allow you to browse the internet.

Skim the FAQ again, most questions are regarding how to receive mail on the BB (BES, BIS, etc).

sfla99
12-11-2005, 10:15 PM
The 44.99 is the unlimited data plan which is highly suggested if you plan to use this device in any serious capacity. One thing to note, the Treo unlimited dataplan is 39.99 so its only 5 dollars more =)

I never bothered with chatter because, the Treo is so unstable and crashes constantly and chatter is a mixed bag, some have good results, others do not. Plus it drains the battery since it holds an idle sync.

The BB on the other hand works flawlessly, no crashes, no constant soft resets, none of the overloads where it takes 20+ secs to get a response from the device if you push menu keys to fast.

There is a give and take when switching, understand the BB does not have everything under the sun like a Treo, but what it sets out to, it does extremely well.

Cheers!

torifile
12-11-2005, 10:18 PM
I was also a complete newbie till last week when I got my first BB (8700). It's pretty damn cool :)

BES has nothing to do with browsing the internet. It's a way to receive email on the BB. IOW, you can still browse the internet w/o BES, and yes, the $44.99 unlimited data plan from Cingular will fully allow you to browse the internet.

Skim the FAQ again, most questions are regarding how to receive mail on the BB (BES, BIS, etc).
Thanks. That's sort of a relief. I guess I really need to delve into this stuff. It's been a VERY long time since I've gotten into something tech related that I have no familiarity with.

My understanding about the email thing was that I'd get a blackberry.net email address with the BIS I get with cingular. I would be able to redirect my email to that address and get it automatically. I could, if I wanted, pay to have hosting on a BES, but that's not required. If I do, will I be slapped with fees by cingular?

bbmember
12-11-2005, 10:19 PM
Oh cripes! I've been reading up on all the faqs here and I just read one about BES and MDS. Am I going to have to pay another monthly fee to get BES (IOW, to use real internet)? What's the $44.99 plan that I have to get with cingular if it isn't internet access? (There was some mention of the faq being irrelevant after BB 4 and it was written over a year ago...)

Sure you will have complete HTML browsing experience without BES. You will be using the Blackberry Internet Browser. The advantage of a BES is that it works well with your corporate email acccount like Exchange, Domino and Groupwise. It provides complete wireless sync with email, calender, notes etc. However, you should be able to utilize push from accounts like Yahoo, Google etc using the 45 dollar account. With the new BIS which T-Mobile has been using you can have wireless sync feature with Yahoo (a BES like experience). I am sure Cingular will be launching this soon (Barjohn and others have confirmed this). All in all you should be able to do personal email, IM (using 3rd party), browsing, and other data applications etc using this plan. I bet you will not be dissapointed by making this move like how we all 'Crackberry' addicts have found out ;-)

bbmember
12-11-2005, 10:22 PM
Thanks. That's sort of a relief. I guess I really need to delve into this stuff. It's been a VERY long time since I've gotten into something tech related that I have no familiarity with.

My understanding about the email thing was that I'd get a blackberry.net email address with the BIS I get with cingular. I would be able to redirect my email to that address and get it automatically. I could, if I wanted, pay to have hosting on a BES, but that's not required. If I do, will I be slapped with fees by cingular?

Yes you will be using a blackberry.net email. However, I think with the new BIS I think you don't even have to do this and can directly use your yahoo address etc. You can pay for hosting anytime, but I don't think it will be needed. However, if you do choose to then there will be no additional charges from Cingular.

torifile
12-11-2005, 10:28 PM
Sweet. I'm a Mac user, so having integration with a web-client for calendars, etc. will be nice, if it comes to fruition. I know about the pocketmac blackberry solution, but I've had experience with their pocketpc software and it was less than stellar, so I'd rather avoid it. But nothing I'm hearing is making me wary of doing this. :) I may go by the cingular store tomorrow morning and see if I can convince them they want to give me a break on the price.... Not likely but it's worth a shot.....