Nextel and 8700?? When??

[go2duke]

I see the new 7100i and the 8700c... I also see plenty of "bug" traffic in this forum about the 7100i. I am working with my 7520 and don't want to drop down just because my little "pokey" antenna is killing me when my fat butt sits in the car...

Anyway, want to start a thread for tracking the progress of an every slow Nextel (with or without Sprint.. since they are not a blackberry force).

-G2D

[SmurfBerry]

I am quite happy with my 7520. To tell you the honest truth I really dont have significant service issues unlike that of any other carrier. It isn't as flashy as the 7100 and the 8700, but give it time.

[europamo]

I see the new 7100i and the 8700c... I also see plenty of "bug" traffic in this forum about the 7100i. I am working with my 7520 and don't want to drop down just because my little "pokey" antenna is killing me when my fat butt sits in the car...

Anyway, want to start a thread for tracking the progress of an every slow Nextel (with or without Sprint.. since they are not a blackberry force).

-G2D

Dont get discouraged, take one for a test drive and return it after a week if it is not your thing, but I am sure you will like it. Bugs, there a numerous bugs with any device. Nextel, I have never had better service in the USA with any company.
Happy New Year

[dc/dc]

I doubt you will ever see an iDen 8700. Sprint is very intent on removing the iDen network from service as soon as they legally can.

[southwestcomm]

Sprint is not removing the iDEN network. It is fully supported through 2010. Don't make statements that are completely false.
Realistically the 8700 will be on the CDMA network to take advantage of the EVDO network.

[dc/dc]

Don't make statements that are completely false.

Read carefully before getting into someone's ass about their post champ.

Your statement:
It is fully supported through 2010.

Agrees with my statement:
as soon as they legally can.

[MasterxAce]

I doubt you will ever see an iDen 8700. Sprint is very intent on removing the iDen network from service as soon as they legally can.
They are changing everything over to the CDMA format like sprint...

[europamo]

Sprint is selling iDEN back to the Federal Govt for a sizeable amount. Eventually us Nextel customers will be using Sprint's network

[Nextel User]

hope my contract expires before then

[europamo]

hope my contract expires before then
I made this my last contract this summer, unfortunately I will be paying them to get out of it, as I will probably be moving back to Europe this coming year.

[Nextel User]

i am on a gov. account type. so i dont pay for early termination fees.

[SmurfBerry]

I am on a Gov't account and the taxpayers pay for my termination fee.

[Postalrecon]

So what happens to the walkie talkie service by the time Iden dissappears?

[dc/dc]

So what happens to the walkie talkie service by the time Iden dissappears?

You use Sprint ReadyLink. Hopefully it will be on par with DirectConnect by the time iDen is removed from service.

[netwiz01]

I am quite happy with my 7520. To tell you the honest truth I really dont have significant service issues unlike that of any other carrier. It isn't as flashy as the 7100 and the 8700, but give it time.

I agree the 7520 is solid, not many issues and lost of software to upload to the device that is not compatible with 7100. Although the others are faster and have more RAM etc... The 7520 has more software that is handy to me....ie TeleNav, 411, BBToday, BBLight and a few others.

[Tritan]

Any more news on this yet?

[fliedlice]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7100i/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/103)

I would bet money on the fact that it will be more than a year before we are an 8700 for Nextel. I'm actually considering the jump to sprint for the blade.....I'm damn near tired of my blackberry and Nextel......more Nextel than my blackberry

[Maslows]

I know I will be buying a bb next month when i get my deposit back next month from Nextel. I have already prepard to get the 7100i, I bought a Jabra BT500, I ordered a high capicity battery & door, I downloaded all the appropriate applications & themes, & I am going to order the fortte flip down croc styled case with my name embroided in it this weekend. But I spoke to someone and they mentioned something about Nextel having a 8700 in Q2 of 2006 which i figure is next month. So should I get it or is the 8700 just a rumor?

[NJBlackBerry]

I'd suspect it is a rumor, based solely on the fact that Nextel came out with a 7100 almost one year after the GSM models...

[photographos]

The IDEN network is at stands is at near max capacity. All new customers are being pushed to join the CDMA side. If it were me I would be okay with it anyways. My nextel service is getting alot of "SYSTEM BUSY TRY AGAIN LATER" messages lately. On the other hand I can honestly say that on my Sprint phone I have not seen it come yet in the 2 months that I have had the phone.

[HIH]

CDMA's biggest depresser is the dirty license fee each carrier and manufacturer has to pay Qualcomm, not mentioning its capacity constrain. 2 carriers in the States are CDMA-based, while the rest are or going to be GSM/UMTS platform. Nextel is one of the few TDMA left-over -- where is the economy of scale for the manufacturers?

UMTS is constrained by EXPENSIVE license fee; hence, the carriers are put choken; that's why there came the 1X, EVDO, EVDV, 2X, ... --- if UMTS performs as planned, you won't have these workarounds.

WiMAX is something we all need to pay attention. Looks like this is merely a wireless service; not really, what do you think the recent take off of Skype (Voice over IP). If you are always "on line", why can't someone create a handset to incorporate that VOIP function to let you talk to the whole world at merely $24.99/month? Want to see some trace of evidence? Check out here: http://www.wirelesswatch.jp/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1749. According the industry, the mobile WiMAX equipment will be available in 2007 (http://www.unwired.com.au/about/companyannouncements/WiMAX_Update_Unwired.pdf?PHPSESSID=fe387e5b84b5bf3f41512fbf6b03f235).


A good article for bath-room readers: http://www.wimaxforum.org/news/events/wimax_day_agenda/Shakouri_Capitalizing_on_the_WiMAX_Market_Opportunity.pdf.

Check out a broader forum here:
http://shop.telecoms.com/marlin/30000000861/OPTION_VIEW/marketingid/20001280130/productid/20001280131/optionid/20001280133?proceed=true&MarEntityId=1140702406331&entHash=1027138a54f

[jdvegas]

Talked to a Sprint rep at a trade show here in Vegas yesterday about a Nextel 8700, and he told me to look for for a Nextel 8700 in the last quarter of 2006. I asked him if it was going to be using IDEN or CDMA and he said it would be a hybrid that links the two.

Hope this is helpful.

[MrKyoo]

Talked to a Sprint rep at a trade show here in Vegas yesterday about a Nextel 8700, and he told me to look for for a Nextel 8700 in the last quarter of 2006. I asked him if it was going to be using IDEN or CDMA and he said it would be a hybrid that links the two.

Hope this is helpful.
I so want to believe this but something is telling me not to get my hopes up.

-MrKyoo

[Stress]

sometimes I just log on and laugh @<hidden> the amount of baseless BS that get's posted. lol.

[dc/dc]

Talked to a Sprint rep at a trade show here in Vegas yesterday about a Nextel 8700, and he told me to look for for a Nextel 8700 in the last quarter of 2006. I asked him if it was going to be using IDEN or CDMA and he said it would be a hybrid that links the two.

Hope this is helpful.

Wow. Your first post. Everyone is going to believe you,

[southwestcomm]

There are no iDEN/CDMA BB plans. An 8700 will be on CDMA.

[dc/dc]

There are no iDEN/CDMA BB plans. An 8700 will be on CDMA.

Most people are in agreement with that.

[jdvegas]

I shared the info I got from Sprint at the trade show dc/dc. It makes no difference to me if you belive it or not. The section is called Rumor Mill. I have better things to do with my time than post 811 items.

[NJBlackBerry]

Don't be snotty. People are allowed to post their opinions here, whether you like it or not.

[Postalrecon]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7520/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/103)

How about we close thread before it turns into a kiddie fight, if you want an 8700 go GSM, that's the only way right now.

[southwestcomm]

Can't comment on what jdvegas heard. I do know my RIM CSM told our dealership at training that no new iDEN BB were on the near horizon only a CDMA 7100 series - next month or so - and the 8700 - hopefully before year's end but probably Q1 next year.

[ProWithAFoDo]

I like my 7520 and i would probably get the 8700. Either way, Nextel is the best carrier around.

[Postalrecon]

I like my 7520 and i would probably get the 8700. Either way, Nextel is the best carrier around.

i dont think its the best, but we definetly get what we pay for. especially with telenav

[dc/dc]

I like my 7520 and i would probably get the 8700. Either way, Nextel is the best carrier around.

For you. Not necessarily for anyone else.

Also, please remember that Nextel no longer exists. The company is Sprint Nextel, with Sprint being used as the marketing name.

[Postalrecon]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7520/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/103)

Then why are there store that sell nextel only still? It doesn't matter, I'm not ever gonna call them sprint, or sprint nextel, I'm a nextel customer, its as simple as that. And by the way nextel still exists, at least as far as a customer service standpoint...nextel and sprint customer service have nothing to do with each other. You still can't go from sprint to nextel or vice versa without paying the early termination fees on either end

[WMedley]

I know that sprint has announced a dual mode cdma/iden device slated for October, but the rumor is that it is not a BB device. This does still give us some sort of hope for a dual mode 8700 device, but i don't know that i am gonna hold my breath on it. I love my nextel 7520, and would love to go with an 8700 but i don't think i would want to give up my nextel service for one. Of course, an 8700 CDMA edge network phone with IDEN DC would be awesome

[KonTiki]

Screw edge, a CDMA EVDO, now you are talking.

[southwestcomm]

CDMA doesn't have EDGE - EVDO. If you think iDEN Blackberry units are BIG now just think how big an iDEN/CDMA device would be.....

[donthateme13]

i dont care how big the 7520 i love how sturdy it feels in my hand. the 7520 is a MACHINE and its takes a beating like you wouldnt believe!

[ndirish2001]

My ideal device would be a Sprint CDMA 8700 (in black, not in Cingular's ugly gray/silver), with EDGE and/or GPRS backup (for international, not domestic, roaming).

Is that too much to ask? I think that if Sprint came out with such a device, it would finally have an attractive option for professionals who need a Blackberry, but who also need the ability to use it internationally. Right now that potentially lucrative market is cornered by Cingular and T-Mobile, and I can't imagine that Sprint and VZW wouldn't want a piece of it.

[southwestcomm]

The honest truth is less than 1% of the professional world requires international data service. If I need an international BB I simply call Sprint-Nextel and rent one for the trip.
Packing a CDMA and GSMish chipset in one device isn't realistic either.

[aziomek]

CDMA Sprint BB 8700 Q2 of 2006...

Done

[forevergreen]

You're saying it won't have nextel 2-way?

[dc/dc]

You're saying it won't have nextel 2-way?

NO.

[xxhiyanxx]

CDMA Sprint BB 8700 Q2 of 2006...

Done

aren't we in Q2 of 2006?

Done

[Nextel User]

yes we are.....so be patient

[aziomek]

yes we are.....so be patient


DONE....lol

at just reading this, to the people who have EVP accounts (Government) if its IL and the phone is under your name with a government discount you have an early term fee...the USPS wass one of the few that didnt and now thats gone....FYI

Not so Big and badass now are ya? Wasting our tax money:-o

[southwestcomm]

No 8700 for CDMA side of Sprint this Q.

[xxhiyanxx]

you forgot to say DONE

[ndirish2001]

No 8700 for CDMA side of Sprint this Q.

Any idea of if/when there will a 8700 CDMA on Sprint?

[bbjames]

If you look at the bb release trends in the past by the major carriers in the past, it will reveal to you that Verizon and Sprint/Nextel eventually release the larger form factor devices. It would be foolish for these carriers not to carry the 8700 eventually. That is the hottest product in the market. I imagine it is only a matter of time. Noting that Cingular has always carried first carried the new releases and then followed by the other US carriers, it would be safe to assume that 8700 is on the way...the carriers obviously are probably aware by that the demand for 8700 on a CDMA network is growing. My best guess is that there would be CDMA 8700 release by Verizon and then by Sprint in late Q2 or early Q3. RIM is currently in Q1...their 4th quarter ended in March some time.

Sorry about all the verbal barf!:bb: :bb:

[phatpkts]

With all the talk about a hybrid 8700 for Sprint/Nextel or just an IDEN and A CDMA version...I am wondering what the biggest differences are in the 7520 and the 8700? I looked at the "technical info", but that means very little to me. What are your perceptions of the greatest benefits of an upgrade? I love my 7520...was not thrilled about the 7100i and don't want to make a bad investment...thanks!

[strobate]

It looks better. Probably thinner. Has the send and end and soft key buttons. Screen. Processor.

[Kablooey]

I think that one thing to keep in mind is that until Sprint/Nextel fully implements their next generation network based on the EV-DO rev A protocol, they are committed to supporting two networks and product lines. Therefore, keep in mind the CDMA 8700 being released is the replacement for the 7250 Sprint device, not the 7520. Contrary to the recent posts about the 8702, I have not been able to get any tangible evidence that there is a replacement for the 7520 in the near future. According to a senior Sprint/Nextel rep I spoke to, there is nothing on the iDen BlackBerry slate for 2006, but that doesn't mean there won't be something ever. Until Sprint/Nextel can employ the EV-DO PTT that is compatible with the iDen PTT I can guarantee you that they will not be moving away from that cash cow which as previously stated will be viable through 2010.

[mike_187]

never will see this device, rim will not make any more iden devices.

[Infinyte8]

never will see this device, rim will not make any more iden devices.

what about this from Nextel.com?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2/Infinyte8/nextel8700.gif

[strobate]

Rumors (and I stress that) of a November drop date for the 87xx on Nextel.

[ABuehrlen]

There are no iDEN/CDMA BB plans. An 8700 will be on CDMA.

There dont have to be any plans yet the dual technology isnt there yet. when the dual phones come out plans will be unveiled with them. Cingular did the same when they switched from tdma to gsm. They released th nokia 6340i and had dual plans so people could benefit from both networks. Sprint will do the same. They will still bring out lots of new phones for the iden network til its gone because they want to keep the customer base. thats the reason for buying them in the firts place. the 8700 will be either iden or dual. but there will be an 8700 for iden.

[ABuehrlen]

never will see this device, rim will not make any more iden devices.

It WILL happen. Sprint is committed to the iden customer base they will not risk losing it by not releasing new devices for it. rim is a huge with nextel and will continue as well. Now whether the 8700 is totally iden or dual iden/cdma im not sure. But there will be more rim iden devices. count on that.

DONE..

[phatpkts]

It WILL happen. Sprint is committed to the iden customer base they will not risk losing it by not releasing new devices for it. rim is a huge with nextel and will continue as well. Now whether the 8700 is totally iden or dual iden/cdma im not sure. But there will be more rim iden devices. count on that.

DONE..
How do you know? I am extremely interested in this model. Love my 7520, but am dying for the 8700

[ABuehrlen]

How do you know? I am extremely interested in this model. Love my 7520, but am dying for the 8700


Ive been selling phones for multiple carriers for quite a while and know the industry well enough to know how each carrier works. Granted im not currently selling phnes but I do still research the carriers. I know that sprint wont just dump iden even though it legally can in 2010. they wont make anyone switch til almost evryone has switched on their own. then once theres only a few left they'll force them to either switch or let them out of their contract. similar to the way amps and tdma were phased out at cingular And trust me ready link will be going away. it stinks and is no where near the quality of direct connect. They will develop something new once they upgrade there technology. they know the only way to keep the nextel customer base happy is to support it with new technology and most people will be enticed to switch over by getting a dual iden/cdma blackberry device this will give sprint what it wants. people will keep the features theyve come to love from both carriers while people will be dropping off the iden network so to speak. Im dying to get my hands on an 8700 too. I love everything about them.

[Jack T. Chance]

never will see this device, rim will not make any more iden devices.Wow, that's a really bold statement, with absolutely NO information provided to back it up! (n)

So, mike_187, why don't you tell us who you are and what exactly your job is at RIM? :idea:

What's that? You say you DON'T work for RIM? :?

Well then, in the immortal words of The Rock...
"KNOW YOUR ROLE AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!" :-P

;-)

[strobate]

Any Nextelian has heard all the Moto won't make another iDEN device, RIM won'tm ake another iDEN device, Sprint Nextel is taking down cell sites for Nextel, etc., and knows it's bunk.