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ahhpff
05-22-2006, 09:41 AM
I found a 8700R and i have a 7290, if i put my Sim card into the 8700 will it work perfectly fine such as the phone and data or would i have to call in and change it over the imei and the pin because i really dont want to do that since i found it!


Thanks

SamBerry
05-22-2006, 09:48 AM
I strongly encourage you to return the 8700R to the owner.

d_fisher
05-22-2006, 10:09 AM
I strongly encourage you to return the 8700R to the owner.I second that.

Pizzle
05-22-2006, 12:05 PM
I second that.


If an "I third that" is appropriate here, consider me "that guy".

paulbblc
05-22-2006, 12:10 PM
If you cant find the owner call Rogers and report to them that you found it and give them the PIN and IMEI. They'll track down the person. They won't give you any of their info, hopefully, however you could bring the handheld into a store and they'll get it back to the person.

KonTiki
05-22-2006, 01:03 PM
What I cant understand is why would anyone come into this forum and ask such a question. In the first place if you own a Blackberry you know how expensive they are, and how indispensable they become to you, so the first thing I would think is this, if it had happened to me what would I want or hope for. I would hope someone returned it. In the second place even if you dont own one and you are not a member of the forum a few minutes of searching for found a BB would have given the person the forums sentiment on such issues. So to come here and expect other answers or pray tell help in getting around how to use it from other members is ludricous at best.

ahhpff I am sorry if this sounds like dumping on you or bashing but you could not or should not expect anything different even if this was not a Blackberry forum, now do the right thing and return it so that it can be returned to its rightful owner, I am sure that they will be grateful, and hopefully some day if this were to happen to you someone would do the right thing for you as well, remember the movie PAY IT FORWARD, this place would certainly be a whole better place if we all did a bit of that.

Aroc
05-22-2006, 02:23 PM
Found / stole ... same thing.

arche3
05-22-2006, 02:31 PM
without any moral or ethical conclusions on my part... :)

If you switch sim cards the 8700 will work. assuming it is the same carrier as you r currently on with the 7290. phone and sms should be fine. but the email function would not work. You need to change the pin at the BIS. when I got a new berry I didnt need to change the imei number. I believe the PIN is all that it really needs. The second time I switched berries I did change PIN and IMEI on the BIS. that was fine as well.

Good luck.

R

I found a 8700R and i have a 7290, if i put my Sim card into the 8700 will it work perfectly fine such as the phone and data or would i have to call in and change it over the imei and the pin because i really dont want to do that since i found it!


Thanks

finch
05-22-2006, 02:39 PM
I love the I found a BB threads, should be referred to as how can I go about using this BB without getting caught? I only hope the PIN/IMEI has been reported lost/stolen, better yet an IT Policy. Don't be a creep and return it to it's rightful owner you would expect the same.
I found a 8700R and i have a 7290, if i put my Sim card into the 8700 will it work perfectly fine such as the phone and data or would i have to call in and change it over the imei and the pin because i really dont want to do that since i found it!


Thanks

cwosigns
05-22-2006, 02:47 PM
Unbelievable. God forbid you should ever find a kid.

finch
05-29-2006, 10:31 AM
http://www.blackberryforums.com/showthread.php?t=32247
i got a summer position at Rim just curious what blackberry's we are given when we start also what kind of corporate rate plan do we get, i know we have to pay for it but just curious what exact do we get
From your post not to long ago, real classy...

gadgetfanatic
05-29-2006, 10:39 AM
Where did you "find" it? In someone's gym bag!!

cooperpwc
05-29-2006, 10:55 AM
:razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:
(Each being worth a thousand words.)

chirayu
05-29-2006, 01:15 PM
Wirelessly posted (Blackberry 8700c: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Chanes are the pathetic soul is no longer on these forums.

And if you are, return it to the rightful owner and do the right thing

earth
05-29-2006, 01:46 PM
put in your SIM card and youre good to go :)

So long as it's not my 8700r I don't care who's you have, just make sure you keep it hidden.

KonTiki
05-29-2006, 01:53 PM
I would only hope it is yours to see how you would answer him then and how youd feel if someone else answered him just the way you did. The right thng is the right thing, regardless of whose it is. What is even better is finch's post above which leads you to speculate where it was found after all.

put in your SIM card and youre good to go :)

So long as it's not my 8700r I don't care who's you have, just make sure you keep it hidden.

AlbertoM
05-29-2006, 01:55 PM
put in your SIM card and youre good to go :)

So long as it's not my 8700r I don't care who's you have, just make sure you keep it hidden.

Amazing. An even bigger d***head. Kon Tiki is right, and finch's theory is even more likely. How ofter do we read about "finding" something - my other favorite is "my friend changed the password and forgot it"...

I don't care whose it is as long as it itsn't mine...but then what happens when it is? Jerk....

...and BTW, arche3, one can't live without reaching ethical and moral conclusions....

finch
05-29-2006, 02:15 PM
Guys enough name calling, keep it on topic...

earth
05-29-2006, 02:19 PM
Amazing. An even bigger d***head. Kon Tiki is right, and finch's theory is even more likely. How ofter do we read about "finding" something - my other favorite is "my friend changed the password and forgot it"...

I don't care whose it is as long as it itsn't mine...but then what happens when it is? Jerk....

...and BTW, arche3, one can't live without reaching ethical and moral conclusions....

1. it was a joke, god be blessed the interweb and people's inability to sense sarcasm in typed words.

2. I don't pay for my bberry, it's on a corporate plan.

3. even if it's a stolen bberry the guy he stole it from didn't lock it up in a situation where he obviously should have locked it up.

Dude may be morally deplorable for stealing a bberry, but it doesn't excuse the guy that was dumb enough to not keep a 500$ peice of hardware under lock and key.

4. let me restress #1. OKTHXGBYE.

shodan
05-29-2006, 03:50 PM
OK... since we are on the topic of "losing" it, and I got my first BB 1 month ago, how can I lock it so if I ever "lose" it, it will be useless for the person who "finds" it? Passwords, entering the owners name, anything I can do to keep it safe?

Thanks.

P.S. totally return it... Karma hasn't worked for me yet (I brought back wallets w/ cash and ccs, and at least 2 phones in my life, and the one time I did lose a phone, they answered it when I called it but didn't return it)

EricaJ1074
05-29-2006, 03:57 PM
You can use Password Keeper and set a password. That way, whoever finds your BB will have to enter the password 10 times incorrectly in order to wipe itr.

cooperpwc
05-29-2006, 04:17 PM
I don't think that Password Keeper is the right answer. Go To Option, Security Option, General Settings and set the Security Timeout. Even the maximum one hour will do the trick with minimum inconvenience to you.

KonTiki
05-29-2006, 08:01 PM
And the more obvious answers is to call your provider and report it stolen or lost, once you do if anyone tries to activate it your provider should be able to accertain it is a "hot" unit and prevent its activation. If you are on a BES you can also report it to them and they can lock it from there.

jkoons
05-29-2006, 09:00 PM
I had a program for my Treo that allowed me to send a text message to my phone with certian text and it would wipe it out / lock it out once received. Is this available for the BB?

KonTiki
05-29-2006, 09:16 PM
Not that I am aware off but what is the name of the program, maybe if enough people see it and write the manufacturer it might be made available for the BB.

arche3
05-29-2006, 09:27 PM
Amazing. An even bigger d***head. Kon Tiki is right, and finch's theory is even more likely. How ofter do we read about "finding" something - my other favorite is "my friend changed the password and forgot it"...

I don't care whose it is as long as it itsn't mine...but then what happens when it is? Jerk....

...and BTW, arche3, one can't live without reaching ethical and moral conclusions....

last time i checked this was the blackberry forum. the guy asked a technical question. I simply found it amusing that everyone was implying that he stole it. he said he found it, and was seeing if it could be made to work. I answered the question.

Barrikin
05-29-2006, 09:40 PM
i am just wondering i got 2 7100vs and i was wondering when i click on enterpirse activation it says
email:
password:

then pin :

my pin says ffffffff

my old blackberry pin was something like this
NOT Pin: 3002122B

do you still need a pin to activate the bb plan or if there isnt one am i able to get one

Can anyone help?
I found a 8700R and i have a 7290, if i put my Sim card into the 8700 will it work perfectly fine such as the phone and data or would i have to call in and change it over the imei and the pin because i really dont want to do that since i found it!


Thanks

I have the 7100 v and the 7100R and i have V 4.0.0168 installed, on the 7100v and i have no problems, but i installed the latest version v4.0.0.219 on the 7100r and it rebooted every hour, or when i had a call longer then 30 min, i'm not sure why but i put the v 4.0.0.168 on the 7100 R and i now have no problems with rebooting, it may reboot once and awhile but not every day, and i am able to talk hours on it without any problems Woah,
2 7100V's
1 7100R
1 7290?
and now a 8700R
and a job at RIM
Man you have good luck, Next blackberry you :wink:"find":wink: can i have it?

ahhpff
05-29-2006, 10:59 PM
for an update, my gf called rogers and asked who it belonged too but they were not able to tell her anything since of the PRIVACY ACT... and was told to take it into a rogers location.

also i just asked a question, nor did i steal this device from someone.. im not a thief

just want to clear that up

AlbertoM
05-29-2006, 11:05 PM
for an update, my gf called rogers and asked who it belonged too but they were not able to tell her anything since of the PRIVACY ACT... and was told to take it into a rogers location.

also i just asked a question, nor did i steal this device from someone.. im not a thief

just want to clear that up

So, take it to a Rogers place. Or call several people from the address list at random. Finding the owner should take less than 30 minutes tops, assuming that you want to find the owner.

Barrikin
05-30-2006, 02:21 AM
for an update, my gf called rogers and asked who it belonged too but they were not able to tell her anything since of the PRIVACY ACT... and was told to take it into a rogers location.

also i just asked a question, nor did i steal this device from someone.. im not a thief

just want to clear that up

I think the main reason everyone came down so hard on you is becuase you were asking a question if you could use it with your sim card..

If it was my blackberry and you returned it, I still wouln't be too pleased if you used it for a few hours or days..

Gmouth
05-30-2006, 10:01 AM
You can wipe a blackberry if your on a bes. Easy enough.

finch
05-30-2006, 10:17 AM
Wrong! Drop it off at at a Rogers store and they will track the user by IMEI.
for an update, my gf called rogers and asked who it belonged too but they were not able to tell her anything since of the PRIVACY ACT... and was told to take it into a rogers location.

also i just asked a question, nor did i steal this device from someone.. im not a thief

just want to clear that up

radimus
05-30-2006, 10:22 AM
OK... since we are on the topic of "losing" it, and I got my first BB 1 month ago, how can I lock it so if I ever "lose" it, it will be useless for the person who "finds" it? Passwords, entering the owners name, anything I can do to keep it safe?

On the Home screen go to Options and then Security. If you have a newer BB then Security may be under Advanced Options or something like that. Change the Password option to Enabled and set a good password. Not something obvious like your phone number or other personal info. Next go down to the "Security Timeout" option and set this to something reasonable. Not too short or it will be a pain, but too long and it's next to useless. After that go down to "Lock Handheld Upon Holstering" option and set this to "Yes", which will make the BB lock itself whenever it's slid into a holster or pouch that has the magnet installed for the sleep mode.

That should cover things pretty well. If it falls out of your holster then it will come out locked. If you leave it sitting somewhere it will lock itself after the time set has passed and there has been no use.

AlbertoM
05-30-2006, 11:52 AM
1. it was a joke, god be blessed the interweb and people's inability to sense sarcasm in typed words.

2. I don't pay for my bberry, it's on a corporate plan.

3. even if it's a stolen bberry the guy he stole it from didn't lock it up in a situation where he obviously should have locked it up.

Dude may be morally deplorable for stealing a bberry, but it doesn't excuse the guy that was dumb enough to not keep a 500$ peice of hardware under lock and key.

4. let me restress #1. OKTHXGBYE.

Good to hear - but I must disagree - it is never the victim's fault. Sure he should have locked it up, and sure he was dumb enough not to secure a $500 device - but it was the sleazebag who stole it fault. Not the victims. It is that slippery slope of justifiable actions that degrades us all.

teamcrn
05-30-2006, 12:09 PM
Ok i know its bad if someone stole the unit or even found it... but isnt that what insurance is for.. give me a break.. things happen... climb off your mighty high horse... everyone here breaks the law or does things there not suppose to...

earth
05-30-2006, 12:31 PM
Good to hear - but I must disagree - it is never the victim's fault. Sure he should have locked it up, and sure he was dumb enough not to secure a $500 device - but it was the sleazebag who stole it fault. Not the victims. It is that slippery slope of justifiable actions that degrades us all.

What can I say? I'm a libertarian. haHA

r0guenj
05-30-2006, 01:13 PM
reporting it lost or stolen doesn't do anything on a gsm carrier. here in the states, gsm carriers do not maintain a list of stolen/lost imei's (outside the us is different). the only carriers that maintain this are iden(i think) and cdma carriers that block esn's.

maybe rim will permaban a pin, but that might be the extent of it.

AlbertoM
05-30-2006, 01:24 PM
What can I say? I'm a libertarian. haHA
:smile:

AlbertoM
05-30-2006, 01:26 PM
Ok i know its bad if someone stole the unit or even found it... but isnt that what insurance is for.. give me a break.. things happen... climb off your mighty high horse... everyone here breaks the law or does things there not suppose to...
Insurance? Pray tell...
I enjoy few things more than higher insurance premiums on anything, because "that's what it's for". As to a high horse, proud to be there...as to breaking the law, kindly speak for yourself.....

Gmouth
05-30-2006, 02:30 PM
somebody pass the xanax around

Wiseass
05-30-2006, 03:57 PM
Maybe it's just me, but we "lost" a unit in the office (I say lost because it was found eventually after we had cancelled it), and we contacted Cingular and they actually blocked the PIN # on the device. Found that out only after I had found the device, went to re-register it and had the hardest time doing that. Apparently they can "block" the PIN # from ever being used again? It took about 3 phone calls and practically begging the guy on the phone to unblock it once I convinced him I was holding the unit in my hand. Whatever they did they could see I attempted to register it on our BES.

I'm assuming all carriers can do this and not just Cingular? I dunno, made me feel better knowing that if I lost one I could call cingular and have them deactivate it (as well as me wiping/locking the unit from the BES), and even if it was stolen/found, the new owner couldn't use it anyway.

tmj
05-31-2006, 04:15 PM
for an update, my gf called rogers and asked who it belonged too but they were not able to tell her anything since of the PRIVACY ACT... and was told to take it into a rogers location.

also i just asked a question, nor did i steal this device from someone.. im not a thief

just want to clear that up

Finding the device does not make you a thief. Failure to take it to Rogers, however, will.

gq_fuzion
06-01-2006, 11:05 PM
Maybe it's just me, but we "lost" a unit in the office (I say lost because it was found eventually after we had cancelled it), and we contacted Cingular and they actually blocked the PIN # on the device. Found that out only after I had found the device, went to re-register it and had the hardest time doing that. Apparently they can "block" the PIN # from ever being used again? It took about 3 phone calls and practically begging the guy on the phone to unblock it once I convinced him I was holding the unit in my hand. Whatever they did they could see I attempted to register it on our BES.

I'm assuming all carriers can do this and not just Cingular? I dunno, made me feel better knowing that if I lost one I could call cingular and have them deactivate it (as well as me wiping/locking the unit from the BES), and even if it was stolen/found, the new owner couldn't use it anyway.

couldn't use the blackberry data features at least...
phone features and PIM could still be used just fine tho

ItsAllVerbatim
06-02-2006, 12:33 PM
Unbelievable. God forbid you should ever find a kid.

8-) Classic punch.

finch
06-02-2006, 12:45 PM
Thank you, finally someone gets it!
Finding the device does not make you a thief. Failure to take it to Rogers, however, will.

AlbertoM
06-02-2006, 03:36 PM
Finding the device does not make you a thief. Failure to take it to Rogers, however, will.
Well said.

AlbertoM
06-02-2006, 03:38 PM
Unbelievable. God forbid you should ever find a kid.
Wait. Wait! WAIT! You mean that you can give them back?!?!?