Video is here!!! [Archive] - BlackBerry Forums Support Community

finch

06-27-2006, 08:55 AM

No idea, but the PINstack folks seem to have little issue whoring links to their forum here but heaven forbid you post a link over their referring to another forum and their all over you like a bunch jackyls on a rotting carcus...
But why does A Blackberry (or even a cell phone user) really need this?

N8DBB

06-27-2006, 09:35 AM

As far as I know, this link wasn't "whored" (for your lack of a better word) from Pinstack over to here.

Getting back on the topic of the SonaMobile Player, why would someone want that? Well, in case many of you haven't noticed, Blackberrys are getting more and more consumer notice every day now, and it looks as if the public sector is gaining users quickly. Therefore, there are going to need programs such as this because there will be a growing command for them for consumer users.

Any questions, you have my email and PIN.

Actually, let me edit so that you have the right pin: Its 20405a18

stealthx32

06-27-2006, 10:38 AM

Wow. If something's handed to you on a silver platter, you'd all say "**** no", huh...

And for the record, I read this on I4U.com, and thought you might be interested.

But why does A Blackberry (or even a cell phone user) really need this?

Thank God people like you don't run RIM. They'd be still in the stone age. You'd probably say no to the TCP stack too.

insecterx

06-27-2006, 02:04 PM

But why does A Blackberry (or even a cell phone user) really need this?
PORN baby, PORN!!!!!! (y)

finch

06-27-2006, 02:20 PM

In that case I'm on the way over to make a post with reference to another forum, I'm sure I'll be warned or banned before I hit submit... :-o
As far as I know, this link wasn't "whored" (for your lack of a better word) from Pinstack over to here.

Getting back on the topic of the SonaMobile Player, why would someone want that? Well, in case many of you haven't noticed, Blackberrys are getting more and more consumer notice every day now, and it looks as if the public sector is gaining users quickly. Therefore, there are going to need programs such as this because there will be a growing command for them for consumer users.

Any questions, you have my email and PIN.

Actually, let me edit so that you have the right pin: Its 20405a18

NJBlackBerry

06-27-2006, 02:25 PM

Careful Finch, the Pinheads will attack you too...

tprime

06-27-2006, 04:27 PM

Why can't we all just get along?

griffjnr

06-27-2006, 05:01 PM

I downloaded the software with no snags but I can't download any of the video samples as it gives me a java error. Any ideas?

contempt

06-27-2006, 05:08 PM

I was able to download the software OTA and play with the videos. Here's the link for OTA: h**p://video.sonamobile.net/download.asp

They state that it's beta, so YMMV. I think the quality of the video is mediocre at best. Granted, if any of you have tried MobiTV, you'll be used to the grainy compression. What bugs me is that you have to download the videos, there's no streaming. Which means on average it took me about 4 minutes to download a 1 minute news clip. Now if there was an option for me to stream my own videos or other videos I could see the benefit, but for now it's limited to their News, Finance, and Sports videos.

jdjleo

06-27-2006, 05:26 PM

its....aight.....

'nuff said

rcg

06-27-2006, 10:53 PM

First as someone who streams their SlingBox to a PocketPC I would have to say Mobile Video can be very useful... it's a nice way to remote program my TiVo for starters. Downloading 30 second clips isn't really of interest to me... its novel at best. But real streaming of actual content does have its uses.

As far as PinStack goes I have been there and participated some and everyone seems fine... there are few BBF regulars that spend time there so I agree with tprime. It's somewhat nonsensical to remove relevant posts that link other sites - except as a way to try to reduce search indexing and keep eyeballs on your site... if your doing a good enough job with content you wont have much to worry about with people seeing the "forbidden fruit"!!! :-)

takeshi

06-28-2006, 07:54 AM

But why does A Blackberry (or even a cell phone user) really need this?
Everybody asks that question about some particular feature or app. The answer, in short, is that 'one size does not fit all" but thankfully there are options.

texasag90

06-28-2006, 08:14 AM

Everybody asks that question about some particular feature or app. The answer, in short, is that 'one size does not fit all" but thankfully there are options.

I distinctly remember a conversation with several people in the early nineties who wondered aloud "Why would anyone need to carry their email with them."

stac

06-28-2006, 08:16 AM

What would be more helpful than anything, IMHO, would be a vlc/Core media player for the Blackberry. Has anyone bothered to contact the Core developers about developing a Java/J2ME implementation of TCPMP? Seems likely that someone is working on that? Any thoughts?

-S

stac

06-28-2006, 08:18 AM

As a quick followup to my own post, I found this:

http://cc.serveftp.org:8884/tcpmp/

Which clearly states that they are planning on releasing TCPMP for the J2ME platform which means it should run on a BB...

-S

finch

06-28-2006, 08:39 AM

Crap, forgot about the Pinheads...
Careful Finch, the Pinheads will attack you too...

Blackberry_1

07-04-2006, 11:51 AM

Sona Rocks, I just hope they get the Download speed fixed. Its painfully slow right now.

HuwSy

07-04-2006, 04:00 PM

maybe il get a data plan then, well once iv upgraded to a 7130... more pointless gadgety features are always good. lol.

as for pinstack, iv not got a problem other than id like them to upgrade there version of vBulletin, then again id like someone here to set the login session cookies to last longer.

MobileRC

07-05-2006, 02:31 PM

they stopped allowing downloads. does anyone have the jar or alx file?

mbrunton

07-05-2006, 03:44 PM

pls someone post the downloaded file

nsbalt

07-06-2006, 03:30 PM

pls someone post the downloaded file

Anyone - Anyone - -Bueller - Bueller??

tankee531

07-06-2006, 09:20 PM

But why does A Blackberry (or even a cell phone user) really need this?

to have a favourite clip of your loved ones with you while being away on business trips.

tarq3

07-12-2006, 08:28 AM

they stopped allowing downloads. does anyone have the jar or alx file?

Does no one have the files or wanting to post them???

HuwSy

07-12-2006, 11:18 AM

WHen this comes out it has to support flash videos, then i could waste hours every day watching google videos for no reason other than to mms the occasional one or two, or atleast send the link if it wont allow that. lol

HuwSy

07-12-2006, 11:19 AM

Does no one have the files or wanting to post them???

Oh as for the files, theres a limited number of beta testing spaces so even if you had the files i doubt youd be able to get hold of any video content, and noones going to send them so can people stop asking.

N8DBB

07-12-2006, 03:53 PM

The beta download link has been taken down because the amount of beta testers needed has been filled...The next you will see about this will probably be the official release.

djdanska

07-12-2006, 04:40 PM

I have it on my bb but it only lets me download videos from june 29th.

bbsee

07-12-2006, 05:02 PM

Does anyone know if this video player is supposed to play all video formats or just videos that play only on RIM?

Thanks.

HuwSy

07-12-2006, 06:30 PM

The other project of getting video onto a Bb required someone to setup with the bes server a transcode server that would convert any sent video to the appropriate format before passing it on to the Bb.

This service looks as if only specific videos are going to be converted to play, leaving a relativly limited selection but useful for those without redundant servers to spare.

jayshen

08-02-2006, 12:39 PM

pls post the link to download this player....thx

DceFrance

08-03-2006, 06:56 AM

Why would anyone need this? For the same reason video's been around on PDAs (Palms, PocketPCs, ...) for years.

Right now I'm having to carry around both my Blackberry (8700f) and my Palm in order to meet my parallel needs. Unfortunately not one of them meets the majority of my needs.

Blackberry is an excellent mobile Internet terminal. Palm is pretty awful for this. However I can browse the Internet for free on my Palm using WiFi. With the Blackberry I pay for every megabyte I look at.

On the Palm I have a large collection of photos which I need to carry around professionally. A certain number of my clients are in the horse business, for example, and they need to carry around pictures of horses. I have clients in the art business and they need to carry around pictures of art. I haven't figured out how to easily download images from my computer to my Blackberry. This is seamless and practically unlimited with my Palm.

As I mentioned I have clients in the horse business. I therefore carry around short video clips of certain horse races. These are on my Palm and they look great in landscape on my Palm TX. I also have clients in the dance business and I carry around dance clips for the same reason.

Multimedia on a Blackberry? Why bother? For the same reason we've seen multimedia on handhelds for years. If the Blackberry is going to keep itself limited to the notion of a push Internet terminal, which many of the PDAs are now starting to do as well, then the Blackberry will eventually perish in to extinction.

The big question for me is when do we see an SD card slot in a Blackberry???

kjaslow

08-03-2006, 04:18 PM

jayshen

08-04-2006, 02:59 AM

While this is slightly off topic - you should check out jiveslide (jiveslide.com)! Post your pics on Yahoo Photos and then access them through this app on your BB. If that's the only reason you're carrying two devices...forget the Palm!!

Well said!!! Can't agree more...

Some of us just want to test a few new apps...that's all...not such a big deal...

DceFrance

08-04-2006, 05:24 AM

As my message was more than slightly off topic it's logical that we go off on a tangent!

Thanks for the info re:JiveSlide. I'm trying it out now.

Multimedia is not the only reason I still have to carry around my Palm. Although it's a major part.

One of the major differences I've noticed is that PDAs work online and offline while Blackberries appear to do very little offline. Jiveslide is a good example. I use SplashPhoto on my Palm and store hundreds of images on my SD card. These images are available to me offline without connecting to the Internet and without paying to download and see my own images. The same is true for video which would be even more of a data transfer.

Blackberry lets me pick up my e-mails online, work on them offline, and send my replies when I get back online. I like that.

I would just like to be able to do that with all of the other functions.

Berry Pix

08-04-2006, 05:41 AM

One of the major differences I've noticed is that PDAs work online and offline while Blackberries appear to do very little offline. Jiveslide is a good example. I use SplashPhoto on my Palm and store hundreds of images on my SD card. These images are available to me offline without connecting to the Internet and without paying to download and see my own images.

Sounds like our Berry Pix 2.0 product might be of assistance.

(y) You can transfer pictures right from your PC to your Handheld using the BB Desktop Manager interface - works over serial/usb and also bluetooth if supported by your BB Desktop Manager Handheld Combo. Berry Pix has no preset limit on the number of pictures you can use and tries to be very respectful of the BlackBerry's limited resources.

(y) Berry Pix provides a nice grid-style thumbnail browser for rapidly locating the picture you want as well as a slideshow mode with many neat picture transitons.

(y) As a Palm user, you might also appreciate the convenience of having Backup/Restore supported for your Berry Pix pictures and categories which is seamlessly supported via the BB Desktop Manager. Now if you decide to change BlackBerry handhelds or upgrade your OS, you just restore your Berry Pix pictures and categories in just the same way as your messages and calendar etc.

Check out the website below

lmlloyd

08-04-2006, 06:32 AM

But why does A Blackberry (or even a cell phone user) really need this?

Well, I haven't used (or even looked at) this particular software. However, back when I did corporate training, I once saved a Fortune 100 company $7 million dollars in one year by developing a multimedia training package for handheld devices that would replace the handbooks, video tapes, computers, orientation packages, and directories they had been giving every new hire, with a PDA, and some videos and software on it.

So, from a corporate point of view (which is supposedly the focus of the BB) having a media capable device can make a lot of sense. If you are already giving your workforce BBs, why not give them audio files and videos on that BB which can make their job easier and safer?

It is a big misconception that media features are just a consumer item that exists as a gee whiz to sell phones. Big business spends a lot more on media production and multimedia than you might think, and how to deliver that content is always one of the biggest questions.

zero1

08-04-2006, 12:43 PM

regarding SD/Memory card slot on the BB:

my thoughts are that RIM would have to work out a deal with a software vendor or something in order to offer a propietary document handling software as most of BB users are business and would most likely like the expansion for document handling (at least i know that would be the main reason i would want the slot) as well as for media capabilities - so im sure they have to make agreements with software companies that offer these software for BB. The camera would be awesome - i bought a SK3 just for the media purposes, although the SK3 has nothin on my BB and the camera is jack the media player is handy (1 device, music, camera, phone) it has a great form factor now that danger decided to outsource their manufacturing to SHARP, solid build, like i said its great for what it is - they also mentioned that it was to run on EDGE yet i have not had that experience as of yet(tmobile). sorry for the rant but thats my .02

morser

08-04-2006, 01:34 PM

is it just me or is the link to the Sonamobile Berry app not on this thread? Not even in pinstack links.
can someone provide it?

nsbalt

08-08-2006, 08:06 AM

Over the air install:
video.sonamobile.com/ota2

Blackberry TV (BBTV)
Exclusive: SonaMobile BlackBerry video player - new BETA!!! - RIM Blackberry Forums - Pinstack.com (http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/showthread.php?t=4921)

bbTV™ – Play Video Clips, Download and Watch News, Sports and Other TV Programs on Blackberry® devices from RIM® (http://www.canada.com/bbtv/rogers.html)

zero1

08-08-2006, 08:38 AM

will we need to eventually pay for the video installation and are those videos the only clips they have or will there be more?

N8DBB

08-08-2006, 10:25 AM

will we need to eventually pay for the video installation and are those videos the only clips they have or will there be more?

As of right now, the only users who will have to pay for the SonaMobile Player are Rogers Customers at a charge of $5/month.

As for the future of them being free, if you notice there is advertisements before the clips begin, so after testing I am sure a decision will be made by the advertisers if it is worth their while to keep advertising on the clips.

Video clips are to be updated throughout the day, Monday through Friday. You can log onto canada.com (http://www.bbtv.ca) and see the scheduled update times. If I am not mistaken off the top of my head it's going to be 9am and 5pm EDT.

PaCharger

08-08-2006, 11:15 AM

awesome find! Downloaded the ota2 freebie on my 8700c, grabbed all three free clips and watched them. Video/audio synch are glitchy at times, but this is still very cool. The downloads take a few minutes, but heck, this isnt a Cray computer, it's a blackberry.

It would be great if you could time a polling of the website with the updated clips, to download them during off use times (say 5am). Then, wether in the car, train, or at the office desk, you could view them at will.

N8DBB

08-08-2006, 11:22 AM

It would be great if you could time a polling of the website with the updated clips, to download them during off use times (say 5am). Then, wether in the car, train, or at the office desk, you could view them at will.

That will eventually be coming with an updated release, where the content can just be pushed to your device. (y)

jfkuchta

08-08-2006, 11:26 AM

Good stuff. Now that the programming community knows that this is do-able, hopefully someon is working on a more flexible format - i.e., downloading any clips, streaming media, etc.

tprime

08-08-2006, 11:27 AM

Hey it's not spectacular but its not bad for free. I"d maybe like to see the ability to download other news or other files. I'm in ny i'd like to see some more espn like sports update, but hey it is a canadian company. But at least you can see the capability of the 8700.

Spamdumpster

08-08-2006, 11:43 AM

Anyone know how to remove downloaded clips from memory. If you delete them in SonaMobile, the meory is not freed up in the device. A hard reset did the trick, but that seems like too much trouble. Any other way to force the device to free up the memory after clips are deleted?

jibi

08-08-2006, 11:59 AM

AV sync is definitely off SUBSTANTIALLY, but that's life, I suppose. It takes 10 minutes or so to download a single 1.5-2 minute clip. Not sure if I'd care for that. Maybe this will be something nice on EV-DO or HSDPA, but right now, on EDGE, it's not very great.

buggle_96

08-08-2006, 12:06 PM

I get a "An unexpected error has occured"

If I view More Info I receive "Sender: ViewStateTask.run() Exception: java.ioException: could not open tunnel - failed."

Is anyone else running t-mobile and having thie problem?

mbrunton

08-08-2006, 12:12 PM

I'm on tmobile and get the same error.

N8DBB

08-08-2006, 12:18 PM

T-Mobile also and no problems here on my end.

You may want to try and delete the program and reinstall.

I was having issues earlier and did that, and it works fine now. For some reason I believe the culprit was it stopped sending the request out to get the video clips. Dunno for sure.

buggle_96

08-08-2006, 01:00 PM

Tried that twice now. No luck. Wonder if it has to do with my software version I am running. I just upgraded to the newest on the site, .456 I believe it is.

N8DBB

08-08-2006, 01:22 PM

Tried that twice now. No luck. Wonder if it has to do with my software version I am running. I just upgraded to the newest on the site, .456 I believe it is.

There are other users experiencing the same thing. I have sent 2 emails now to support and waiting to hear back from them. As soon as I hear from them I will post with what they say.

I am wondering if it has to do with an overload of requests into their download site.

Lemme ask this too, when you go to browse clips, are your blue data transfer arrows flashing?

buggle_96

08-08-2006, 01:28 PM

They start to, an arrow points out, and then an arrow points back in and then the error comes up. Thanks, keep us informed!

mpower

08-08-2006, 03:32 PM

same problem here with t mobile.

Towtruck

08-08-2006, 05:39 PM

Blatantly stolen from here(squidoo dot com slash blackberry8700 since I can't post URLs yet)

Go to:

Options>>Advanced Options>>TCP

Under APN enter:

wap.voicestream.com

Finished!

Open up the program and select "View Latest Downloadable Clips" and a list will appear for you to download.

I've got it rolling on my 8700c on T-mobile following that setting. Now somebody figure out what format this is, and how to encode clips in it. :)

buggle_96

08-09-2006, 10:50 AM