7510 simulator establishing HttpConnection without MDS started!!!

[berrypicker@span]

Hi all,
I was testing a simple application that is creating the a HttpConnection(this is a midp2.0 MIDlet) and in the docs/message boards I read that to make HttpConnections work I have to make sure that the MDS simulator is up as well.I am using 7510 simulator to test. To my surprise I noticed that even though I did not start the MDS simulator 7510 could create the HttpConnection and get responses, so What is exactly happening here?
I checked though that the browser is not able to access net with MDS simulator not started,I am baffled please explain.
Thanks a bunch in advance

[greenhut]

It's using the WAP BWC emulation, but not sure why the browser isnt working the same way...

[berrypicker@span]

I am not using the WAP specific string along with the url so I was thinking that it should not use the WAP thingie, here also I am not sure what BWC emulation in 7510 means, I am still pretty much of a newbie can anyone please explain how can I make the simulator to channel all the HttpConnection through MDS simulator only? This will help to have a better grasp of the actual flow.

By the way here's the Httpconnection command I am using in my code:-



conn = (HttpConnection) Connector.open(http://10.10.10.143/scripts/jvlogin.asp?drid=jason&pass=driver&GrndRouteFlg=N);


waiting for all your replies....Thanks in advance!

[greenhut]

Try adding ";deviceside=false" to the end of the url you are hitting.

[berrypicker@span]

Seems adding ";deviceside=false" is working, thanks for that suggestion can you please explain what does adding this parameter signify ?
And also MDS simulator seems to be very intermittent it fails every 1 out of 3 requests why is this so?
Thanks to all once again

[arconsulting]

BlackBerry devices on the Nextel network (i.e. 6510, 7510, 7520) can communicate via tcp in one of two ways: direct and proxy. The "deviceside=" setting tells the device whether to use direct (tcp via Nextel) or proxy (tcp via BES/MDS).