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MrKyoo
04-24-2007, 07:18 PM
Great!!!! Just rub it in because I was to cheap to spring the extra $15 for express shipping...... What were you thinking? And by the way, I received my 8800 today. :razz:

John Clark
04-24-2007, 07:18 PM
Here's a picture I just took of my browser showing Google's logo. I added the black box around the L in Google just so you know what I'm talking about.






I'm thinking you've got a defective device. As much as I hate to say it, I'd send it back.

nexteli836man
04-24-2007, 07:21 PM
yep i say that too .call for a replacement ... bummer hope mine don't come like that

LunkHead
04-24-2007, 07:37 PM
What were you thinking? And by the way, I received my 8800 today. :razz:

Great..... Like rubbing salt into an open wound.... :cry:

I'm thinking you've got a defective device. As much as I hate to say it, I'd send it back.

I agree with JC..... Looks like it needs to go back as that is NOT normal....

Inhoc07
04-24-2007, 07:59 PM
Well even though I placed my order at 1:30 pm yesterday, and the fact that I got the UPS express delivery , it didn't arrive today. Checked the UPS site, and it will be here tomorrow..oh well! :smile:

LunkHead
04-24-2007, 08:04 PM
Here's a picture I just took of my browser showing Google's logo. I added the black box around the L in Google just so you know what I'm talking about.

http://www.carlthree.net/bb8800/DSC00034.thumb.jpg (http://www.carlthree.net/bb8800/DSC00034.jpg)
Click to enlarge.

Being a brand new device you should send it back.... If it was me though.... I'd Jl_Cmder it and install the OS again and see if that fixed it 1st.... Take about 30 min total instead of waiting a week for the return to arrive....

ninja95
04-24-2007, 10:10 PM
Well, I have another 8800 on the way to me to replace the creaking sides. I gave the GPS a try while I was out and it was OK. I have a Garmin StreetPilot in the truck and the 8800 is a lot slower than the purpose built GPS with maps stored locally. It would be ok while I was on the road if I didn't travel with my Garmin. I think those without a stand-alone GPS device will do a fine with the 8800.

caggarcia
04-24-2007, 10:29 PM
Being a brand new device you should send it back.... If it was me though.... I'd Jl_Cmder it and install the OS again and see if that fixed it 1st.... Take about 30 min total instead of waiting a week for the return to arrive....

Actually they're Express Shipping my new phone to me. I had no other choice :(

LunkHead
04-25-2007, 05:34 AM
Ooooo..... Mine is at local UPS delivery site.... I need a brick, a ski mask, and some gloves... :razz:

jpfchicago
04-25-2007, 04:18 PM
It seems ok but I dont know about the keyboard. Why couldnt they make the keys a little bit bigger like my old 7230.

lalady
04-25-2007, 04:57 PM
the 8800 launched exclusively to the online and corporate channels. no word yet on if/when retail will have it. contact a t-mobile business rep to get the pricing for new activations.

LunkHead
04-25-2007, 05:04 PM
Mine arrived today! Love it! Yes the keys are a bit different than the 87xx or 72xx series but I think over time they will be easy to get adjusted to....

wayneholbrook
04-25-2007, 05:48 PM
I got mine yesterday and for the most part, I like it. I hope the 8300 comes out on May 7th so I can still have time to return my 8800 during the 14 day trial. I like it, but I think the 8300 will fit much better for me. I hope I can get use to the ball instead of the track wheel, I got so use to the wheel.

LunkHead
04-25-2007, 05:51 PM
I'd rather have GPS than wifi.....

It takes no time at all to get adjusted to the trackball.... I had same issue when I changed over to 8100.... Don't hold your breath on May 7th :)

nexteli836man
04-25-2007, 06:03 PM
well i ordered mine yesterday and still has not shipped yet called 3 times they say it still says pending ... but i should have it by the 27th and to think i paid for express shipping

LunkHead
04-25-2007, 06:04 PM
well i ordered mine yesterday and still has not shipped yet called 3 times they say it still says pending ... but i should have it by the 27th and to think i paid for express shipping

I'd be demanding a refund on the express shipping.... I wounder if they are out of stock????

nexteli836man
04-25-2007, 06:08 PM
they checked that they said there not out of them .... but i placed my order around 5pm so thats prob why

LunkHead
04-25-2007, 06:10 PM
I'd still demand a refund for the express considering everyone else on express got theirs next day and cheapO me went regular and got it in 2 days....

MrKyoo
04-25-2007, 07:44 PM
Bah…I got squeaky sides. (n)

LunkHead
04-25-2007, 07:46 PM
Same here! 1st thing I noticed......... :cry:

nexteli836man
04-25-2007, 07:57 PM
Same here! 1st thing I noticed......... :cry:

for what i paid i will send it back if i ever get it lol

LunkHead
04-25-2007, 08:01 PM
It's not bad..... just a minor creek..... :)

Reverend Beavis
04-25-2007, 08:44 PM
Bah…I got squeaky sides. (n)

I'm squeakin' like crazy. Love the GPS, though.

LunkHead
04-25-2007, 08:55 PM
Mine is not bad (or i am deaf) it seems to depend on how i hold it....

jpfchicago
04-26-2007, 08:58 AM
No doubt it has some great features, GPS, great screen, sharp looks, etc. Its distractions are also worth stating, very small keyboard, the finish makes it look like i just got done eating some chicken wings. Also, it doesnt look very durable. What would happen if I drop it like I have dropped the BB7200 so many times. Is there a reason why its not so durable? Products are supposed to improve over time. All I see here are bells and whistles. The core functions email, phone, etc, have regressed. The software.....after all that hype......I could have thought of allot more to incorporate into the software.

I guess I may be having withdrawl from my 7230 but the 7230 did what its supposed to do fast and effeciently. I dont know if I can crank out an email as fast on the 8820. I will give it a few days and then decide if the 7230 needs to be reactivated.

The older bb's didnt have all the bells and whistles but they sure did a good job of getting email out and served as great phones. I suspect that Motorola is reading this. There is a need for what I am talking about here.

NJBlackBerry
04-26-2007, 09:00 AM
What is the difference between an 8820 and an 8800?

MrKyoo
04-26-2007, 09:08 AM
I'm squeakin' like crazy. Love the GPS, though.Same here.

I compared my Pearl to the 8800 and hands down, the 8100 is built much stronger than the 8800 that I have.

texasag90
04-26-2007, 09:09 AM
The older bb's didnt have all the bells and whistles but they sure did a good job of getting email out and served as great phones. I suspect that Motorola is reading this. There is a need for what I am talking about here.

I was with sort of understanding you until you mentioned Moto. Based on user reports that I have heard, I cannot think of phone with a worse reliability reputation than the Razor.

I can say that I have dropped my 8700 a lot -- and it keeps on ticking. The 8800 may be more robust than it appears.

takeshi
04-26-2007, 09:40 AM
I have long had TMobile coverage and one of my biggest gripes is that the microphone particularly on my old BB 7300 series and my current 8700 seems to be just too sensitve. If I call anyone from outside they hear SO much background noise that it is unbearable for them. Is this a TMobile issue, a GSM issue or a Blackberry issue?
It's the device. I use a BT headset and it doesn't pickup the noise that the 8700's mic does. My wife uses an ety.com headset with hers in the car for the same reason. Otherwise it's difficult to hear her over he road noise (which usually sounds like loud running water).

jpfchicago
04-26-2007, 10:21 AM
I was with sort of understanding you until you mentioned Moto. Based on user reports that I have heard, I cannot think of phone with a worse reliability reputation than the Razor.

I can say that I have dropped my 8700 a lot -- and it keeps on ticking. The 8800 may be more robust than it appears.

I'm not advocating anyone going to Motorola. All I am saying is that RIM seems to have abandoned the market for good basic b to b communication. All those manufacturers out there looking for a new product opportunity will soon fill the gap. I still like BB but the 7200 line seemed more durable and effecient.

NJBlackBerry
04-26-2007, 10:48 AM
jpfchicago - do you have an 8820? If so, what are the differences between the 8820 and the 8800.

Thank you.

BTW - the business community has embraced the 8100....

LunkHead
04-26-2007, 04:25 PM
LOL Nj....

Dang I hope my BSE gets here fast.... Don't want to scratch my new baby up!!!!!

Black Bart
04-26-2007, 05:50 PM
I've had mine now for almost 2 weeks. I like most of the features but the keyboard is horrible. I find myself sending fewer emails because of it.

LunkHead
04-26-2007, 05:52 PM
See my other post reference the keyboard :)

nexteli836man
04-26-2007, 06:19 PM
well i just got mine 30 min ago and have to say i like it but i too have them creaking sides but its not bad as long it don't get worse over time and use

lonnielove
04-26-2007, 10:11 PM
well i just got mine 30 min ago and have to say i like it but i too have them creaking sides but its not bad as long it don't get worse over time and use
has anybody come up with a fix on the creeky sides?

test54
04-26-2007, 10:17 PM
yes, check the 8800 section. some have used dental floss, electrical tape but seems like a less than permanat fix.

kagbeni94
04-27-2007, 08:31 AM
It's the device. I use a BT headset and it doesn't pickup the noise that the 8700's mic does. My wife uses an ety.com headset with hers in the car for the same reason. Otherwise it's difficult to hear her over he road noise (which usually sounds like loud running water).

I have a BT headset (Moto H700) which is great when in the car or somewhere quiet, but when walking down the street seems to act like a wind tunnel and people on the other end complain about wind noise rather than the surrounding noise. I still think they need to do a much better job on the noise reduction/condenser mic side of things. I am effectively restricted from making any serious calls from the street owing to this distracting noise.

takeshi
04-27-2007, 08:43 AM
I'm dubious as to how well noise reduction algorithms will help with wind noise. Even the Jawbone's noise cancellation tech doesn't handle wind very well. In video/film production we use special enclosures for mics to "break" the wind but they're really too bulky for BT headsets or cell phones even if you made miniature versions of them...

Black Bart
04-27-2007, 03:58 PM
I hate typing on this 8800 keyboard. BBerry could have done a much better job on the design.

Black Bart
04-28-2007, 10:38 AM
overall the 8800 is impressive, problem is that the keyboard to too small. its like BBerry is sacrificing functionality in exchange for style and gimmicks. Why would they design a machine with all these gadgets and then screw up the keyboard.
if another phone builder builds a more workable phone/email device, i will go there.

LunkHead
04-28-2007, 03:49 PM
overall the 8800 is impressive, problem is that the keyboard to too small. its like BBerry is sacrificing functionality in exchange for style and gimmicks. Why would they design a machine with all these gadgets and then screw up the keyboard.
if another phone builder builds a more workable phone/email device, i will go there.

Please do explain the gimmicks and gadgets on the 8800???? You *must* have a different version of the 8800 than I because mine came with no gimmicks and gadgets...... :shrug:

Black Bart
04-29-2007, 07:33 PM
Please do explain the gimmicks and gadgets on the 8800???? You *must* have a different version of the 8800 than I because mine came with no gimmicks and gadgets...... :shrug:

gimmicks are GPS, voicedialing, media, bb messenger, they cramed all this stuff into the 8820 and the result is the keyboard is too small. the basic functions of email and phone have been compromised.

mymitsu3kgt
04-29-2007, 07:38 PM
Some people have complained in the past about phone quality. I personally have never had a problem with phone quality. How exactly is the performance of email affected by adding GPS and Voice Commands. I don't think you have anything to base that on.

LunkHead
04-29-2007, 08:06 PM
gimmicks are GPS, voicedialing, media, bb messenger, they cramed all this stuff into the 8820 and the result is the keyboard is too small. the basic functions of email and phone have been compromised.

Ohhhhh this post is way to easy to tear apart..... I pass for the humanity of it all......

DrFooMod2
04-30-2007, 11:01 AM
Just received my t-mo 8800 today.

nremondelli
04-30-2007, 11:13 AM
They are backordered :(

LunkHead
04-30-2007, 11:15 AM
Just received my t-mo 8800 today.

Awesome!!!! Enjoy it! Loving mine so far!!!!! :)

They are backordered :(

Did they say how long??? I'd guess they'd get some in pretty quick....

Black Bart
04-30-2007, 02:37 PM
Some people have complained in the past about phone quality. I personally have never had a problem with phone quality. How exactly is the performance of email affected by adding GPS and Voice Commands. I don't think you have anything to base that on.

I think that the key board is too small as compared with the 7200 models, thus the basic functions have been sacrificed.

LunkHead
04-30-2007, 03:04 PM
I think that the key board is too small as compared with the 7200 models, thus the basic functions have been sacrificed.

Have you used all 13 of your posts to say how horrid the keyboard is, and how they have included gimmicks and gadgets that have cut back on the functionality of the device???? Do you really even have one or are you just just bashing the 8800????????

tpaflorida
04-30-2007, 05:21 PM
I ordered my upgrade 8800 on Wednesday. Got a text message on Thursday am telling me that the order was placed and it would be charged to my account. Then I called Friday to check its tracking number and tmobile said it wasn't shipped. Called today they said it was on back ordered, called 2 more times to make sure it was true and they said it was on back order - and it is VERY TRUE! You can no longer upgrade since the demand is way too high for it. 4 reps told me that.

krayziebydaflesh
05-01-2007, 12:24 AM
Are u all signing opening new lines just for this phone? cuz everywhere i check im told i cant upgrade my phone that the only way i can get a 8800 is by signing up for a new Tmobile account...

Black Bart
05-01-2007, 08:44 AM
Have you used all 13 of your posts to say how horrid the keyboard is, and how they have included gimmicks and gadgets that have cut back on the functionality of the device???? Do you really even have one or are you just just bashing the 8800????????

I thought BB Forums was a place where we can discuss the various BB products? I am merely voicing my opinion. My opinion is that the keyboard is too small. So yes, I guess I am bashing the functionality of the 8800. I am only on about the 8800 and not their other products.

My overall opinion of RIM is the highest.

Michbb
05-01-2007, 08:47 AM
Are u all signing opening new lines just for this phone? cuz everywhere i check im told i cant upgrade my phone that the only way i can get a 8800 is by signing up for a new Tmobile account...

It depends on when you bought your pearl. With Tmo you have to have a year before you can "upgrade" your phone according to them. Now if you want buy a new phone within that year then you can but you have to pay the full price.

LunkHead
05-01-2007, 08:57 AM
I thought BB Forums was a place where we can discuss the various BB products? I am merely voicing my opinion. My opinion is that the keyboard is too small. So yes, I guess I am bashing the functionality of the 8800. I am only on about the 8800 and not their other products.

My overall opinion of RIM is the highest.

And it is a great place to discuss BB's...

Instead of simply saying the keyboard is horrible maybe you can describe in more detail why you think it is horrible...

Instead of simply saying the gimmicks and gadgets have hampered the functionality of the 8800 why not be more specific? If you think GPS is a gimmick then that is fine and you are entitled to your opinion but explain how GPS hampers the functionality of the device.... Does it cause increased reboots? Does it cause email to not get delivered? Does it cause the phone quality to suffer???? ect......

nike30
05-01-2007, 09:04 AM
For all of you presently with the T-Mo 8800 - did you all get Telenav pushed to your device overnight?

This morning I awoke to a very nice Telenav Icon on my device. Quite interesting.

LunkHead
05-01-2007, 09:06 AM
Ohhhhhhhh nice find!!!!!! Thanks as I had not checked but I do have it!!!!!

Free 60 day trial!!! Woohoo :)

nike30
05-01-2007, 09:11 AM
Yes sir and I plan on wearing it out on my trip to 'Nawlins very soon (y)

LunkHead
05-01-2007, 09:19 AM
Ohhhh me like!!!! Much better than BBMaps.... Might require purchase after trial! :)

MrKyoo
05-01-2007, 09:24 AM
What’s the version of TeleNav?

LunkHead
05-01-2007, 09:26 AM
5.1

kasperapd
05-01-2007, 09:28 AM
For all of you presently with the T-Mo 8800 - did you all get Telenav pushed to your device overnight?

This morning I awoke to a very nice Telenav Icon on my device. Quite interesting.

I have a Cingular 8800 unlocked on T-Mobile and I did get the TeleNav icon last night as well as Handango InHand. I thought that was odd, and wondered where they came from.

nike30
05-01-2007, 09:30 AM
No Handango for me yet.

But this is interesting. Now when I click on the Telenav icon, I get an error message: 'A problem occured while trying to redner the page'.

crap.

LunkHead
05-01-2007, 09:31 AM
Mine came with the InHand on it but the TeleNav was pushed last night... :)

Are you outside and in the clear?? Mine loaded right up like a champ..... Try a reboot....

nike30
05-01-2007, 09:36 AM
Nah I'm in the office.

Funny thing is, I can hit any webpage in the office accept those going to T-Zones (which I am assuming Telenav is being pulled from), since the 'Tmobile' sign pops up when I click on the Telenav icon, versus the 'blackberry' signage when I browse any other website.

MrKyoo
05-01-2007, 09:37 AM
5.1Interesting, they finally upgraded. TeleNav has been promising this for awhile now.

LunkHead
05-01-2007, 09:40 AM
Nah I'm in the office.

Funny thing is, I can hit any webpage in the office accept those going to T-Zones (which I am assuming Telenav is being pulled from), since the 'Tmobile' sign pops up when I click on the Telenav icon, versus the 'blackberry' signage when I browse any other website.

Ya you gotta be outside where it can lock onto the satellites.... :)

Also the icon will initially bring you to a web page where you have to agree to the terms of service, then you enter your phone # and email address.... Then it will bring you to a link for the actual download of the application...

Interesting, they finally upgraded. TeleNav has been promising this for awhile now.

Yes mine says v5.1 at application load..... It is pretty sweet and might just be worth paying the $10 a month to keep once the trial is over.... Voice prompts, turn by turn and traffic avoidance.... Pretty sweet!

I have court at 1300 so I might try it out then and see how well it does :)

hf1khal
05-01-2007, 11:21 AM
Did it say 4.7.0.18 on the download screen? when I go to the OTA that is what I see for the download.

precision80
05-01-2007, 11:38 AM
Im purchasing an 8800 today. Im with tmobile and am not extending my contract. Is there any reason for me to spend the extra $ to get a tmobile branded one or will an unlocked cingular one be fine? Are there any differences?

nobueno
05-01-2007, 12:58 PM
I received my 8800 from T-Mobile yesterday. The SIM was dead so after 3 calls to tech support they had me go to a store today for a replacement. I can make phone calls but no email or internet access. I was told it takes 24 hours for both to become functional. Is this a true statement? Will the browser appear on my 8800 when it becomes functional? Right now I do not have a browser in my applications. Forgive my ignorance, this is my first BB.

LunkHead
05-01-2007, 01:48 PM
Pull the battery every few hours... Once you are provisioned all will show up... :)

nobueno
05-01-2007, 01:56 PM
Pull the battery every few hours... Once you are provisioned all will show up... :)

Thanks! I just got a few messages from TMO letting me know that email & internet is now functional.

kasperapd
05-01-2007, 03:15 PM
Im purchasing an 8800 today. Im with tmobile and am not extending my contract. Is there any reason for me to spend the extra $ to get a tmobile branded one or will an unlocked cingular one be fine? Are there any differences?

Either should work just fine.

jpfchicago
05-03-2007, 11:36 AM
Wow, 17,000 views. I just wanted to know when the 8800 was coming out.

I,ve had my 8800 now for about a week. I do like it. I love the screen. I am dissapointed with the keyboard. I agree with a few of the previous writers that the small keyboard does take away from the functionality of the device.

zpaul
05-03-2007, 09:56 PM
That is rediculos. Today went to T-mobole store, they do not have it. Was told to get it trough the web. On the web can not upgrade because it's not listed for upgrade, called support they do not even know that they have this phone for sale. The girl told me they do not carry it anymore, when I directed her to T-mobile website, she was surprised and told me I can not upgrade, only to 8700:x or Perl
Sucks! Any Ideas?

e90fanatic
05-03-2007, 10:35 PM
any better than the dumba$$ rep today that told me that she was looking at the 8800 when I kept asking her if she got the right phone that she quoted me for $250...turns out that she ordered me the 8700!!! what's wrong with these people?! and what's wrong with T-Mo....all of a sudden no more 8800?

Black Bart
05-05-2007, 12:39 PM
any better than the dumba$$ rep today that told me that she was looking at the 8800 when I kept asking her if she got the right phone that she quoted me for $250...turns out that she ordered me the 8700!!! what's wrong with these people?! and what's wrong with T-Mo....all of a sudden no more 8800?

still like t-mobile, even though they are selling this 8800 with a poorly designed keyboard.
also, my girlfriend who works for tmobile dumped me because i was critical of the 8800.

test54
05-05-2007, 03:25 PM
i like my 8800 keyboard, all the tmobile people are going through the same things the cingy customers went through. Give it some time and many of you will find that its a good design, just different. Also, there are no surprises at this point.

jpfchicago
05-08-2007, 09:03 PM
i like my 8800 keyboard, all the tmobile people are going through the same things the cingy customers went through. Give it some time and many of you will find that its a good design, just different. Also, there are no surprises at this point.

The 8800 is a fine machine. It does have a few bugs, not many. One of them is the keyboard. They really could have done a better job on that. Its actually harder to use than the 7200 series.

jpfchicago
05-15-2007, 03:16 PM
I still think the keyboard is horrible. Cant send out an email like I used to. Its been 3 weeks. Its not going to get much better.

ctrobert
05-15-2007, 09:24 PM
Looks like it's available again for upgrade from the T-Mobile web site..

I'm still trying to hold out for the 8300 - so no order for me, but thought the group might like to know

14pups
05-16-2007, 05:07 AM
I still think the keyboard is horrible. Cant send out an email like I used to. Its been 3 weeks. Its not going to get much better.


I tend to agree.

cs1981
05-16-2007, 09:21 AM
Thanks! I just got a few messages from TMO letting me know that email & internet is now functional.

How long did this take? I have been pulling bat. out every few hours for a full day now and it is still not indicating that i can connect to edge network. I called tmo and they said it may take another day... can't be that long without email on handheld...Thanks!

Black Bart
05-21-2007, 05:58 PM
I was looking at the keyboard for the 8300. Looks much better and functional than the 8800.

Black Bart
06-04-2007, 11:07 AM
I heard from a few people over the weekend that T-Mobile is replacing the faceplates on the 8800's. I guess the new faceplate has the same screen and a much larger keyboard. All u have to do is go to any local store. It takes 2 minutes.

precision80
06-04-2007, 11:23 AM
I heard from a few people over the weekend that T-Mobile is replacing the faceplates on the 8800's. I guess the new faceplate has the same screen and a much larger keyboard. All u have to do is go to any local store. It takes 2 minutes.

when is this supposed to be happening?

NotReallyB
06-05-2007, 09:08 AM
I heard from a few people over the weekend that T-Mobile is replacing the faceplates on the 8800's. I guess the new faceplate has the same screen and a much larger keyboard. All u have to do is go to any local store. It takes 2 minutes.

Can anyone verify that they actually received a new faceplate for the TMO 8800? If so, please post a quick review of the differences. Thanks!

IanHummel
06-05-2007, 01:45 PM
I don't know what all the fuss is about. I came from an 8700 and I haven't missed a step on typing on the 8800. Haven't had a problem yet. Also, the squeeking and everything else that people have had problems with, no issues over here. I'm VERY happy with the 8800.

Black Bart
06-11-2007, 06:26 PM
my girlfriend got a new faceplate on her 8800 today. its a much better way to go.

ceehjayem
06-11-2007, 09:51 PM
Pictures of the new faceplate? Do you just go into a T-Mobile store and request for it?

precision80
06-14-2007, 11:43 AM
how did she get the new faceplate? whats new about it?

Runamuck
06-14-2007, 12:06 PM
my girlfriend got a new faceplate on her 8800 today. its a much better way to go.

Wait, I thought you posted your gf dumped you because you were critical of the 8800's keyboard?

So let's trace your posting history:

1) You met a T-mobile RM at a party and she got you an 8800.
2) Numerous posts about how you hate the 8800, hate the keyboard, etc etc etc
3) Your gf dumped you (the Tmo Regional babe you picked up at a party just before the 8800 was released).
4) You claim your gf got a new "free" faceplate and replacement keypad for the 8800...which would be a historical event in and of itself....RIM has never done such a thing and I doubt they ever would release a major retro-fit keyboard for a device. They'd just sell thru existing stock and replace it.

I smell something.....and it doesn't smell good, either.

jpfchicago
06-15-2007, 07:43 PM
maybe bart got a new girlfriend

Wait, I thought you posted your gf dumped you because you were critical of the 8800's keyboard?

So let's trace your posting history:

1) You met a T-mobile RM at a party and she got you an 8800.
2) Numerous posts about how you hate the 8800, hate the keyboard, etc etc etc
3) Your gf dumped you (the Tmo Regional babe you picked up at a party just before the 8800 was released).
4) You claim your gf got a new "free" faceplate and replacement keypad for the 8800...which would be a historical event in and of itself....RIM has never done such a thing and I doubt they ever would release a major retro-fit keyboard for a device. They'd just sell thru existing stock and replace it.

I smell something.....and it doesn't smell good, either.

Sydeshow MO
06-17-2007, 01:01 PM
Wow havent posted on this forum in a while! I couldnt get the T-MO 8800 because I used my upgrade for a Dash that the wifey is using (I hated that thing) so I picked up the Cingular version and had it unlocked.

Anyone know the differences from the actual T-MO version just released?

I know all of you talked about Wi-Fi, video, and still camera. Is that it?

TIA,
MO

Galvatron
06-17-2007, 01:13 PM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Well after pay day and bills ill prbably pick one up.

rockymtnway
06-17-2007, 03:39 PM
SydeShow, How did you get Cingular to unlock your phone? I'm hoping to be able to get mine unlocked so I can use different GPS/Navigation software.

Galvatron
06-17-2007, 03:42 PM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Simple you call up customer service tell them you want the device unlocked. As an extra feture or your traveling. You rely them imei an they give you the unlock code an instructions on how to get to the promt to enter the code.

Sydeshow MO
06-18-2007, 02:19 AM
SydeShow, How did you get Cingular to unlock your phone? I'm hoping to be able to get mine unlocked so I can use different GPS/Navigation software.

Galvatron is right about having your carrier do it. Im not a Cingular/ATT customer so what I do is take it to a local shop and they onlock all my phones. So far they have done a Sidekick 2, 3, BB7100, BB8800, Moto RAZR, KRAZR, and a couple freebie Nokia's.

My Cingular BB8800 so far has been running good on the T-MO network. I havent really put it up tp much of a task as some of you on here would. My main concern is email and phone. I love Telenav BTW :razz:

I didnt even know it had GPS!!! What would be cool is to use the GPS on the golf course so I know how far I am form the hole.

rockymtnway
06-18-2007, 05:48 PM
The store I bought it from says they won't unlock any phones they sell. Even when I explained that if they wouldn't unlock it I'd likely return it because I wasn't able to run software I purchased the phone to use (I'm still within 30 days, thus, no early termination fees). They told me that I would have to do whatever I would have to do.

I'll try the 800 number tonight, but I'm not optimistic at this stage. Just curious how you buy an unlocked phone in the first place?

Runamuck
06-18-2007, 05:57 PM
maybe bart got a new girlfriend

Maybe the moon is made outta green cheese.

Bart is a troll...there is no replacement faceplate for the 8800 available from Tmo, and certainly no replacement keyboard for same. Bart is making crap up and just posting inane tidbits of fabrication.

rmktech
06-18-2007, 10:47 PM
Hello all, any one get the 8800 with TMO modem to work with DUN? I had the Pearl and that worked fine, I need to get the BT to work with my laptop for the internet..

Ron K/
8100 tmo
8800 tmo
Rzr3 cing

Sydeshow MO
06-19-2007, 12:14 AM
The store I bought it from says they won't unlock any phones they sell. Even when I explained that if they wouldn't unlock it I'd likely return it because I wasn't able to run software I purchased the phone to use (I'm still within 30 days, thus, no early termination fees). They told me that I would have to do whatever I would have to do.

I'll try the 800 number tonight, but I'm not optimistic at this stage. Just curious how you buy an unlocked phone in the first place?

Who cares about what that mom and pops place says. If you have 30 days, you have 30 days. They lose $$$ when service is terminated within that time.

I bet once you get locked into the 2 year contract after the 30 days, they wont have a problem unlocking it.

BTW... most mom and pops shops do unlocking nowadays. Some of the smart phones and PDA's are harder to do so you will find a handfull that can unlock it. It took my guy 2 weeks to unlock my daughters Sidekick 3. Maybe it was BS but he said the phone was so new (back then) that it took a bit longer.

Good luck!

jpfchicago
07-09-2007, 04:01 PM
i NOTICED TODAY THAT THE LEATHER CARRYING CASE WHICH CAME WITH MY 8800 FROM T-MOBILE, IS COMING APART AT THE SEAMS. i EXAMINED IT CLOSELY. iT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE WELL BUILT. aNYONE ELSE WITH THIS PROBLEM??

theBorg
07-09-2007, 04:45 PM
i NOTICED TODAY THAT THE LEATHER CARRYING CASE [...]

shhh. not so loud.

slick316
07-10-2007, 01:30 AM
Okay, I got one of those dumb, asked a million times already, questions. Does the T-Mo 8800 do GPS?

I made a huge mistake, and bought a T-Mo Wing (made by HTC). I don't like it, and want to give it back and get an 8800 (long story short, a friend accidentally broke my 8700g).
I'm getting the 8800 regardless, just wondering whats up with the GPS.

John Clark
07-10-2007, 01:34 AM
Okay, I got one of those dumb, asked a million times already, questions. Does the T-Mo 8800 do GPS?

I made a huge mistake, and bought a T-Mo Wing (made by HTC). I don't like it, and want to give it back and get an 8800 (long story short, a friend accidentally broke my 8700g).
I'm getting the 8800 regardless, just wondering whats up with the GPS.


Yes, the TMo 8800 does GPS.

...100,000,001... :-)

Galvatron
07-10-2007, 06:46 AM
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It dose I'm getting on this afternoon. It shos up in the homscreen as another browser icon an you have to find satilites to set it up but yeah it has gps

jpfchicago
08-04-2007, 02:25 PM
Does anyone know why TMO pulled the 8800?

Galvatron
08-04-2007, 03:04 PM
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Why you want one?

theBorg
08-04-2007, 10:31 PM
Does anyone know why TMO pulled the 8800?

It's not pulled. It was only taken off of upgrades. No discount to upgrade to it.

This all started by a Boy Genius or BlackBerry Cool rumor which doesn't seem to be true.

hf1khal
08-04-2007, 10:37 PM
It's not pulled. It was only taken off of upgrades. No discount to upgrade to it.

This all started by a Boy Genius or BlackBerry Cool rumor which doesn't seem to be true.
It is still on teh web site: Unsupported Browser (http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Detail.aspx?device=b7240caa-3ba4-4422-b49f-fc2e2d264d11)

LunkHead
08-04-2007, 10:38 PM
It is available for new contracts only not upgrades

Kris

Black Bart
08-17-2007, 08:03 PM
I still think the keyboard is too small. This is after I installed the new faceplate.

Loki Power
08-19-2007, 11:25 PM
Maybe a Noob question, maybe down right crazy, but here goes. I have an 8800 that I bought unlocked from AT&T. Everything appears to be working fine with T-Mobile, (I had to make a few changes with the Access Points) but all in all it seems to be fine. My question is this, is there a way to replace the OS (currently AT&T's) to that of T-Mobile's? Heck, is it even worth it if you can? I would just feel more comfortable if the Blackberry was in fact "T-Mobile's". Given my feelings now, if I had to do it over again, I would have not bought an AT&T version, but I also bought my wife an 8300 and so far no big problems....
Thanks for your help.

John Clark
08-19-2007, 11:34 PM
Welcome to the forums, Loki.
You can put any OS you want on it from any carrier (as long as it's for the 8800.) All that is different are the version numbers and incremental bug fixes. You can't ever make it "TMobile's" BB. Once it's branded to AT&T it's always an AT&T phone.

Loki Power
08-20-2007, 05:43 PM
Forgot to say thank you for your reply. If I can not get rid of the AT&T stuff, then I really do not see a reason to change the OS, I'll just have to deal with the fact. Thank you for your time.

dopestar
08-21-2007, 07:14 PM
is it me but my 8800 tends to run slow when choosing different applications. I have to remove the battery so it can reboot. After doing I have no problem running the 8800? I am pretty sure someone posted this issue but since ATT n Verizon folks been folding the 88XX forum it is hard to browse through and find TMO 8800 issues:idea: :bb:

Galvatron
08-21-2007, 07:23 PM
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What apps are you trying to run?

dopestar
08-21-2007, 07:48 PM
its just in general .. browsing through the icon , selecting an application etc...

Galvatron
08-21-2007, 08:30 PM
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Which version of the Os are you running I'm running the vodaphon version. And I have over 200 contacts. Use eoffice an shatk modem. Mind dosn' run slow.

dopestar
08-21-2007, 08:53 PM
v4.2.1.74

Galvatron
08-21-2007, 08:56 PM
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4.2.1.101

dopestar
08-21-2007, 08:59 PM
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4.2.1.101

y havent u upgraded?

Galvatron
08-21-2007, 09:16 PM
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Techicly I have a newer version than you. Th version you have I preloded wh you get the 8800 from tmo. I have vodaphones version.

theBorg
08-21-2007, 10:52 PM
Gal has a good point. The apps that you commonly have running may have a lot to do with the issue. I notice that after some time having BBToday running, system memory gets clogged. In fact it usually overflows.

I do believe that if you're noticing lag on your 8800, something is awry - that's not the norm.

John Clark
08-21-2007, 11:01 PM
Just having apps loaded on the device, even if they are not running, will slow the device down.

Doyokay
08-22-2007, 02:18 AM
Is there something I am doing wrong, I have been trying to type on this keyboard for the last 2 months and have not gotten any better. Are people able to type without looking at the keyboard or are my expectations too high. This is my only complaint however, the phone is amazing, especially the gps.

Galvatron
08-22-2007, 04:03 AM
this is your first crackberry isn't it? don't worry youll get uset to it i can do it one handed but not without looking.

Doyokay
08-23-2007, 02:17 AM
I actually had a pearl prior, I definitely do not type any faster with the full keyboard. A bit disappointing.

swerveit
08-23-2007, 03:29 AM
sounds like the US gets a raw deal with stock 8800 was first stocket with T-Mobile in the UK before any other network.... I own one on Tmob..

ironbutterfly75
08-23-2007, 11:29 PM
I finally broke my bb so it officially a crackberry:cry: I am thinking to get the 8800 tmo of course but with all the craziness from Tmobile of it not available in the stores and only from the net to new customers I'm angry.

Give me some advice it's been 6 days without my crackberry and I miss it and my clients think I'm on vacation. :(

PS I'm too cheap to buy an unlock BB for 450

John Clark
08-23-2007, 11:49 PM
I saw a couple of Pearls in the Buy/Sell/Trade section of this forum....that might be an option.

Doyokay
08-24-2007, 12:18 AM
I got my 8800 from a local T-Mobile 2 months ago with an extended contract purchase, I guess I was lucky enough that they were one of the rare stocking stores in Socal. Other than the keyboard the phone is amazing.

Black Bart
09-09-2007, 12:21 PM
Has anyone heard a rumor about microsoft acquiring the u.s. operations of t-mobile?
I think it would be a good thing. Get some order in what can at times be great disorder.

LunkHead
09-09-2007, 12:54 PM
Has anyone heard a rumor about microsoft acquiring the u.s. operations of t-mobile?
I think it would be a good thing. Get some order in what can at times be great disorder.
Anything Microsoft touches turns into a monopoly and a disaster... If such a thing were to ever happen, they'd run it into the ground....

BryanHarig
09-09-2007, 02:08 PM
Has anyone heard a rumor about microsoft acquiring the u.s. operations of t-mobile?
I think it would be a good thing. Get some order in what can at times be great disorder.

Got some links to back this up? That sounds silly to me, I could just barely believe microsoft launching their own MVNO. Buying an estabilshed brand, no.

Galvatron
09-10-2007, 02:36 AM
i bought my 8800 form an indirect full retail he just orders it from the warehouse

BallHawk3
09-11-2007, 03:29 AM
Well, the local t-mobile store (coorporate of course) never carried the 8800.

jpfchicago
09-17-2007, 07:23 AM
Does anyone know anything about the possible sale of t_Mobile?

rambo47
09-17-2007, 11:26 AM
Lots of rumors, no hard facts. Heck, there's even been a recent rumor about Microsoft buying RIM! And remember, a rumor is not responsible for who believes it.

hf1khal
09-17-2007, 01:10 PM
T Mobile is now buying Suncom

BryanHarig
09-17-2007, 04:25 PM
Should have happened long ago, tmobile needs their network in north and south carolina.

jpfchicago
09-19-2007, 09:07 PM
I just wish they would spend somemoney on upgrading the speed of their service. This EDGE system is wanting.

Nerd
09-21-2007, 12:48 PM
8800 on the T-Mobile website has been showing "out of stock" for quite some time now.. in addition to not showing up for upgrades. This is similar to when the Sidekick 2 showed as Out Of Stock for a month or so before the 3 came out. I have a feeling an upgraded version will be released on Monday alongside the Curve.

NW Highlander
09-21-2007, 02:31 PM
Is there an upgrade OS for the t-mobile BB8800? I have the OS 4.2.1.74 currently.

Thanks for the help :)

John Clark
09-21-2007, 02:49 PM
Yes. Check the sticky for the latest OS in the 8800 forum. The latest is 4.2.1.103.

qPs1
09-24-2007, 09:32 AM
Is anyone running an unlocked 8820 on T-Mobile yet? Just trying to see if the Wi-Fi still works fine along with GPS

theBorg
09-24-2007, 11:02 AM
Is anyone running an unlocked 8820 on T-Mobile yet? Just trying to see if the Wi-Fi still works fine along with GPS

This would be a brilliant subject for a new, dedicated thread.

idealist
09-24-2007, 07:45 PM
From a conversation today with a TMO rep (of course they dont know too much, but...) they will not be carrying the 8800 any longer due to poor quality and performance.

I personally have sent back 4 8800's, one even before I could send the other out. I thought it was a certain batch or wharehouse or it was a refurb (it wasnt) or something to help me explain why all of the phones were a piece of crap.

The earpeice is a constant problem, I don't like to use the BT headset unless I am driving due to constant drops from the OS and when I plug in the OEM headset the ring surrounding the jack on the BB breaks of in tiny peices. They are sending me a curve as a replacement but IMO I think I will go back to the 8700, it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles but quality beats cosmetic anyday for me.

I will be selling my 8800 in the BuySellTrade section, I hope the curve does better than the 8800.

jpfchicago
09-25-2007, 09:28 PM
From a conversation today with a TMO rep (of course they dont know too much, but...) they will not be carrying the 8800 any longer due to poor quality and performance.

I personally have sent back 4 8800's, one even before I could send the other out. I thought it was a certain batch or wharehouse or it was a refurb (it wasnt) or something to help me explain why all of the phones were a piece of crap.

The earpeice is a constant problem, I don't like to use the BT headset unless I am driving due to constant drops from the OS and when I plug in the OEM headset the ring surrounding the jack on the BB breaks of in tiny peices. They are sending me a curve as a replacement but IMO I think I will go back to the 8700, it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles but quality beats cosmetic anyday for me.

I will be selling my 8800 in the BuySellTrade section, I hope the curve does better than the 8800.

I thought the keyboard was very poorly designed. Besides that, everything worked for me but I think I may have been the exception.

Black Bart
10-09-2007, 09:28 PM
The 8800 was junk. A good idea, brought to market half baked. It was so bad they had to take it off the market after 3 mths.

jpfchicago
10-22-2007, 02:39 PM
The 8800 was junk. A good idea, brought to market half baked. It was so bad they had to take it off the market after 3 mths.

I dont think I would go that far. I still have mine and have had no problems except for the small keyboard.

BallHawk3
10-22-2007, 03:13 PM
the 8800 garbage, and pulled off the shelves cause of poor performance?

I really dunno about that. Matter of fact, the nearest coorporate stores have NEVER carried the 8800, no working displays, not even a dummy phone. Never.

Strange.

Fireproof
10-23-2007, 11:51 AM
I'm upgrading from 8700 to 8800. Just ordered mine last week through my company. Should be here soon.

Not sure what all the issues have been, but it's available on TMO site now (http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Detail.aspx?device=b7240caa-3ba4-4422-b49f-fc2e2d264d11).

Black Bart
11-11-2007, 11:57 PM
I'm upgrading from 8700 to 8800. Just ordered mine last week through my company. Should be here soon.

Not sure what all the issues have been, but it's available on TMO site now (http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Detail.aspx?device=b7240caa-3ba4-4422-b49f-fc2e2d264d11).

How do you like it? came frome a different batch. They got the bugs out.

Fireproof
11-16-2007, 11:34 PM
How do you like it? came frome a different batch. They got the bugs out.

Love it. Haven't had a single problem with it. Embedded GPS rocks. Keys are nice. Lovin' the trackball. Two thumbs up. :smile:

jpfchicago
11-25-2007, 08:44 PM
The trackball is nice. I used a 7100 over the weekend and almost couldnt use it. I hope they dont get rid of the trackball.

mocmylov
11-26-2007, 01:16 AM
The only issues I have with these blackberrys now is that the volume buttons are used exclusively for volume... I'd like if they had them functions as a scroll buttons when a volume button is not needed... I miss the trackwheel sometimes...

Black Bart
12-12-2007, 10:12 PM
The only issues I have with these blackberrys now is that the volume buttons are used exclusively for volume... I'd like if they had them functions as a scroll buttons when a volume button is not needed... I miss the trackwheel sometimes...

idont miss the track wheel at all. i dont think i could go back after getting used to the track ball.

TeritaM
12-12-2007, 10:44 PM
I wish I had more hands so I could give this phone more thumbs up...my 8800 aka my boyfriend berry is the best phone I've ever used. hands down.

jpfchicago
12-26-2007, 05:58 PM
Does anyone know? does t-mobile still carry the 8800 in stock? I think I have to take mine in for a mechanical malfunction.

rambo47
12-26-2007, 07:18 PM
The 8800 is back on T-Mobile's web site and shows available now. It was gone for a while, and conspiracy theories abound as to why, but it's back now and is the most expensive BB they list.

Black Bart
12-28-2007, 09:40 PM
The 8800 is back on T-Mobile's web site and shows available now. It was gone for a while, and conspiracy theories abound as to why, but it's back now and is the most expensive BB they list.

That is so weird. Why would they take it off the market only to put it back on? Bugs??

rambo47
12-28-2007, 10:04 PM
I think it was either a supply disruption from RIM (ramping up production of the 8820 and 8830) or T-Mobile wanted to push their new H@<hidden> WiFi service and thought it best to feature the 8320 and Pearl, omitting the 8800 during the lead in to H@<hidden> and initial rollout.

Black Bart
01-12-2008, 10:08 PM
I think it was either a supply disruption from RIM (ramping up production of the 8820 and 8830) or T-Mobile wanted to push their new H@<hidden> WiFi service and thought it best to feature the 8320 and Pearl, omitting the 8800 during the lead in to H@<hidden> and initial rollout.

I wonder if the latter possible reason is ethical.

Sith_Apprentice
01-12-2008, 10:16 PM
i still love the 88xx series, greatest battery life of any device ive had. i mean 8800 with 27 days standby, thats just awesome lol

Black Bart
01-22-2008, 05:46 PM
i still love the 88xx series, greatest battery life of any device ive had. i mean 8800 with 27 days standby, thats just awesome lol

You are right, the battery life is that good.

Black Bart
01-31-2008, 07:35 PM
Any truth to the rumor that RIM is giving out new faceplates for the 8800.

rambo47
01-31-2008, 08:48 PM
That, I have not heard. Mine is working flawlessly, and the quality of the build is the best of all the Blackberrys I've ever owned. It has the best feel in my hand of any I've used as well.

Pulling it off the line during the H@<hidden> rollout is certainly the prerogative of T-Mobile, and they could site numerous reasons why it would make sense. Like avoiding the confusion with consumers over which model works with WiFi. Yeah, it would be a lame reason and I wouldn't swallow it, but I've heard dumb corporate moves explained even more lamely before. I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it unethical, but it's definitely a little on the fuggazey side. :smile:

Having quality control problems would certainly fit with it disappearing and reappearing later. Iron out the kinks in production. It would also fit that they'd want to keep something like that under their hat. I just think we'd have heard more griping about it in the 8800 forum. Still, it's a strong possibility.

NW Highlander
02-03-2008, 07:35 AM
I have had my BB8800 since August (07). Got it from TMO and I love it. My children went together and bought it for me for my early birthday present. I have not found anything wrong with it. It works great, really!

Black Bart
04-14-2008, 09:37 PM
I am looking at a box of what I think are faceplates for the 8800.

Black Bart
07-17-2008, 03:23 PM
Good bye 8800, hello 9000

nike30
07-17-2008, 03:31 PM
Good bye 8800, hello 9000

U must be jumpin' carriers. I don't see the 9000 hitting t-mobile before 2015.(n)

Helios26
07-19-2008, 01:29 AM
I love my BB8820! It's not exactly 8800 but same thing plus wifi.

Also, I think the closest thing BB9000 T-mobile is going to get is the javelin.

bigdaddyjoe1
07-29-2008, 10:35 PM
can some one help me please i am trying to reformat my memory card but i am new to the blackberry fam and i don't know how can some one please help me...

hf1khal
07-30-2008, 12:21 AM
can some one help me please i am trying to reformat my memory card but i am new to the blackberry fam and i don't know how can some one please help me...

Go to options, Advanced, Media card, press teh menu key (on left of the track ball) and select format card.

dopestar
07-31-2008, 08:12 PM
can some one help me please i am trying to reformat my memory card but i am new to the blackberry fam and i don't know how can some one please help me...

welcome 2 the 8800 fam ;-)

bigdaddyjoe1
08-03-2008, 03:04 PM
hey all whats up

Nchex
08-05-2008, 04:58 AM
I Love My BB 8800

jpfchicago
10-08-2008, 06:09 PM
my 8800 has died after 16 months of service. (Trackball failure). Long live the 8800. I replaced it with a Curve which is nice but it just doesnt compare to the look and feel of the 8800.

dopestar
10-08-2008, 06:12 PM
my 8800 has died after 16 months of service. (Trackball failure). Long live the 8800. I replaced it with a Curve which is nice but it just doesnt compare to the look and feel of the 8800.the curve on tmobile is hideous.. i like the white one from verizon... why didnt wait for the G1 phone?

jpfchicago
03-20-2009, 11:49 AM
I gave my 8800 to my son, he replaced the trackball in 2 minutes and its like brand new. Great for a teenager.

david9962000
03-20-2009, 06:16 PM
I like the 8820, it has Wi-Fi and GPS, great wide keyboard but it's a little big.