Is the Blackberry 8800 3G?

[Cartell]

Is the Blackberry 8800 3G?

[Pizzle]

Nope.

[mymitsu3kgt]

You could only dream.

[mgerbasio]

I couldn't care less about the device being so thin than I do about it being 3g. It is a big disappointment that they didn't do 3g with this device.

Regards-Michael G.

[NJBlackBerry]

Given that there are no 3G GSM based devices rolled out in the US, why WOULD they have made it 3G?

[NJBlackBerry]

Given that there are no 3G GSM based devices rolled out nationally in the US, why WOULD they have made it 3G?

[brucejr]

I thought it was going to be 4F??:razz:

[archer6]

I have a Samsung _3G_ A707 and a new Motorola _3.5G_ RAZR V3xx. These are a true joy to use when accessing information off the Mobile Web. The speed at which pages load is significantly faster. Cingular has done a great job of building the network. It's available in all major US markets & will be complete soon. Then it will be quite easy for them to uprade it to 3.5G whenever the US customers demand the increased speed.

It would be nice to see RIM join in on emerging technologies.

Cheers...:)

[backbeat]

Is the Blackberry 8800 3G?

Just curious, but how on a Blackberry platform would it make any difference in your daily use? Just dying to download your favorite 150-page PDF'd Users Manual and save it to your microSD? Oops! Can't do that either. My bad. :smile:

[bcaslis]

Huh? Cingular Blackjack, 8525, and Treo 750 are all 3G. The Treo and 8525 are also tri-mode UMTS so they will work with Cingular and Europe/Asia also in 3G.

Given that there are no 3G GSM based devices rolled out nationally in the US, why WOULD they have made it 3G?

[bcaslis]

3G makes a world of difference if you use the phone as wireless modem for your laptop. It certainly helps if you do alot of web browsing with it also.

Just curious, but how on a Blackberry platform would it make any difference in your daily use? Just dying to download your favorite 150-page PDF'd Users Manual and save it to your microSD? Oops! Can't do that either. My bad. :smile:

[NJBlackBerry]

I live in the world of GSM. Neither T-Mobile nor Cingular have rolled out a 3G network nationally yet. I have a Verizon aircard; I fully appreciate the EVDO speeds.

[mgerbasio]

Nationally, maybe not as my world ends outside of the NYC metro area ;)

But Cingular claims to have launched 3G in 170 cities including 75 of the top 100 markets. I'd guess that can cover a significant portion of it's subscriber base. I'm also on 3G for data having switched from Verizon to Cingular a few months ago.

Regards-Michael G.

[backbeat]

3G makes a world of difference if you use the phone as wireless modem for your laptop.

True enough, if your carrier supports and encourages the use of such features. But again, there are other options readily available for laptop modem use.

It certainly helps if you do alot of web browsing with it also.

And therein lies the divergence between Consumer and Professional use.

In addition, without a processor twice as fast as the current 312mhz, rendering all those web pages creates a bottleneck at the device level, regardless of 3/3.5G network.

[bcaslis]

Every carrier has tethering options. It depends on whether you pay it or not. I would argue that their tethering prices are ridiculous for an EDGE device, but aren't too bad for 3G.

I guess if you browse the web you aren't a professional? Funny, I guess that engineering degree of mine and 20 years of experience don't count.

True enough, if your carrier supports and encourages the use of such features. But again, there are other options readily available for laptop modem use.



And therein lies the divergence between Consumer and Professional use.

In addition, without a processor twice as fast as the current 312mhz, rendering all those web pages creates a bottleneck at the device level, regardless of 3/3.5G network.

[mgerbasio]

I use the web browser frequently to check my voicemail. I can see call logs and who left a message, listen to messages and delete message on the browser. I do this far more frequently than listening to my messages with my phone. Other typcial uses during the day for data, Google Maps, news, weather and I'm now trying TeleNav. I'm sure TeleNav would benefit from having voice separate from data and faster downloads.

I use all this during normal working hours and don't typically have my BB with me (use Samsung A707 with my 3G service) when I'm not working.

[backbeat]

Every carrier has tethering options. It depends on whether you pay it or not.
Many, many individuals don't pay for it, which is why carriers are notorious for red-flagging accounts for abuse since it violates their TOS.

I guess if you browse the web you aren't a professional? Funny, I guess that engineering degree of mine and 20 years of experience don't count.
Let's be clear here. This is what I was responding to:
It certainly helps if you do alot of web browsing with it also.
I'd go blind if I had to use this tiny screen all the time to access the web. It gets used, certainly, but only as necessary on a daily basis. Other data-based needs could benefit from 3G but they don't necessarily require the use of browsing the web.

[Outrigger]

I live in the world of GSM. Neither T-Mobile nor Cingular have rolled out a 3G network nationally yet. I have a Verizon aircard; I fully appreciate the EVDO speeds.

I'm a little confused, I know that Tmo has not rolled out 3G as of yet, but Cingular certainly has. The coverage is not as abudant as EVDO from VZW or Sprint, but it certainly is available nationally.

[Helno]

It seems to me that Cingular/AT&T is busting butt to get 3G out there. My wife just bought a Samsung Sync Phone and it's getting a 3G service here in Athens, Ohio - which is not exactly a booming metro area like Columbus, Cleveland, or Cincinnati would be considered. Just my $0.02

[takeshi]

I couldn't care less about the device being so thin than I do about it being 3g. It is a big disappointment that they didn't do 3g with this device.
You'd be really disappointed if they had included 3G. The BB's ability to render pages is a real bottleneck making 3G a moot point at the moment unless you're tethering.

[dropscience]

8707v is 3G i think.

[MaxT32]

Cingular 8800c will be 3G by years end. Thats what rep told me.

[archer6]

Cingular 8800c will be 3G by years end. Thats what rep told me.

Very interesting, as that's what my rep told me about 15 minutes ago. He said they were shooting for November this year.

Cheers..

[backbeat]

^ Not without a hardware implant.

[IamtheMp3God]

Not true... Cingular 8525 is HSDPA, or 3g as you are calling it.

[IamtheMp3God]

They are more focused on HSDPA which will get faster speeds, but the main feature is if you are on the phone you can get data (ie. email.)

[backbeat]

Not true... Cingular 8525 is HSDPA, or 3g as you are calling it.

The 8800 has no UMTS radio, therefore HSDPA is not an option.