blackberry calendar for BIS users

[carl rifkind]

Would it be amazing if RIM would let us poor BIS users be able to manage our blackberry's calendar from within the BIS website?

Picture something similar to Google Calendar where BIS users could access a page on the BIS site to view, add, remove appointments!!

Wouldn't that be cool?

Post your thoughts here...

[x14]

Every email provider implement contacts and calendar differently it would be impossible for RIM to synchronize with mail system out there. Unless Google is going to pay RIM for the R&D to interface with GMail calendar and contact sync is not going to happen.

Even with BES there's a version for MS Exchange, IBM Domino, and Novell Groupwise.

[akosnitzky]

X14,
I agree with you but it would be interesting if there was a RIM calendar that reconciled wirelessly with bb for the BIS user.

Google hasn't figured it out yet.

[kgn1224]

Wouldn't it be great if RIM offered BES or ablility to synchronize similar to Google?(for an additional fee)

[rsnadel]

Would it be amazing if RIM would let us poor BIS users be able to manage our blackberry's calendar from within the BIS website?

Picture something similar to Google Calendar where BIS users could access a page on the BIS site to view, add, remove appointments!!

Wouldn't that be cool?

Post your thoughts here...

Seems to me that Blackberry's move from BIS 1.8 to BIS v2 had the specific goal of getting RIM out of the storage business instead of further in to the business of maintaining an individual's files on THEIR equipment. I'd rather them focus on improving communication capabilities rather than looking for ways to tether us to their sites. But that's just me.

[ArgonNJ]

Every email provider implement contacts and calendar differently it would be impossible for RIM to synchronize with mail system out there. Unless Google is going to pay RIM for the R&D to interface with GMail calendar and contact sync is not going to happen.

Even with BES there's a version for MS Exchange, IBM Domino, and Novell Groupwise.

Well if they did, my money would be on Google. We already have instant delivery with gmail. The other big webmail providers are crap compared to gmail.

[takeshi]

Wouldn't that be cool?

Sure -- but why not go for full BES functionality for free while you're daydreaming? ;-)

[penguin3107]

IMO, this isn't an unreasonable request.
Actually, I believe wireless PIM sync for BIS users is coming pretty soon. Maybe BIS 2.4, or 3.0, or whatever the next major release is. I think you'll see wireless calendar/contacts sync with Google and/or Yahoo.

[Dawg]

IMO, this isn't an unreasonable request.
Actually, I believe wireless PIM sync for BIS users is coming pretty soon. Maybe BIS 2.4, or 3.0, or whatever the next major release is. I think you'll see wireless calendar/contacts sync with Google and/or Yahoo.

I agree with you on this one I believe its coming as well..

[carl rifkind]

I wish it were here already...but who doesn't.
Finally giving BIS users the ability to wirelessly sync their calendar would be amazing.

[nuopus]

Every email provider implement contacts and calendar differently it would be impossible for RIM to synchronize with mail system out there. Unless Google is going to pay RIM for the R&D to interface with GMail calendar and contact sync is not going to happen.

Even with BES there's a version for MS Exchange, IBM Domino, and Novell Groupwise.

Why not read his message? He never said he wanted to sync with gmail. He asked if it would be cool if they (RIM) implemented a web based calendaring system SIMILAR to Google Calendar. I personally think it would be cool if they created their own web based calendaring service LIKE Google Calendar. And again, that has absolutely NOTHING to do with syncing, it just means a service LIKE it.

[pnd4pnd]

Well if they did, my money would be on Google. We already have instant delivery with gmail. The other big webmail providers are crap compared to gmail.

Yahoo mail is crap? I can't stand the gmail interface. Broad statements like that dampen your credibility. maybe if you said IMHO but come on way more people use yahoo than gmail.

[penguin3107]

Yahoo mail is crap? I can't stand the gmail interface. Broad statements like that dampen your credibility. maybe if you said IMHO but come on way more people use yahoo than gmail.

IMHO, Yahoo web mail is complete crap compared to GMail.
Just because more people use may use Yahoo... that doesn't automatically make it "better".
It's all a matter of personal preference.

Was that response OK with you? ;)

[ArgonNJ]

Yahoo mail is crap? I can't stand the gmail interface. Broad statements like that dampen your credibility. maybe if you said IMHO but come on way more people use yahoo than gmail.

Sorry I offended you, but we are all adults here and I don't like to mix words. I have used both and I don't think emulating Outlook is something Yahoo ought to be doing. The gmail interface is much more intuitive and the only reason Yahoo has more users is they have been around longer with their mail.

[nuopus]

Yahoo mail is crap? I can't stand the gmail interface. Broad statements like that dampen your credibility. maybe if you said IMHO but come on way more people use yahoo than gmail.

I don't know about the numbers. Gmail has gotten EXTREMELY popular. I teach at a local college here, and absolutely EVERYONE except for a few stragglers has a Gmail account they check on a regular basis. Even the new students for the most part list their email address coming from a gmail domain. Some of them have Yahoo ... sure. But an overwhelming majority have gmail.

Based on what I see ... student rosters and registers of new students after I complete a seminar, I have a hard time believing the claim that Yahoo is more popular, when most people are using Gmail accounts. And I see lots of perspective students.

But, Im not going to go as far as say that Yahoo is complete crap. My parents use it ... and I happen to think that Yahoo is a good email service if you pay to get their crap advertising removed from your emails you send through them. People have their own opinions, and there is nothing wrong with Yahoo per se. I just happen to think ... Im my own humble opinion, that gmail is better.

[nuopus]

Sorry I offended you, but we are all adults here and I don't like to mix words. I have used both and I don't think emulating Outlook is something Yahoo ought to be doing. The gmail interface is much more intuitive and the only reason Yahoo has more users is they have been around longer with their mail.

I personally hate their new interface that tries to emulate a piece of desktop software. It is extremely un-necessary in my opinion. Gmail is popular because they have a nice, simple, streamlined, and intuitive interface. Not some over bloated interface that tries to mimic desktop email clients.

And if that offends you, I must remind you that all of the above was my personal opinion. Yours may differ, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. LOL

[AlexKidd]

gMail reserves the right to keep your e-mail and do whatever they want with it - their intentions are to target advertising to you, however can be used for surveillance. Big services like Yahoo have been providing government agencies and God only knows who else with copies of people's e-mail correspondence without even a little fight. While I'm not doing anything illegal, I never want to support any business that decides that my privacy is unimportant and not worth a fight.

I'll keep all of my e-mail on my personal domains on my own server, thank you very much. If you want to read my e-mail, you'll have to install an Ethernet packet sniffer. If I couldn't afford the server at my datacenter, then I would be paying for hosting at a datacenter somewhere, not on a big domain like Yahoo or gMail - I might as well be CC'ing everyone@<hidden>

--Kidd

[ArgonNJ]

gMail reserves the right to keep your e-mail and do whatever they want with it - their intentions are to target advertising to you, however can be used for surveillance. Big services like Yahoo have been providing government agencies and God only knows who else with copies of people's e-mail correspondence without even a little fight. While I'm not doing anything illegal, I never want to support any business that decides that my privacy is unimportant and not worth a fight.

I'll keep all of my e-mail on my personal domains on my own server, thank you very much. If you want to read my e-mail, you'll have to install an Ethernet packet sniffer. If I couldn't afford the server at my datacenter, then I would be paying for hosting at a datacenter somewhere, not on a big domain like Yahoo or gMail - I might as well be CC'ing everyone@<hidden>

--Kidd

Considering most of my gmail is forwarded jokes and off color pictures, I hope the government is reading. Hope they get a good laugh.

If the government wants your email, its going to get it, whether you are using gmail, yahoo, comcast, whatever. Unless you have your own email server in your basement, set to self destruct at the touch of a button, your email is with in reach of Uncle Sam. Deal with it.

[pnd4pnd]

I personally hate their new interface that tries to emulate a piece of desktop software. It is extremely un-necessary in my opinion. Gmail is popular because they have a nice, simple, streamlined, and intuitive interface. Not some over bloated interface that tries to mimic desktop email clients.

And if that offends you, I must remind you that all of the above was my personal opinion. Yours may differ, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. LOL

just fyi, the old interface is still available and that's what i use. if they ever remove that i would have to reevaluate as i don't like the outlook view either. it's much too slow - imho :)

eric

[nuopus]

just fyi, the old interface is still available and that's what i use. if they ever remove that i would have to reevaluate as i don't like the outlook view either. it's much too slow - imho :)

eric

I know. That is the only one that works properly with BIS. If you have the new interface the reconciliation is one way ... so I have it on the old interface. For me though, its still too busy .... thats why I like gmail personally.

[akosnitzky]

I like the g-mail. I could just never get used to the threads.

[daphne]

gMail reserves the right to keep your e-mail and do whatever they want with it - their intentions are to target advertising to you, however can be used for surveillance. Big services like Yahoo have been providing government agencies and God only knows who else with copies of people's e-mail correspondence without even a little fight. While I'm not doing anything illegal, I never want to support any business that decides that my privacy is unimportant and not worth a fight.

I'll keep all of my e-mail on my personal domains on my own server, thank you very much. If you want to read my e-mail, you'll have to install an Ethernet packet sniffer. If I couldn't afford the server at my datacenter, then I would be paying for hosting at a datacenter somewhere, not on a big domain like Yahoo or gMail - I might as well be CC'ing everyone@<hidden>

--Kidd

I'm with you on that. The only thing I use my Yahoo email for is Google news alerts and subscriptions to junk that I don't want going in my personal emails.

[AlexKidd]

I'm with you on that. The only thing I use my Yahoo email for is Google news alerts and subscriptions to junk that I don't want going in my personal emails.

That is precisely why I have addresses on yahoo and gmail. They are strictly used for testing, and when I don't feel like giving my real address to some new website that I want to try out before commiting to staying a member, or for some knid of promo deal. :)

--Kidd

[ArgonNJ]

That is precisely why I have addresses on yahoo and gmail. They are strictly used for testing, and when I don't feel like giving my real address to some new website that I want to try out before commiting to staying a member, or for some knid of promo deal. :)

--Kidd

That is what I use the absolutely worse webmail (hotmail) for. I call it my junk email address. Online shopping, porn and websites that make you register go there.

[jonabyte]

Why not read his message? He never said he wanted to sync with gmail. He asked if it would be cool if they (RIM) implemented a web based calendaring system SIMILAR to Google Calendar. I personally think it would be cool if they created their own web based calendaring service LIKE Google Calendar. And again, that has absolutely NOTHING to do with syncing, it just means a service LIKE it.

RIM went to bis 2.x to get away from storing emails on their servers. I think implementing a web calendar is a step backwards in their minds as they will need to store more user data, syncing or not.

[tobyw]

I would love the ability to over-the-air sync a calendar using BIS. However, I wonder if RIM would want to risk eroding the BES market for smaller businesses that aren't so worried about security and the other advantages of BES, but love the ability of over-the-air calendar/contacts/tasks reconciliation.

In my mind, a more pressing need for BIS is to upgrade some of the e-mail functionality, particularly with Windows Mobile features in mind. In particular, I am thinking of the ability to file e-mails in folders, full reconciliation of read/unread status of messages and deletion of messages mailbox-->handheld a little bit quicker than it currently happens with the BIS/OWA combo.

[Jhhart]

I am new here and to Blackberry's in general. But I do remember reading some with in this forum of Hosts for BES service at about 10 bucks a month. Why not just sign up with one of them? From what I recall it is calendar, email, tasks, files etc.

Just a thought?

[tobyw]

It's a good suggestion, and I would pay for it monthly in an instant. The problem (for me - I don't know about others) is that I already have two accounts on Exchange servers of organisations that I am associated with. I therefore wouldn't be able to use hosted BES apart from for personal stuff.

However, even though I would happily pay (if I could) many coming to BB from WM may not feel the same way, which is why I feel that RIM needs to give BIS an overhaul to some degree. Unite! might be a useful weapon in RIM's armoury here, but I've been unable to find much info about how it actually works (as opposed to the nice shots of the features on RIM site). In particular, I'm interested whether it's a stand-alone server or integrates with existing PIMs.

[DaBlackberryBoy]

For those interested in OTA WITH bis - http://www.blackberryforums.com/aftermarket-software/106646-ota-full-outlook-sync-needs-beta-testers-bis-users.html

The thread has been out for a while, thought I would share

[rivviepop]

Regarding the *non* Outlook people asking about a web calendar, I've been using a web calendar for years and syncing it OTA to my devices (with the BB, over BIS). Start here:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/linux-users-corner/65712-how-sync-bb-if-you-use-linux-unix.html

The concept is identical to the thread DaBlackberryBoy linked, but differs in the tools used and such (i.e. non Outlook in nature). Both accomplish a goal to fill a need, just depends on your need. :)

[Jhhart]

I have read information about Blackberry Unite! and it is exactly what I want for my wife and I. From what I have read it sounds great for small groups (very small) in that it will only support up to 5 Blackberrys but keep in mind it is FREE. Not only Calendar sharing and syncing but also photos and lots more. Here were I read this at.

Please keep in mind I am new to Blackberrys and this forum. So if the site below is not deemed reliable kindly let me know.

blackberrycool.com/2007/10/29/005927/

[dfault312]

this is an old thread, so maybe someone already mentioned this in another thread, but i thought i'd add it here... I use SyncJe and GooSync.com to sync my blackberry calendar with Google Calendar. It works perfectly, and I dont even have to think about it. Go to GooSync.com to get set up.