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Old 11-25-2007, 04:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does everytime I upgrade my os, I have to ask the admin to resend the BES activation or is automatic???
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You need to reactivate each time you upgrade the OS.
It's not automatic.
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You need to reactivate each time you upgrade the OS.
It's not automatic.

Ok. So when I upgrade should I not have it restore information since everything is wireless sync? Or should I let it backup the phone and then restore. Or shouldnt?

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It's up to you.
I usually backup & restore.
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It's up to you.
I usually backup & restore.
What are the consequences if I dont restore vs I do?

last upgrade I had two desktops and and wireless sync was intermittent


Lots of questions, but just deciding on updating my software and want it to go smooth. Last time I had to do a complete wipe..... Like lost everything, except contacts and calendar stuff thanks to BES.
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If you have data outside of your email / PIM data you'll probably want to backup / restore ... otherwise you don't need to; the device will resync your email (by default only last 7 days / 250 messages) / pim data during activation.
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If you have data outside of your email / PIM data you'll probably want to backup / restore ... otherwise you don't need to; the device will resync your email (by default only last 7 days / 250 messages) / pim data during activation.
Alright thanks. I sad when i talk to my BES admins I know more than they do and they just give me the blank stare like I speaking kligon when wondering why my phone is not syncing. But I know where to go now.

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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but email messages only get repopulated when you switch devices. If you wipe the device and reactivate on BES you won't get your emails back.

When I upgrade my OS, I always do the backup and restore, then activate. It all happens automatically when I'm connected to DM with an online connection to my exchange account.
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Wirelessly posted (8320: BlackBerry8320/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

So if I just upgraded and reconnect to the dm at work then it should reactivate it right. The lan admins said that dm screws with wireless sync. And recommends I never use it
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I always start EA that way after an upgrade. I've started EA that way many times when troubleshooting a device. And if an EA errors or stops along the way, I just cancel the current sync, delete desktop service books and then plug in to DM again to start EA over again.
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8703e/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

You know you spend too much time in the registry changing RIM defaults when you start thinking they are the defaults. JC is absolutely correct ... I generally have the force prepop reg key enabled so that if someone does this it'll treat them like new. Sorry for the confusion.
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Wirelessly posted (8320: BlackBerry8320/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

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You know you spend too much time in the registry changing RIM defaults when you start thinking they are the defaults. JC is absolutely correct ... I generally have the force prepop reg key enabled so that if someone does this it'll treat them like new. Sorry for the confusion.
What if the admins don't have it setup that way...
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I always start EA that way after an upgrade. I've started EA that way many times when troubleshooting a device. And if an EA errors or stops along the way, I just cancel the current sync, delete desktop service books and then plug in to DM again to start EA over again.
Just to be clear. If I just connect it should it do a activation wirelessly right? Like plug in and then it activates and then I can disconnect it from dm
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Just do the backup and restore, then activate.

Yes, once EA starts you can disconnect from the DM. It will finish wirelessly.
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What if the admins don't have it setup that way...
Then no message prepopulation happens. You only get new messages that arrive after the activation takes place.
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Here's the reghack for force pre-population:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Research In Motion\BlackBerry Enterprise Server\Agents]
"ForceMsgPrepopOnActivation"=dword:00000001
"ForceMsgPrepopDays"=dword:0000000e
"ForceMsgPrepopMessages"=dword:000002ee

The high limits for this hack are 14 days or 750 messages. (in hex in the above entries)

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